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60th Anniversary Korean War Group Build- extended for the duration

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Friday, October 8, 2010 6:02 PM

Thank's for the kind words on the Mariner , Gamera

Last night out of curiosity , I had a bit of a look at my Korean War armor stash and noticed an issue with the Revell 1/76 M19 Tank Transporter kit .

While looking at the parts on the sprue I saw that part of the main truck chassie had broken off . It wasn't floating loose in the plastic bag and the way the parts are securely attached to the sprue frame it would take quite a bit of banging around for anything to come loose ; So to me , it seems like a manufacturing /packing problem that has occured...

I checked out Revell's web site and they say for non European customers who require missing or replacement parts to take the kit back to the store where you puchased the kit for an exchange along with the original reciept ...

Stupid me didn't keep the receipt With Stupid

As you can see from the instruction sheet , the shaded area showing what looks to be the transmission is the section that I'm missing ; I was wondering if there was another type of 1/76-72 scale truck with the same type of chassie that I could buy to replace my broken one ?

I suppose I could try and add some plastic strip to extend the broken chassie but this looks a little difficult , I thought maybe another inexpensive truck for spare parts might be easier .

Any thoughts.......

                               John .

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Posted by Aaronw on Friday, October 8, 2010 10:55 PM

Most truck chassis are pretty simple and that doesn't look any different. I also build 1/25 fire apparatus models which requires lots of scratchbulding. I frequently stretch the frame of truck kits with rectangular or C channel styrene, so I don't see why you couldn't build the missing pieces. You should be able to figure out the length from the sprue attachment and can figure out the size of styrene strip similar in size to the remaining frame. If you are concerned with strength you can make reinforcing plates from thin strip overlapping the join.

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Friday, October 8, 2010 10:57 PM

I think I may have had a bit of luck with a replacement front chassie section .

While I was looking around some on-line hobby stores at military vehicles , I suddenly remembered I had an old Airfix A.E.C Matador refuelling truck in the spares box ;

The main chassie of the AEC Matador appears to be the same width and probably in length as well as the Revell M19 ; Revell's front suspension pieces fit in the same spot as the Aifix one's originally fitted ;

The Airfix chassie also fits quite snuggly into the underside of the Revell M19 cabin floor ;

So I'm now thinking of grafting part of the Airfix AEC Matador front chassie section to the Revell M19 rear chassie section , I'll just have to figure out exactly where to cut the Matador chassie .

I think this might work , I'll have a try and see how things go ...

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Friday, October 8, 2010 11:06 PM

Hi Aaron ,

Thank's for help , I like your idea of the reinforcing plates for added strength overlapping the join on the inside of the frame , that will certainly help . I'm felling more and more confident about this each minute Smile

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Saturday, October 9, 2010 1:22 AM

Well I did a little sawing and filing....

Both chassie's fit nicely into the underside of the cabin floor , so this will be of additional help keeping everything lined up ;

I'll keep going with the build seeing I've made a nice start , I'm really happy how this has worked out .

                            John .

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Posted by simpilot34 on Saturday, October 9, 2010 2:45 AM

Stik hope it all works out buddy!!!

Greg your double pony is looking great!!

John, what can I say but WOW!!! That Mariner looks awesome!!! Love the shading you have done and the pic after the rain, WELL DONE!!!! As for the truck, I'm glad you solved the prob of the chassis! As with most things produced during war time, a LOT of standardization was made to speed things up. So the luck of finding a similar chassis from an entirely different kit isn't too surprising and a darn good save!!! Another well done!!

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by Helo H-34 on Saturday, October 9, 2010 5:42 PM

Thank's for the kind words on the PBM-5 Mariner , Simpilot34 ;

The pic of the Mariner outside on the sea ramp just after it stop raining was a spur of the moment decision , as it turned out it's probably the best photo I have ever taken of my scale models .

Anyway I glued both chassie's to the underside of the cabin floor and added the front and rear axle's and suspensions ;

Everything sits nice and level , so I'm really happy how this has worked out for me ;

Revell instructions call out for the interior of the cabin to be 'Dust Grey' 77 , is this the correct color for the interior ?

I was thinking that apart from the seat cushions everything might be olive drab inside and out ???

I'll airbrush the interior pieces first , once I figure out what color to do and then add the cabin and tray parts to the front section .

Everything seems to be going along well .

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Posted by Aggieman on Saturday, October 9, 2010 9:07 PM

Well, gee whiz, I managed to sign up for a bunch of group builds and completely forgot this one.  My build for this GB, Monogram's F9F-5P Panther, is complete.  I posted my progress on another GB (Early Jets), but here are photos of the completed build and the pit.

 

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Sunday, October 10, 2010 3:44 AM

Aggieman ,

That's an awesome F9F-5P , the cockpit detail is amazing and the overall finish of the Marine photo recon Panther is fantastic

Well done Sir ; Toast

I did a little more on the M19 Tank Transporter ;

I airbrushed lots of parts with Gunze H-78 'Olive Drab 2' before finally glueing into position

I'll start glueing the parts together first thing tomorrow .

                                  John .

