Helo H-34

Looking good Pepper

Just out of curiosty , what is the date stamp on the underside of the wings on your Shooting Star , my Airfix Centurion had 1964 stamped on the inside of the hull bottom piece .

                     John .

There's no date stamp anywhere, just COPYRIGHT REVELL, etc. ... I'm ready to assemble the fuselage and have decided to glue the 2 right halves together, then the 2 lefts, then the whole thing ... seems like a better fit that way ...

I use a long sanding block to true up fuselages, wings and stabs ... double sided tape on the wooden block and then a choice of sandpapers down on the tape ... the block is 3/4" thick and 3" x 12" in dimension ... I really like the results ...

Our temps have moderated to some degree (no pun intended) ... forecast is for cooler weather through the weekend with the highs to be 104+ ... I think I need a vacation at the beach :-) ...

pepper

Draken Andy: Great photos, thanks for sharing.

Pepper: Please keep us updated on the P/F-80.

'Fair Dinkum' , Greg ;

I swear , sometimes you and I must have some type of psychic modelling connection .

This kit arrived yesterday and I bought it to have a go at kit bashing a M32B1 Recovery Tank in 1/72 scale ;

Italeri provide a really nice engine with their M4A1 kit ;

I also have Italeri's 1/35 M32 Recovery Tank and I've using those instructions to help me with the Millcast resin M32 build .

I'm not sure if I'm sounding a little too brave as well but I don't think it would be too difficult to scratch build most of the extra bits and pieces . The little pulley pieces look a little challenging to reproduce but not impossible .

I'm in the process of taking measurements from the resin M34 and writing things down and I've scanned some of Italeri's 1/35 instruction diagrams and adding 1/72 measurements to those pic's

I'll post what I have done shortly , I also like the how Italeri give us the option of both flexible tracks and track pieces to glue together . When I file the rest of the resin pour block from the bottom tracks on the Millcast M34 , I was worried about loosing some track detail . I can now use some of the spare track lengths from the Italeri kit .

BTW , Great pic's Andy , especially the Aussie's  ;

I also recently bought 6 of those Dragon AAV-7A1 kits and the USMC Mogadishu 1993 kit does have the metal hull pieces , while the other kits are all plastic .

Pepper , I look forward to seeing more of your Shooting Star build .

                            John .

John, a 72nd with engine?  That is really nice!  I think you are right, we must share some brain waves or something.  I am definetely interested in seeing what you post on the M32.  I want to do the B3 with the HVSS.  Draken, the Army still used ones with the VVS too.  There is a nice pic of one towing a Chafee in the Squadron book. 

The Korean AAV is a P7.  The Dragon ones are all of the P7A1.  The main exterior differences being only one stanchion for the cargo hatches, totally different headlights, and only 4 shocks.  They are actually a couple of inches shorter too.  The AAV's with the six digit USMC number beginning with 522 were born P7, and ones with 523 were born P7A1's.  Interestingly, these had a weld down the hull from where it was lengthened.  The length reason was they went from a Detroit Diesel to a 903 Turbo Cummins!  I would love to see any amtrac pics you have Andy.  I wonder if the ROK's left them stock or not?  Also, Andy, I visited your website for the first time the other day.  Well done!  I really like it.  Also, you are lucky I am a fireman and not a baggage handler for the airlines or your bags would have got "lost", sir.

Cheers,

Greg

Yo Greg,

If you're looking for a 72nd-ish engine, the Nitto/Fujimi kits all have at least one.  They will always have the V8, but if necessary will have the sprue for the radial as well.  I've even got some of the radials left over.  I'm PRETTY sure that my M-30 came with both.  The drive shaft isn't separate, but the transmission is.  If you can find them for under $10, they're worth buying.  Anything over that is a waste of funds.

BTW, thanks for the props on the web site!  I'm trying desperately to figure out how to add more photos.  Google has limited the image number and it makes the whole thing kinda pointless for what I'm doing.

I'm very disappointed that my Squadron book on Armour in Korea didn't arrive before I left the states.  I was really hoping to read it on the plane, and drool over it when I got home.  Having said that, I've still got some books here that are uber awesome!

