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Posted by bitbite on Saturday, September 21, 2013 12:27 AM

Has anyone else noticed Stik has still not decided on a build?

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Posted by bitbite on Saturday, September 21, 2013 12:33 AM

I promised I'd never mention the M****** again unless someone else brings him up first.  So I won't.  But here's what I'm thinking . . .

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, September 21, 2013 1:22 AM

Remember, I said I will be doing a few figure vignettes. But I may just to a solo seperate build as well.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by pyrman64 on Saturday, September 21, 2013 6:14 AM

I got started on the Horch last evening at my lhs.  Here's what got completed:

the shassis and drive train:

the floor pan, had to fill in the hole for the AA mount, still need to sand it down

the front fender with the horn and NoTek light replaced

Tags: Horch

Greg H

"There is many a boy here today who looks on war as all glory, but, boys, it is all hell." Gen. Wm T. Sherman (11 April 1880, Columbus, Ohio)

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Posted by pyrman64 on Saturday, September 21, 2013 6:20 AM

stikpusher
Interesting... the Heer 711th Infantry Division has the same insignia as the US 5th Infantry Division, a four sided red diamond.

Stik: unlike the US 5ID insignia, the Heer 711.ID red diamond was on a white rectangular background.

 

stikpusher
But Georgie had those sweet six shooters... and was a crack shot with the pistol.

It's easy to hit a stationary target that's not shooting back at ya....I'd put my $$ on Otto "The Long Jumper" Skorzeny.

Greg H

"There is many a boy here today who looks on war as all glory, but, boys, it is all hell." Gen. Wm T. Sherman (11 April 1880, Columbus, Ohio)

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Posted by jibber on Saturday, September 21, 2013 8:20 AM

Bish, would a Befehlsjager Marder III work for this build. I've read where they were in France but I don't know if it would be tied to the Invasion. I just started it a couple days ago and it's an interesting build.

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, September 21, 2013 10:17 AM

It would have to belong to a unit that was in Normandy within the time frame of the GB. Any unit that had Marders would have had a command vehicle. Is this the one your doing for the Hollywood GB. If so then there's a slight problem. The unit involved in the attack at the end of that movie was the 2nd SS Pz Div. But that unit didn't arrive in Normandy until early July, its one of the inaccuracies in the movie. That would put it out of the time frame for the GB.

But if its a different one and it belongs to a unit that was in Normandy at the time, then it would be ok.

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, September 21, 2013 10:20 AM

Greg, nice start on the Horch.I still need to add that to your Stummel.

Did I read that right, you will have iut completed by the weekend.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by jibber on Saturday, September 21, 2013 11:04 AM

I didn't sign this to any build, so I was just wondering if it fits the time frame?

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Posted by bitbite on Saturday, September 21, 2013 11:05 AM

"Remember, I said I will be doing a few figure vignettes. But I may just to a solo seperate build as well."

Oh, yeah!  I remember now. Smile

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, September 21, 2013 11:06 AM

Sorry, I thought you had put this one into the Hollywood GB. In that case, it would depend on which unit markings you are using.

If your doing the Pz.Jg.Abt 243, I am just going to check on that unit now.

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Posted by bitbite on Saturday, September 21, 2013 11:31 AM

"It's easy to hit a stationary target that's not shooting back at ya....I'd put my $$ on Otto "The Long Jumper" Skorzeny."

Pyrman - I think the two notches on the left side of George's revolver would be three if he came up against Otto.  (LOL "The Long Jumper) Smile

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Posted by jibber on Saturday, September 21, 2013 11:37 AM

Bish I'm finding a lot of pics of Marders in and around Normandy but I can't find a unit or veh number. The kit indicates the 243rd, veh #100 in Normandy. By the looks of it they took a real beating....

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, September 21, 2013 11:46 AM

Yes, the Pz.Jg.Abt 243 was a part of the 243rd Ibf Div. This was a static Div based in the Cotentin peninsula and was pushed up into Cherburg. The Div was destroyed in the process.

So yes, that vehicle would be ok for this GB.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by jibber on Saturday, September 21, 2013 11:48 AM

Nice research, thanks.

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, September 21, 2013 12:10 PM

No problem, so I wil add it to the roster.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Gamera on Saturday, September 21, 2013 6:13 PM

Greg: Nice work there, good job on the modifications.

Waynec: Sorry I missed your howitzer before. She looks good, camo looks right to me and the wash seems like it's doing it's job.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by pyrman64 on Saturday, September 21, 2013 6:52 PM

Guys: thanks for the compliments!  Greatly appreciated.

Bish

Greg, nice start on the Horch.I still need to add that to your Stummel.

Did I read that right, you will have iut completed by the weekend.

I was initially planning on having it done.....then it rained all friday night! Bang Head  We'll see what I can get done tonight.....considering all the knock out marks that need filling.

Greg H

"There is many a boy here today who looks on war as all glory, but, boys, it is all hell." Gen. Wm T. Sherman (11 April 1880, Columbus, Ohio)

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Posted by waynec on Saturday, September 21, 2013 9:40 PM
i'm calling this done though i am still working on a small base. that is stained and waiting to dry. my third oil pin wash and it is much better than the first two. may addd a little dust with the base but not a lot. this has the shorter direct fir sight which is why the shield is open and the aiming posts are still attached.

