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Definitely an odd way to skin a 'cat...
Posted by oortiz10 on Monday, March 15, 2021 8:25 PM

OK FSM, there must be something wrong with me. Seriously. 

The 1/48 B-1 wasn't a big enough challenge, so I decide to kit-bash an AH-1G in 1/48. Around the same time, I take on my first biplane and its rigging. Then I decide to tackle Revellogram's A-10 putty monster...and back date it!. Now, while I'm still working on the Warthog, I decide to take on Academy's pig-ear of an F-14A in 1/48. 

If I ever run into any of you fine people on the street...please slap me.

OK, so this is going to be a special build. I think the F-14 looks its  best in VF-1 or VF-84 markings, but I am not going to waste either of my decal sheets on this kit. I'll save those for the Hasegawa Tomcats I have in my stash. This kit will be wearing special markings, but you'll have to wait and see what I have up my sleeve. Because I'm planning on focusing on the paint, the plastic is just a means to the end. This will be built OOB. I've already made the modification that I need to get my plastic to match my reference. More on that in a moment.

I started with the cockpit and added a small disk that I punched from iridescent plastic  to represent the HUD projector.

The airframe I'm building is based on a few pictures I saw in a book. The airframe is on the ramp undergoing maintenance but is "kneeling." In order to get that same stance with my kit, I stole the lower part of the NLG from one of my Hasegawa kits and grafted it onto the Academy nose gear. I cut up the Academy part and removed the "knob" from the Hasegawa part.

From there it was a simple as drilling up into the Academy part to accept the modified Hase part. In the end, it all worked out perfectly.

OK, so this is where I stand with the Tomcat. I'll be working on my A-10 and F-14 simultaneously. I'll be sure to share my progress as it comes. As usual, comments, questions, and criticims are welcome.

Thanks for looking!

Cheers,

-O

 

-It's Omar, but they call me "O".

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Posted by philo426 on Monday, March 15, 2021 8:45 PM

Looking good!

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, March 15, 2021 11:08 PM

Hmmm sounds like something I do.

Steve

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Posted by jeaton01 on Tuesday, March 16, 2021 12:12 AM

Overload warning, overload warning!Welcome Sign

John

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Posted by crown r n7 on Tuesday, March 16, 2021 7:29 AM

Hmm interesting.

 

 

 Nick.

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Posted by bvallot on Tuesday, March 16, 2021 11:49 AM

Bipolar disorder is a serious problem that needs to be recognized and treated by the health care professional as well as the family. 

;)

 sorry, couldn't do that with a straight face. Carpe diem O!! The more the merrier. Looking good so far. Can you elaborate on what the kneeling is about? I'm not as deep on jet paraphernalia as props. =]

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Posted by HooYah Deep Sea on Tuesday, March 16, 2021 12:48 PM

Oh, it's not bipolar, or even tripolar (I know someone like that!), it's that SoCal water!!

There is something in that stuff. I was like that when I lived in San Diego.

 

But it's good to see your keeping busy .  .  .

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Posted by armornut on Tuesday, March 16, 2021 2:19 PM

    The tomcat "kneels"  to allow the tow link mechanism, the long paet with a wheel looking dewhickey, to engage the catapult shuttle for aircraft carrier operations. It also levels the mount in the back of the gear for a device called a holdback fitting. The fitting is designed to break under a predetemined tention and by doing so allows the shuttle to launch the bird.

    Periodic inspections of all these parts are common both in carrier ops and beach operations.

we're modelers it's what we do

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Posted by oortiz10 on Tuesday, March 16, 2021 2:27 PM

armornut

    The tomcat "kneels"  to allow the tow link mechanism, the long paet with a wheel looking dewhickey, to engage the catapult shuttle for aircraft carrier operations. It also levels the mount in the back of the gear for a device called a holdback fitting. The fitting is designed to break under a predetemined tention and by doing so allows the shuttle to launch the bird...

Yeah, what he said. 

Wink

Here are a couple of photos to demo what armornut's talking about.

Photo of NLG in "normal" position versus photo of "kneeling" Tomcat

Hope this helps!