A little off-topic but I came across a web site for 1/72 scale Sherman kits and resin sets .

Some of the company's providing resin upper hulls and turrets for IDF versions are CPL Overby's Motorpool and Modelltrans .....

http://www.172shermans.com/sherman_Israeli__list.htm

I searched around google and ebay a little bit for those manufacture's and resin goodies but have had no luck finding anything for 1/72 M50 amd M51 Super Shermans and other Israeli M4 Sherman's .

Anyone ever heard of those companys ?

                                  John .

Andy, too bad about the book.  You will be glad you got it, and worth the wait.  I am glad I took John's lead and got one!  That is too bad about Google limiting your images.  Lucky for me, I have been able to see a lot of them on here. 

How does 76 scale compare to 72nd?  Do they look out of place together?

You guys are bad influences though.  When I joined this GB, I mainly built in 48th scale aircraft.  Now, I am hooked on "braille scale", and really digging armor too!  Speaking of, I think my Sherman has dried enough, and I am going to go do some weathering.

Cheers,

Greg

WAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaay off topic.

But still funny as heck!

A marketing company working with Tamiya has produced model kits for modern conspiracies.  Check them out here:

http://sparkverse.com/5-conspiracy-theories-as-tamiya-plastic-model-kits/

I'd link to the ogilvy web site but it's incredibly annoying to navigate and I can't find the kits there!

Hello all, Tamiya?  That explains it all!  Why all the conspiracy pieces FIT, because of Tamiya's legendary fit!

I actually finished something!  My Trumpeter Easy 8 is done.  Mostly out of the box.  I put in MV lenses for the headlights, and my doberman "donated" the antenna.  I learned a few things that I will apply, and help my future armor builds.  My camera sucks though.  Of the six or so pictures I took, these three are the only usable ones.  Still, I really am happy with it, the tank that is.

Shout out to John, thanks for the M32 info.  That will be a big help.

Cheers,

Greg

Okay,

So I' going to jump in this week with a Seafire FR 47.  This is the start of the Czech Master Resin 1/72 scale kit.  I've obviously lost a very important part and have no idea what to do, but I'm continuing anyway.  Ventura out of kiwiland makes one also, but I found this to be my best option.  The fuselage is severely warped, it doesn't line up with the wings, nothing fits worth a dang, but the detail is incredible!  And it all comes in sheets of resin.  This is my first kit that's made in this manner and will be fun to build.  I've already fixed three things that I've broken.

Andy, that looks really challenging!  The FR47 is on my wish list.  I keep hoping that someone will release one in 72nd scale plastic.  I did hear that one of the Czech makers (Sword?) is supposedly going to do one.  I will probably just get one in 48 when Airfix re-releases theirs later this year.  Good luck with yours.

Cheers,

Greg

Hey Guys,

                   Back after several weeks away for a long bank holiday at home, and rediscovering the joys of an internet connection, looks like Ive a lot of catching up to do here. I've invested in a few more items for the stash, now have a PM C-45 (with aftermarket decals), a Dragon LVT on order, the Special Hobby Firefly V has arrived so I can eventually replace my ancient airfix offering and finally I picked up a very rare bird that so far we've all missed... Im waiting for an RS models Tachikawa Ki-9 'Spruce' to arrive - still in use in 1951 and the Kit has Korean markings, check out these pics I found too - 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tachikawa_Ki-9_-_Aircraft.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tachikawa_Ki-9_-_Aircraft-2.jpg

Makes me wonder what other leftover Japanese stuff both Koreas airforces may still have had in the inventory circa 1950..?

@Gregbear, you can get an injection moulded Seafire FR47 - http://www.jaysmodelkits.com/jaysmk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65_71&products_id=190 & for a review http://www.scalemodelersworld.com/articles/the-workbench/jays-model-kits-1-72-supermarine-seafire-mk-47.html

@Stikpusher, I was sorry to hear about your mother, hope you're doing ok? Loving the Centurion...

Doc

Hi Doc , Glad to see you back

Nice score on the Tachikawa Ki-9 , that's definitly one that I never knew operated in the early stages of the Korean War . Excellent find indeed along with the wikipedia pic's .

Andy , great start on the FR-47 , looks a little challenging too .

