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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Monday, November 25, 2013 12:38 AM

That doesn't sound very nice BlackSheep. Hopefully it will all get sorted.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by taxtp on Monday, November 25, 2013 2:28 AM

Thanks Black Sheep, and good luck with the carpal. I had tingling down my arm and hand for three months once, eventually they worked out that I had two long term wedge compression fractures in my neck.

Long story short, I was lucky to get a good physiotherapist sort out some muscular issues, and the tingling went away, and ten years down the line, no more trouble from my neck.

I hope you get as lucky, or find some relief and put it behind you.

Cheers

Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Monday, November 25, 2013 8:27 AM

BlackSheep: That sounds pretty nasty, good luck with your surgery!

Tony: That is some sharp work! Wish I could get my invasion stripes to turn out half as well!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Australia
Posted by taxtp on Monday, November 25, 2013 8:22 PM

Cliff, I was trying to remember the last time I painted invasion stripes, I was just a kid because it was sometime prior to 1983. They weren't as bad as I had spent the last 30 years avoiding. :)

Cheers

Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by jgeratic on Tuesday, November 26, 2013 2:30 AM

This weekend was spent on the tracks.  To expedite things, I utilized Tamiya's longer length track sections (green plastic).   The different tread pattern is not really that noticeable under the hull sponsons, and those touching the ground can only be seen if the vehicle is flipped upside down.  The front spockets themselves were used as a jig for the individual links, and after the crazy glue had dried, there was no problem removing the assembly, though it is a tight fit.  Same premise on the idler end.

Painting begin first with a grey primer, followed with a full coating of AK acrylic chipping colour, applied with an airbrush.  Flory Sand wash was applied liberally over all.  Tread highlights from regular wear, were picked out with Tamiya's metallic grey.  Another thicker wash was applied by adding some raw umber powder to Flory's Sand wash.  Again, once the track's are in place, some lighter weathering powders will be applied.

regards,

Jack

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, November 26, 2013 7:39 AM

Again great work there Jack, the colour modulation/streaking/ weathering on the tracks and the hull look perfect.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by shivinigh on Tuesday, November 26, 2013 3:17 PM

nice work there Jack. Are you combining the Tamiya links and resin links?

quick update on my P-38. Have the base white and invasion stripes masked off over a very sloppy pre-shading. The stripes on the booms are 9mm and the wings are 8.5mm in width. Here's hoping that I measured properly.

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by taxtp on Tuesday, November 26, 2013 6:44 PM

I commented on the excellent Sherman elsewhere. Shiv, good luck with the masking. It looks ok so far. My preshading is always sloppy, you get plenty of opportunity to fix it later one.

Cheers

Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by shivinigh on Tuesday, November 26, 2013 7:50 PM

And after all the masking is removed

Only have a bit of touch up to do on the striping in the wing and one of the booms

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by taxtp on Tuesday, November 26, 2013 11:33 PM

Pretty good result Shiv, well done. A P-38 is harder than a Tiffie, for sure, so I got it easy.

Cheers

Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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  • From: ON, Canada
Posted by jgeratic on Wednesday, November 27, 2013 12:49 AM

Shiv, neat work with stripes, and looks like you successfully tackled the contours over the boom.

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Gamera and Shiv, thanks for the comments on the Sherman Vc.  Yes, I've used the four long sections of Tamyia track to speed up the build.  I  also would of been short in links had I relied just on the resin ones.

regards,

Jack

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  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, November 27, 2013 1:13 AM

Very nice work on the stripes there Shiv.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by shivinigh on Wednesday, November 27, 2013 1:52 AM

Thanks guys. Going to redo a bit of the white on one wing and get the landing gears on later today. Hope I put enough weight in the nose

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, November 27, 2013 7:35 AM

Shiv: Went back and looked at some of your earlier posts I missed on your P-38- excellent work, love how she's coming out!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, November 27, 2013 2:17 PM

Shiv, I went and a look at some WWII photos. The wing invasion stripes should start immediately outboard of the engine nacelles.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by shivinigh on Wednesday, November 27, 2013 2:26 PM

I was admiring how my stripes turned outand started looking at some pictures I have and came to the same realization. Ah bummers my stripes are too far out. Looks like I have some serious repainting to do.

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, November 27, 2013 2:28 PM

it's good practice and it builds charecter.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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  • From: Australia
Posted by taxtp on Wednesday, November 27, 2013 5:23 PM

Hi Shiv,

Based on that last photo, you could brush paint them unmasked with your left foot and be pretty close to getting the lines straight enough.

It would be great to have a photo of the actual aircraft you are depicting, there must be one around or they wouldn't have used it for the kit decals. There might be some variation that saves you.