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Monday, October 11, 2010 5:00 PM

I decided to break out the 1/72 Hobby Boss M4A3E8 Tank kit , as I want her to sit on the trailer of the M19 Tank Transporter I'm building.

This is my first tank build ever and the Hobby boss Sherman looks nice and easy ;

I was a little confused for the fist 10 minutes or so , when I couldn't figure out why there was so many wheels and suspension pieces provided ;

But I discovered that Hobby Boss give you a choise of bogie's with one wheel attached and seperate bogie's with seperate wheels , so I went with the seperate pieces ...

There is no interior pieces that fit into the lower hull , so I wasn't going to worry about airbrushing the insides white , nothing to see .

I'll airbrush the wheels and suspension pieces , lower hull and a few other bits and pieces Gunze H-78 Olive Drab 2 ; After the paint has dried I'll mask the wheel hubs and paint the outer rims steel color like on the box art .

Nice and easy for my first Armor build ; She should look good sitting on the back of the M19 .

                              John .

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 8:00 PM

The M19 Tank Transporter is progressing along nicely ;

I had the idea of inserting a small metal thread screw to attach the tank trailer to the smaller trailer bogie section that hooks to the back of the truck ; Sorry I don't know the proper terms for the trailer components .

I assume this part of the trailer does actually pivot ?

Anyway , I'll airbrush the tyre's flat black next and then I can attach the wheels.

                                           John .

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 9:47 PM

Bloody hell helo, your a one man GB

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 11:00 PM

Impressive as hell, isn't he Mikey? Helo has finished more kits since the start of this GB  than I have all year...Embarrassed

Aggie, your Panther looks sweet! Thank you for taking part here and posting the finished kit. I hope you do another Korean War subject here with us. We still have about 9 months 'till our cease fire...

As for me, I think I have the speed bumps of life behind me for the time being and have been concentrating on other builds the past few days. My Centurion will reappear here soon...Whistling

I did complete the building of a 1/35 BMD-1 today, so that kit is off to the paint bench!

here's a peek!

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 3:05 AM

Good to see ya again stik ,

Your BMD-1 is looking great ;

I have another question about Aircraft operating in the early day's of the Korean War ;

Chapter 1 in my Air War Korea 1950-1953 book starts with a pic of an F-82G twin Mustang sitting near two Northrop P-61 Black Widows ...

The caption say's crews were converting from the P-61 to the F-82 some months before the outbreak of the war .

Did any of the P-61 Black Widows fly at all in the early days , I have an Airfix 1/72 P-61kit that's been sitting in my stash for over ten years , I thought about added her into the mix ?

                                                     John

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Posted by Gregbbear on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 10:06 AM

That is a cool picture!  I have never seen a picture of those two types together.  Something interesting just happened.  As I was sitting here, I heard something flying over with piston engines ( not the usual F-16s and C-5s), I walk outside and a B-17 flies over my house.  How cool is that?  When I used to live in Galveston, I used to see stuff like that more often.  There, I even saw a Lancaster fly over.

John, even if the Black Widow wasn't used, you are going to have quite the night fighter collection that it will fit right into.  If I had any idea on how to host a GB, I think I would want to start a night fighter GB.  By the way, the tank and transporter are looking good.

No photographable progress for the F-82 and F-51.  They are both just about ready for the paint booth.  I have a massive Junkers in line ahead of them though.  Matter of fact, I need to get off the computer and continue masking that beast.

Cheers,

Greg

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 12:50 PM

Interesting question John. I have never heard of Black Widows being flown in Korea, but that certainly does not mean it did not happen. I suppose some more research is in order here. That would be a superb addition of a rare subject. I suppose knowing when the conversion process from F-61 to F-82 was completed. That pic is dated 1949 and so it could be as little as 6 months prior to the start of hostilities.Hmm

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 12:55 PM

I just checked Wiki and they say the last operational Widow left Japan in May 1950. They just missed the war...Boo Hoo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-61_Black_Widow

Great article there BTW.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 3:51 PM

Thank's for the link stik ,

I read the article and the F-61's missed the Korean War only by a month ;

However I really like the pic on page one of Chapter 1 , so seeing I have two F-82's in the stash , I think I'll add the Black Widow and do a Diorama of all three on the flight line just like the photo .

Greg , It must of been great to see a B-17 fly over , the only time I've been close to an ex military aircraft that was still in flying condition was an C-69 Constellation . I got a bit of a shock when they fired off those cartridge's to start the engines ; "HOLY CRAP" I haven't seen so much black smoke in my life...

                          John .

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Posted by Gregbbear on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 5:02 PM

Wow, the F-61 almost made it!  Very interesting.  I was looking around a little and saw that the USMC had ten P-61Bs called F2T-1N that they used as radar trainers.  I looked around, but I couldn't find any pictures of one.  That would be a bird I would have to build.

Later today, a B-25 flew over.  I heard something else, but I didn't get outside in time to see what it was. 

Cheers,

Greg

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 8:46 PM

Couldnt find anything on the F2T-1N but i did find this

http://www.americancombatplanes.com/p61_1.html

The XP-61E is a bit of a looker.