The links Doc posted on the FR-47 kit do seem tempting , I also have the special hobby Firefly V in the stash , it does seem appropriate to have a Seafire as well .

Greg ;

Really nice work on the Trumpy "Easy 8"  . The weathering looks spot on and I see you placed your tiger decal in the correct position on the front of the tank , unlike me who put mine too high up , damm box art  .

I see you picked out the tools that are molded on the rear upper hull nicely as well .

The Sherman Easy 8 came out great  

                      John .

HIYA DOC!

Long time, no see.  Glad to have ye back.  In answer to your question about what left over stuff was still in use, here's a couple pics of a Japanese 75mm mountain gun from the War Memorial Museum.  Also in use wer Japanese mortars and rifles.

Now back to our previously interrupted WIP:

The fuselage came together fairly well with slow methodical placement of CA glue.  The prop is SUPPOSED to spin.  No.  Too much effort required.  I'd have to add the shaft (not included, and drill out the resin for the inner prop and the fuselage.  I haven't decided which weapons fit to include nor whether or not I should install the RATO's.  I realize that I'm rather unorthodox in painting the fuselage when I did, but since my 'sky' paint is rattle can lacquer and the 'dark sea grey' is bottle brush enamel, this is how it's going.  To be completely honest, apart fro the warped fuselage and me breaking things, this is a quite decent kit for being a very short run resin from an RTV mold.  Spendy as  heck ($42 [USD]), but one of the few options available.

In other news, I got sniped on an Armageddon LCT-6, almost picked it up for half price.  DANGIT!  Good for him, though.  If I really want it I know where I can get one for regular price and free shipping.  Also, due to an errant aerial pasta disaster, does anyone know how to get Chef-Boy-Ardee sauce off of a keyboard and decal sheet?

Wow Andy , your really plowing through the FR-47 build , great stuff .

Thanks also for the tip on the Mirage IIIC/J Reconn  on ebay , unfortunately the seller was only shipping inside the US only .

I did pick up one of those KP ilyushin Il-10 kits and somehow I managed to buy two il-28 medium bombers , I only ment to buy one . The Reds use to fly them along the Yalu at the very moment Sabres were

patrolling on the other side . The Reds just like showing off their newest air weapon . The other mistakenly bought il-28 will go in the IDF operation Moked , June 1967 Egyptian airbase raid .

Bad luck about missing out on the LCT-6 , I was looking at mine the other night and noticed that the little U shaped pieces that represent ladder runs on different tower sections on the landing craft are all broken in the middle .

I'll probably have to make some type of jig and make lots of replacement ones from strip wire .

                       John .

Thanks John, it is hopefully the first of many tanks.  Hopefully, I will start to get some paint on the LVT soon.  I am going to apply some lessons learned from the Easy 8 though!

Thanks for the heads up on the FR 47, Dr. Win.  I agree with John, it would look real nice sitting next to my SH Firefly, if I actually ever get around to building it, that is. 

While picking up some Quickboost k14 gun sights for a winged project, I impulse bought an Italeri M110A2 8inch self propelled gun, in 35th no less!  Bad influences, you guys are!  That sounded rather Yodaish, but I guess I am okay as long as I don't  buy any panzers.  Once you've done that, then you've definetly drank the proverbial cool-aid.  Plus, it was only $15.

Cheers,

Greg

Greg, was having a browse through the Hannants site last night looking to see when the MPM/Special hobby Sunderland is due but found it is Special hobby that is also kitting the Seafire FR47...

Draken, I don't ever remember seeing that Jap 75 at the war memorial museum, must be newish addition. Has anyone else heard or seen any photos of leftover IJAAF Ki 43/44 being used by PLAAF, NKPAF or ROKAF, I've seen it mentioned in a few places. Could make quite an interesting model...

Doc.

Nice score on the 1/35 M-110 A2 Greg , and for fifteen bucks ....awesome .

As much as I like building in 1/72 scale , I have purchased quite a few 1/35 Armor kits of late . A lot of the kits are only $5 to $10 more than the 1/72 scale , although there is much more choice's available for the IDF in 1/35 .

