Civil aviation group build Mar 3, 2007 to Dec 17, 2007

This is an interesting story about a King Air mishap:

http://www.war-clouds.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=1924

Happy ending fortunately

Hi Everyone

Count me in on this one, I'll be building the venerable Airfix De Havilland Heron in 1.72 scale. Recently re-released in their Civil Aviation Pack.....

Simon

IL2windhawk wrote:

This is an interesting story about a King Air mishap: http://www.war-clouds.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=1924 Happy ending fortunately

Geeeeezzzzz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'd say if you were fortunate enough to be standing upright after something like that, you'd walk away with a whole new prospective of life.... I know I would!! <8-O

Thanks for sharing that...

Frank

Simon L & Solid, I've added you to the build.

Solid I've seen a few of your other wood builds and they are amazing, it will be interesting to see this one in progress.

Ok, so its a turbo commander, I'm guessing one of those aero-commanders might be a good starting point if I happen across one "cheap" someday? The overall appearance looks pretty similar.

The crew of that King Air are probably still finding bits of seat cusion, something like that would have to change your outlook on things. When I worked on an ambulance we responded to a small plane crash, the pilot of a small twin engine came in without lowering the landing gear, his passengers were a pair of congressmen. The plane was probably a write off but luckily no one was hurt. Afterwards we were talking about it and we decided that fraction of a second where the pilot knew he should have felt the bump of the wheels on the runway and just before the bottom of the plane touched down must have been the longest in his life, filled with a Homer Simpson voice saying "d'oh the wheels" over and over. We felt pretty bad for the pilot, that can not be a career enhancer.

I played around with some banner ideas for the GB....

Take care,

Frank

oldhooker wrote:

I played around with some banner ideas for the GB....   Take care, Frank

I like the Cub!

The TurboCommander would require a longer fuselage, different pointy nose, I think longer wings and a bit different tail, along with different engine nacelles and props.  The fuselage cross section and windshield is probably the same, at least.  It would be easier to start from scratch, more than likely.

jeaton01 wrote:

oldhooker wrote: I played around with some banner ideas for the GB....   Take care, Frank I like the Cub! The TurboCommander would require a longer fuselage, different pointy nose, I think longer wings and a bit different tail, along with different engine nacelles and props.  The fuselage cross section and windshield is probably the same, at least.  It would be easier to start from scratch, more than likely.

Reminds me of a comedian talking about his dad collecting junk.

This chair is fine, all it needs is 4 legs and a back.

Dad, it's a tray.

I like the Red & white cessna the best but the cub is nice too. If people want to vote for one I'm fine with that or we can just let people pick the one they feel matches their build best. Open to other ideas as well, if we let people pick one of several we will propably need a large commercial one as well. For some reason the other night I had the idea of a head on shot of a small private plane with an airliner right on its tail.

oldhooker wrote:

I played around with some banner ideas for the GB....   Take care, Frank

I love this!!!!  What aircraft better typifies civil aviation than the Super Cub?  You got my vote!

Brian 

jeaton01 wrote:

I like the Cub! The TurboCommander would require a longer fuselage, different pointy nose, I think longer wings and a bit different tail, along with different engine nacelles and props.  The fuselage cross section and windshield is probably the same, at least.  It would be easier to start from scratch, more than likely.

John & Brian,

Yes, I kinda favor that one also... the old Cub is kinda the grandfather of Civil Aviation.

Aaron;    As he said, it would probably be better to start from scratch, given all the cutting, stretching, and molding it would require to bring the old Aurora kit into the "turbo" era!

You mentioned a small plane sitting in front of a big plane...  I found this picture on Airliners.Net that also shows both planes in contrast.

These are just ideas...

Take care,

Frank

Great work on the badges. I prefer the top two...take your pick.

My 250th post, must be some  sort of milestone

Daywalker wrote:

Any chance of getting a badge with an air racer on it?

Here ya go Daywalker....