Also found this coment of the MAAM website

F2T-1 - United States Navy Trial Planes; two such converted.

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, October 14, 2010 10:32 AM

Wow, I see F-15s fly over all the time and every now and again a F/A-18 but it must be awesome to look up and see a vintage warbird like a B-25!

Helo: The transporter looks great and nice save on the missing piece.

Stikpusher: Nice looking BMD-1!

After looking the missing pitchfork thingee for over a week I finally broke down and scratchbuilt a replacement. It's far from exact but I figure there aren't enough experts on modern S. Korean AFVs to tell the difference.

BTW: Stikpusher do you mind if I toss in a second model in a Trumpy 1/48th Panther? Aggieman's beautiful model has pushed me into pulling it out and starting it:

 

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Posted by Gregbbear on Thursday, October 14, 2010 11:42 AM

Gamera, glad you are able to fix your ROK tank.  That Panther looks sweet.  I have been thinking of buying one of those.  I'm interested to see what you think.  The IP looks great.

Those are some cool Black Widow shots and info.  -C was fast!  430mph is pretty darn good.  They would have been serious hunters in the night sky if they had gone into service earlier.

Cheers,

Greg

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, October 14, 2010 12:27 PM

Gamera, I am glad to hear that you were able to scratch a substitute part for your K1. All too ofthen these days I find myself doing the same thing. And yes, the F9F is most welcome here. That cockpit looks great so far! Yes

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by STFD637 on Thursday, October 14, 2010 12:45 PM

Hey everyone! The builds are looking great!! I have been diligently working on my H-19 "Rescue Chickasaw." i added some detail.....but in classic modeling fasion as soon as the fusilage halves were together it was gone. Some big seams to fill as you can see. Painted the pontoons in Gunze Tire Black. After I sand the putty and Mr. Color down on the seams it will be on to painting. The  paint guide just says silver. I was thinking of doing Flat Alum. But bought a rattle can of testors Metalizer Mag. We will see how it looks. I will probably do a little polishing on certain areas.

I also added tape seatblets to the seats. I added a hose that runs over the top of the control conesul using stretched sprue.

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Thanks for looking. This has actually been a fun build....a good break from the A/C I have been on lately!

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, October 14, 2010 1:30 PM

Travis: Sharp!

Thanks guys, hopefully I'll be able to get a primer coat on the K1A1 this weekend and start on the camo soon after that. Crossing my fingers I'll have photos by next week.

The Trumpy F9F is a solid kit, not Tamiya quality but from dry fitting her she looks like a shake the box kit. It comes with a gun nose and the photo recee nose like Aggieman's kit as well as a half dozen bombs and rockets. I used one of Eduard's excellent ZOOM PE sets in my cockpit, everything is pre-painted, just sand off the detail there and glue the placards in place. God only knows I'd never have gotten that kind of detail on the gadges with a brush. Still the kit comes with a PE part for the instrament panel and nice detail in the cockpit that with some extra work would have turned out pretty well.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Thursday, October 14, 2010 7:38 PM

Travis , your H-19 is coming along nicely ;

Here's a pic of a H-19 with pontoons from the 3rd Rescue Squadron 1952....

Anyway , a little more progress on the M19 and M4A3E8 , I airbrushed several light coats of Gunze H-30 clear yesterday on all the seperate parts ...

I kindly ask for some advice and assistance with the wethering of both vehicles .

All my aircraft builds have always been of a clean finish , However this wont suit the M19 or Sherman tank , so apart from adding some thinned black wash enamel to the engine screens etc , I was wondering as to how you guy's achieve a finish like in the pic below...

I really like how the wheels and tyres have a dirty/dusty appearance and I suppose it would be the same under the chassie's of both vehicles ; but I have no idea on how to go about in achieving this ???????

Any help would be appreciated .

                                               John .

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Posted by pepper kay on Thursday, October 14, 2010 7:39 PM

Hi All:

I've yet to find any way to load an image to this FSM GB Topic (pages) ...

So, here's the URL to the page I mentioned re the nightfighters on a base in Korea ... once the PhotoBucket page loads up, please scroll down and you'll see a thumbnail of my photo ... click on that to open and view ...

http://s1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/pepper-kay/KOREA%20GB/

And, if anyone can help me find a way to post images directly here - as so many others are doing - I'd certainly appreciate it ...

Thanks,

pepper

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Thursday, October 14, 2010 8:10 PM

Your using photo bucket. Theres a URL you can copy for each of your photos which starts with "[IMG]" and ends with [ /IMG ] Just copy and paste that into your post.

"I am a leaf on the wind, watch how i soar"

Recite the litanies, fire up the Gellar field, a poo storm is coming Hmm 

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Thursday, October 14, 2010 8:34 PM

Pepper ;

I use Image Shack to upload my pic's .

I had my brother type out step by step instructions for me to use ...

I hope this helps .

                              John .

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Posted by Gregbbear on Thursday, October 14, 2010 8:47 PM

Yes, what he said.  I scrolled over the picture, the pop down img, clicked on it, went to edit on my tool bar, hit copy, went to the reply to post, went back to edit and hit paste.

Caught a run.

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