Cheers

Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, November 27, 2013 5:33 PM

Not far from the truth Tony. As modelers we often make our kits far neater than the real deal. The stripes were painted on in a hurry by ground crews who had to paint a lot of aircraft in a short time... And in less than ideal conditions. The storm that delayed the landings was over Britain while these aircraft were being painted.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by taxtp on Wednesday, November 27, 2013 5:53 PM

I'm thinking I might paint my next set at the wrong end of a long Saturday night :) . Seriously, I'm regretting leaving my build to the end of this GB, it would have been good to do a few more. I guess with my current rate of completion (5 in November so far), you never know, but I've got 5 more to get done by years end just to meet my GB commitments, and another one that is close enough that I just want to get it done.

Cheers

Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, November 27, 2013 6:35 PM

Yikes! And I thought trying to get one more done by the end of the year was a challenge...

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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  • From: Oil City, PA
Posted by greentracker98 on Wednesday, November 27, 2013 10:55 PM

stikpusher

Yikes! And I thought trying to get one more done by the end of the year was a challenge...

I hear ya Stik, Even one build takes me at the very least 2 months. Zip it! Geeked

BTW Does anyone know the width of the invasion stripes for the P 38, and the P 47

 

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Posted by greentracker98 on Wednesday, November 27, 2013 11:08 PM

 

okay, I'll answer my own question LOL

Marking description[edit]

Geoffrey Page, commander of 125 Wing, about to take off on a ground-attack sortie in his Supermarine Spitfire (1944). The roughly–applied nature of the invasion stripes painted on his aircraft can be seen

The stripes were five alternating black and white stripes. On single-engined aircraft each stripe was to be 18 inches (46 cm) wide, placed 6 inches (15 cm) inboard of the roundels on the wings and 18 inches (46 cm) forward of the leading edge of the tailplane on the fuselage. National markings and serial number were not to be obliterated. On twin-engined aircraft the stripes were 24 inches (61 cm) wide, placed 24 inches (61 cm) outboard of the engine nacelles on the wings, and 18 inches (46 cm) forward of the leading edge of the tailplane around the fuselage.

In most cases the stripes were painted on by the ground crews; with only a few hours notice, few of the stripes were "masked".[1] As a result, depending on the abilities of the "erks" (RAF nickname for ground crew), the stripes were often far from neat and tidy.

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Posted by greentracker98 on Thursday, November 28, 2013 12:55 AM

Okay , This does not look right, at least I don't think so. I taped off one wing with the width i found on wiki. When I was in college, They said we could not use Wiki. So, I'm going to do some more research on this.

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, November 28, 2013 1:05 AM

Green, it is not correct. The P-38 seems to have been the exception to to 24" outboard rule. Look at the photos I posted on the last page. The innermost stripes are immediately outboard oh the engine nacelle, not 24" out.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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  • From: Oil City, PA
Posted by greentracker98 on Thursday, November 28, 2013 4:27 AM

stikpusher

Green, it is not correct. The P-38 seems to have been the exception to to 24" outboard rule. Look at the photos I posted on the last page. The innermost stripes are immediately outboard oh the engine nacelle, not 24" out.

Thanks Stik. I stopped at where I'm at in the pics. Would the stripes still be 24" (1/2")  wide though?

A.K.A. Ken                Making Modeling Great Again

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, November 28, 2013 11:50 AM

greentracker98

stikpusher

Green, it is not correct. The P-38 seems to have been the exception to to 24" outboard rule. Look at the photos I posted on the last page. The innermost stripes are immediately outboard oh the engine nacelle, not 24" out.

Thanks Stik. I stopped at where I'm at in the pics. Would the stripes still be 24" (1/2")  wide though?

Looks like 24" to me...

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Thursday, November 28, 2013 1:06 PM

Ouch, that looks like one of my screw-ups! Just finished a Tamiya P-51 and then realized that I hadn't put the friggin' radiator inside that belly air scoop and there's no way to fix it now without ripping the whole darn thing apart!  

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, November 28, 2013 1:24 PM

Some great info being shared here guys. I know what you all mean about making everything neat and tidy. The same goes for German camo schemes. It can be hard to get your head round the idea that they might not always be nice and perfect, but sometimes were applied with anything to hand.

Interesting second pic there Stik.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by greentracker98 on Thursday, November 28, 2013 1:39 PM

Gamera

Ouch, that looks like one of my screw-ups! Just finished a Tamiya P-51 and then realized that I hadn't put the friggin' radiator inside that belly air scoop and there's no way to fix it now without ripping the whole darn thing apart!  

LOL, I thought I was the only one that screwed things up like this Geeked

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