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, September 21, 2013 10:59 PM

VERY nicely done Wayne

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:15 AM

Wayne: That's beautiful! I guess maybe you could add a little dirt/mud to the wheels and spade but otherwise she's perfect!!

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Posted by pyrman64 on Sunday, September 22, 2013 2:38 AM

Wayne: your sIG.33 looks great, well done. Toast

Just one suggestion, a friend/fellow modeler is a re-enacter and his unit has a real sIG....you might want to paint the traverse/azimuth wwheels.  Here's his website (www.grenadier352nd.com/.../hobnails.html) about half way down the page is pics of their gun.  Hope this helps.

Greg H

"There is many a boy here today who looks on war as all glory, but, boys, it is all hell." Gen. Wm T. Sherman (11 April 1880, Columbus, Ohio)

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, September 22, 2013 5:01 AM

wayne, that gun looks great. I will wait until you have it on a base until I add it to the front page, unless you want me to use what you have.

Greg, I thought I read that right. But no worries, I look forward to seeing some more of it.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by jibber on Sunday, September 22, 2013 8:37 AM

Wayne, nice build. I think the washes worked perfect and the extras are awesome. And you were worried about the camo job.......

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Posted by pyrman64 on Sunday, September 22, 2013 10:20 AM

Sunday update: managed to fill and sand the knock out pin marks and get the body panels together.   

Here's the body fitted to the floor pan for alignment

Now I need to decide which unit of the 711ID this Horch will belong to.... Confused

Tags: Horch

Greg H

"There is many a boy here today who looks on war as all glory, but, boys, it is all hell." Gen. Wm T. Sherman (11 April 1880, Columbus, Ohio)

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Posted by waynec on Sunday, September 22, 2013 10:33 AM

i do a lot of modern warwheels so iwill be following this one.

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Posted by waynec on Sunday, September 22, 2013 10:50 AM

jibber 2 years ago the painting would have bothered me but i am more mellow about these things. given my experience with SYRIAN POLICE BRDM (see armor forum) i thought the washes would tone down the iffy camo pattern and was correct

bish (base will be done by wed for ipms meeting) and stikpusher (say hi to duke for me) thanks. i am real happy with this one. while taking pics i noticed an alignment "error" and had to take gun and shield off to fix. i have 11 more towed guns plus 10 towed FLAK in the bunker stash

pyrman64. i figured they would be painted. i usually paint them metal just to add some color (artistic license) but that may not be necessary. i will spot paint them and let some metal show through.

gamera plan to add some dirt along the bottom and the tires but not a lot. haven'y yet as i haven't decided on grouns color yet. i think it was rather dry for most of june so won't use dried coffee grounds or tea leaves. maybe some real dirt and try out doc o'brien's weathering powders.

apologies if i missed anyone.

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Posted by waynec on Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:40 PM

painted the elevation and traverse wheels and some other touch up. on to the base so i figured a short tutorial.

the base is primarily to keep fpols frpm handling the model. the base is a plague from craft store using a 40% off coupon and stained with some one off discounted stain from art store. placed the gun to determine where i wanted a slight rise in the ground  used scrap wood as a filler and clamped it to dry. it looks sloppy with the glue but everything will be covered so it doesn't matter.   i will add to this post as i do more.

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Posted by jgeratic on Sunday, September 22, 2013 8:49 PM

wayne - sweet job on the artillery piece, and fast too, wow!

Regarding the weather in June, there actually was a  severe storm that began on the 19th, lasting three days (not sure the amount of rain it brought to the coastal areas).  It created much destruction on the beaches, even destroying a MULBERRY harbor.   Interesting theory has it that all that activity in English Channel brought it on:  climate-ocean.com/.../7_4.html

There's also of course, the storm in early June that delayed the actual D-Day event.

Greg H - horch is looking good.

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Sherman Vc finally taking shape.  After cutting the floor and attaching the front piece, replaced the lost detail with a thin strip of sheet plastic.  Both upper and lower hulls had to be braced from  inside to correct the wobbly shapes to the walls.  This resin is not the type I'm use to. Very soft, and not very strong when thin - recycled product?

The back plate that over hangs the hull also had deformed edges.  To achieve crisper corners, a thin strip was glued across the bottom, filled in, and then sanded.

The port hull side wall was still misbehaving, yawning inwards.  Squadron putty to the rescue - this will take several sessions of building up and sanding.

A single thin sheet of plastic was used to cover  the hollow sponson areas, and once that was sandwichd between the upper and lower hulll sections, I noticed the back plate wasn't parallel with the bottom hull.  Another shim made of sprue, was strategically placed in the suspect corner, with a clamp holding it in place while the glue dried.

regards,

Jack

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Posted by pyrman64 on Monday, September 23, 2013 7:19 AM

Thank you, Jerry.  Yours is coming along, I see - I don't envy you the headaches that Sherman's giving you, though.

Greg H

"There is many a boy here today who looks on war as all glory, but, boys, it is all hell." Gen. Wm T. Sherman (11 April 1880, Columbus, Ohio)

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