Take care,

Frank

gulfstreamV wrote:

On the Aero C, anybody ever get to see Mr. Bob Hoover shakedown his Shrike? He could fly the paint off that thing.

Absolutely....

Who could forget seeing the tall, lanky fellow in the green business suit and straw hat, stroll out to the Shrike, wave at the crowd, and begin an airshow performance that left everyone's mouth gaping!      Then during the height of the performance, watching him cut the engines, feather the props, and do things most of us wouldn't attempt even if the engines WERE running!

I've got a video that shows inside the Shrike, as Bob pours a glass of ice tea, while doing a barrel role! (you can see the earth rotating out the front window)      The man has "The TOUCH".

Take care,

Frank

oldhooker wrote:

I've got a video that shows inside the Shrike, as Bob pours a glass of ice tea, while doing a barrel role! (you can see the earth rotating out the front window)      The man has "The TOUCH".

I think this is the video you are referring too...  
amazing flying

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZBcapxGHjE

IL2windhawk wrote:

oldhooker wrote: I've got a video that shows inside the Shrike, as Bob pours a glass of ice tea, while doing a barrel role! (you can see the earth rotating out the front window)      The man has "The TOUCH". I think this is the video you are referring too...   amazing flying http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZBcapxGHjE

Yes, that's the one!      

Take care,

Frank

I like the cessna flying in front of the airliner but it is a little hard to make out and would be practically impossible to see at GB badge size, Oh, well.  

Well since Frank seems to be happy cranking out GB badges, I guess everyone can select the badge that they like or best fits their build. If we can impose on him for one more, an airliner should round out the selection nicely.

I'm going to be out of town all week, but everyone here seems well behaved so I doubt there will be any trouble. If we get anymore "applicants" for the build I'll update the list next weekend (2/17).  

Frank-

Thanks a lot for the air-racer badge.  Woo-Hoo! 

Frank

Racedriver-

Welcome!  Hopefully this GB will help inspire you.  It looks to be a lot of fun!

Frank

Ok fellows...

Now that we're building our ranks and waiting to build our builds', I thought I'd throw in a little General Aviation material, involving the venerable (and versatile) Piper J-3.   Question: "What's going on here?"

Have fun!

Frank

Last person with a hand on the plane wins it?

How to turn a Cub around on a narrow airstrip? 

Thanks for all the guesses...      Dan's about the closest with his second guess... 

There's a lot of things that could be, but it's actually Mr. Charlie Kulp (in the J-3) as he begins his Airshow/Fly-In routine: "The apparent *pilot* chases down the runaway farmer,who rolls to a stop with the aft fuselage poised high in the air (breaks, a little power, and forward stick to hold the tail off the ground), the *pilot* pushes the J-3 180 degrees around".   

Many know him as "The Flying Farmer"!     For those unfamiliar with traditional old-time airshows, at some point in the activities an announcement is made about the winner of a free airplane ride....  this old man comes forward with the winning ticket!

He gets in the backseat of a pretty cub-yellow J-3 (his plane) to begin his ride, with the *pilot" in the front seat.      As they're taxiing out, one of the airport attendants points something out on the airplane, as if something's wrong....  the *pilot* stops the plane and gets out to see, when he does, the little old farmer goes full throttle, the Cub's tail up in the air, with the *real* pilot running along beside him....  

He rambles down the runway, first up on one wheel and then the other... sometimes they'll have a police car race out onto the ramp att his point... ....

He makes a low pass by the apparently dismayed *pilot*, watching from the runway...

He flies the old Cub as if he's never been in an airplane before, all over the sky doing low-level loops, heavy crabs, skids, slips, spins... ..... things you could ONLY get by with in a J-3!

Alas, it's all part of the show.     During one performance several years ago, a rookie police officer on duty at the airshow, thought it was all real and actually blocked the taxiway with his car and pulled Charlie out of the plane!  LOL!    He thought he'd saved the day.... but actually had messed up the routine!!  LOL!

http://www.theflyingfarmerofvirginia.com/

The old school

Frank