-O

-It's Omar, but they call me "O".

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, March 16, 2021 3:25 PM

armornut

    The tomcat "kneels"  to allow the tow link mechanism, the long paet with a wheel looking dewhickey, to engage the catapult shuttle for aircraft carrier operations. It also levels the mount in the back of the gear for a device called a holdback fitting. The fitting is designed to break under a predetemined tention and by doing so allows the shuttle to launch the bird.

    Periodic inspections of all these parts are common both in carrier ops and beach operations.

 

Huh?

 

Steve

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Posted by HooYah Deep Sea on Tuesday, March 16, 2021 3:30 PM

.  .  .  and in between the gear socket and the holdback link or pendant, is the dogbone, apart that is designed to break at a predetermined pressure (Aircraft at full power + cat stroke pressure). The dogbones are made for specific aircraft and are color coded to avoid mistakes.

Most holdback setups are on the nose gear but some aircraft, such as the A-4, have it set up at the base of the tailhook. 

I was told once that because of the way they're made, if a dogbone was accidently dropped on the deck, they would fling it over the side (float test) and get another, as the impact with the deck could affect the breaking point. (But that might just be a sea story) 

"Why do I do this? Because the money's good, the scenery changes and they let me use explosives, okay?"

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Tuesday, March 16, 2021 4:29 PM

That's what I was told:

          When I asked about throwing a perfect looking piece of equipment over the side during Plane ops! 

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Posted by armornut on Tuesday, March 16, 2021 10:55 PM

 Can't confirm that story HooYa but it is plaisable given the importance of the device working as designed.

     Modelcrazy, wish I could explain it better, my apologies.

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Posted by goldhammer on Tuesday, March 16, 2021 11:09 PM

Wouldn't surprise me.

Everytime we downloaded an inboard pylon on a Phantom, the one bolt holding it to the wing had to go to NDI for dye testing for cracks before it could be reused.  Fairly normal for 50% to fail the test procedure.

Not worth a life or aircraft if a bone broke early when the bird was under full throttle

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Posted by oortiz10 on Monday, September 5, 2022 4:14 PM

Can you believe it's been 18 months since I last fiddled with this kitty? After realizing what a pain in the rear this kit is, I boxed it up and put it away in the closet. On the highest shelf. Way in the back. Next to my started Monogram A-10.

I have two projects going for the Animalistic GB that are just about at the paint stage, but this SoCal heat has kept me out of the garage where I spray. So, I figured I'd stay inside with the AC and work on something while I wait for the heatwave to break. Like a fool, I pulled out the Tomcat...

I'v been able to get the cockpit closed up, the fuselage halves and intakes assembled, and the nose cone attached.

The upper and lower fuselage halves did not go together easily. Getting things cleaned up resulted in a lot of Academy's soft panel lines being erased.

After the seams were cleaned up, I tried my best at rescribing some of the lost detail.

I know the lines aren't accurate, but I used some of Academy's lines and some "suggested" lines taken from Hasegawa's Tomcat. Again, this is more about the paint, so I'm not terribly worried about accuracy.

My project won't have the working swing-wing mechanism, so I needed to close up the glove vanes. The problem was the opening was way too big for the parts and left gnarly gaps all the way around. I used some styrene sheet to fill the hole then did my best to rescribe an impression of the glove vane. It's not perfect, but I think it will be fine from 3 feet. (Sorry about the focus in the photos.)

So, here are the main assemblies primed and dry-ftted for the sake of the photo.

The primer coat shows me that there is still a lot of work to do to get this kitty nice and smooth. 

Hopefully there'll be a break in this heat soon so I can go out to the garage and splatter some paint before my next update! Until then, feel free to drop your two cents in the bucket. Comments, questions, and criticisms are welcome, as ususal.

Stay tuned!

-O

-It's Omar, but they call me "O".

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Posted by gregbale on Monday, September 5, 2022 4:52 PM

Leaving aside the question of your relative sanity...or lack thereof...there's a considerable degree of satisfaction to be had in 'wrangling' those misbegotten kits into something worthy, shiny and bad-*** looking. Pretty much anybody can make the latest Tamigawa kit look good -- but it takes a true, proud, masochistically-stubborn modeler to make th outcasts into something fierce and respectable. Yes

oortiz10
I think the F-14 looks its  best in VF-1 or VF-84 markings, but I am not going to waste either of my decal sheets on this kit.

I agree completely. Might I suggest the mighty 'Pukin' Dogs' of VF-143 as a possible alternative?

Cheers...and carry on. Geeked

Greg

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"Every time you correct me on my grammar I love you a little fewer."
 
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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Monday, September 5, 2022 4:58 PM

Excuse Me!

          I don't agree with what you said! I think you need to go look in the Mirror! What are you gonna see? A pretty darn Good Model Builder! I like the way you re-scribed the Panels. From non existant to "Lookin Goood" Now, don't make a prominent part of the finish and with that darned good looking office(What we could See anyway) you are building a great looking "Kitty".

       I saw a "Kitty" some time ago and I will say. The only place you could see panels at a distant was where the airframe gets stressed on a daily basis. that's why I never say anything about Bombers.They got overstressed every time they flew, and still do! Last But not Least, Doing what you did to that "Also Ran" kit, brought it up to very high standards, Well Done. Now go get some markings on it, Please?

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Posted by Planegeek on Monday, September 5, 2022 7:09 PM

Nice looking! I know nothing about carrier ops or launching. We have nice long runways in the Air Force. But I do remember the Navy Pilots slamming them on the deck just to show off at Red Flag.

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Posted by oortiz10 on Tuesday, September 6, 2022 9:09 AM

gregbale and Tanker-Builer, I appreciate your comments, but let's wait until we see how this hog's head turns out.

Wink

As far as markings go, I appreciate the Pukin' Dogs suggestion, but I already have something (a little different) in mind.

Planegeek, I was listening to a podcast hosted by a Navy pilot who said that even on shore-based landings, they fly the approach as if they were at the boat.

And there's this...Air Force vs. Navy Landings

 

-It's Omar, but they call me "O".

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Posted by armornut on Tuesday, September 6, 2022 10:18 AM

   Navy pilots used to say that Air Force runways were extremely short but hell for wide.

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Posted by lurch on Wednesday, September 7, 2022 8:28 AM

Yep thats looking like a tomcat. I spent 2 years working on them as an ordnanceman. You are doing great. Keep up the good work.I was with VF-33 based out of N.A.S. Oceana and on board the U.S.S. America out of Norfolk VA. Those were A mods then. 

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Posted by BrandonK on Wednesday, September 7, 2022 8:48 AM

Looks real good. I've built that kit and the join below the cockpit to the lower fuselage and the glove vanes were an issue for me as well. Other than that, the kit was a nice build. I am pleased with how it turned out. It looks like you are taking this to whole new level. Perhaps this one goes to 11.

BK

On the bench:

Tamiya 1/35 M4A3E8 "Fury" with crew,

1/32 Kittyhawk Kingfisher,

1/35 Meng Panther Ausf A Early,

1/48 Pro Modeller P-51C "Boise Bee"

2022 Completed:

1/25 Revell 29 Highboy

1/48 Tamiya Sea Harrier

1/25 Revell 70 Boss 429 Mustang

1/48 Hasegawa D3A1 Type 99 Val

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Posted by oortiz10 on Thursday, September 8, 2022 12:26 PM

lurch, good to know you worked on these birds. I'm sure I'll have some future questions when I get around to building my Hasegawa 'cats.

BrandonK, I remember when you built yours. If I remember correctly, I was building my first Tomcats (Revellogram and an Academy) when you were building yours. (Unfortunately, both suffered mishaps and had to be written off.) Thing is, I don't remember the first one being this much of a bear to build!

-O

-It's Omar, but they call me "O".

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Posted by Straycat1911 on Thursday, September 15, 2022 2:50 PM

Would've saved yourself a lot of angst by buying a Tamiya.

Just sayin.

Looking good.

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Posted by lurch on Friday, September 16, 2022 8:40 AM

Just ask away Oortiz . Hopefully I can remember everything. That was in 1985 -86. 

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