Anyway my 1/72 Centurion is about ready for the spraybooth along with all the wheels , side skirts and track cover pieces ;

I searched around the spares box for little bits to use on the top turret roof section , I filed down the gun barrel like Stik suggested and the mantlet came out okay I guess ;

I borrowed a tank figure from the Airffix LVT-4 Buffalo kit and I made some lids for those side box's that fit on the track covers ;

The lids look a little too thick , so I'll file and sand the underside of the lids for a thinner look .

I'll airbrush with some Tamiya XF-11 (JN Green) , hopefully it will be a close match to Humbrol 75 Bronze Green .

Overall I'm happy how the Centurion has worked out so far , I did spend quite a while trying to find small parts to use on the turret roof section , perhaps next time I should use the original roof piece and just add some plastic strip to the outer edges and file / sand to shape .

It's like Greg say's , just apply the lessons learned for the next Centurion build ......

                               John .

BTW , Why is it that the Hobby stores always seem to have an endless supply of Panzer Tanks and Focke-Wulf aircraft kits ! Despite my ancestors arriving in Australia in 1886 from Germany , I have never had the desire to build anything from the Axis side ...............

Thanks Doc for your words regarding the passing of my mother. I am glad you like the Centurion also. That tank is growing on me even as it sits on the shelf.

Greg, beautiful little Sherman! Is it possible for you to get one more pic with a bit better lighting to do it justice? Perhaps a front 3/4 view to show off those markings? Great score on the 1/35 M110A2. I have been wanting one of those for years for my 5th ID collection (my first unit of assignment after AIT way back when). I have the Vietnam M110, but the A2 is almost always out of my price range or I dont have the money when I find a good priced one.

Helo, very impressive (and quick) work on your Centurion Mk.3!!!! Tamiya IJN Green should be a reasonable substitute for Bronze Green. I am looking forward to seeing it come together under a coat of paint.

Well I resumed work on my F9F yesterday but had issues with the paint. I will see what I can do with it on my days off this week, starting tomorrow.

Helo, can you not get Humbrol 75 out in Oz? If you need any give me a shout... I think my next build for this forum is going to be the Monogram HU-16 Albatross. Pulled it out of the stash today and the box is getting a bit squished, time to build it before parts get crushed! This one could be a slow one with the current demands on my time though...

Doc

John, the Centurion is looking good.  If I didn't know better, I'd think it came from the factory that way, and you just painted some stripes!  With all of that blended under the green, it is going to look great!

Stik, I will try again on the pictures.  Makes me wonder if my phone might take better ones?

Doc Win, Special Hobby?  That sounds good!

As for Japanese/unique equipment, I'll bet there was considerable use, it is just a matter of finding the reference.  I remember reading about Pete floatplanes seeing service somewhere in SEA into the '50s.  I have read about unconfirmed use of Chinese use US equipment, and Russian lend lease stuff.  Mainly, Bell Cobras, but the author doubted it.  The Motorbooks Air War Korea book I am reading now, mentions La-7 use a lot.  No photos though.  That would be cool, because the Hobbyboss La-7 is cheap and readily available (and the cobra for that matter).  Good luck Doc on your quest for unique subjects.  I find that kind of stuff terribly interesting.  Before this GB, I didn't know what an Auster AOP was, and I didn't know what a Yak-18 looked like.  And I'm sure there are others.  I think most people think the whole air war was Sabres and Mig 15s.  Not that they aren't great in their own right.  I also am glad that I have learned more about the Commonwealth and UN forces involvement.  There are several books on personal accounts of the war that are on my to read list.  Unfortunately, with paramedic school looming in a few weeks, my reading and building are going to be greatly curtailed.

I am with John about the panzers and Fw's.  Not that I don't appreciate that we all have different tastes.  Actually, I think the variety in this hobby is one of its many great points.  It is just that it gets old that the manufacturers take the safe, way already travelled road on those subjects.  I guess it is just frustrating that you can get new kits of Luft '46 or Wermacht '46 that never flew or drove, but you have to kit bash or use an ancient kit for an F-86A.  Hmm.  Just my two cents, and I hope I didn't offend anybody.  Like I said, I really like the diversity, and appreciate that we all have different tastes

Looking forward to seeing more!  I ordered my base kit for my attempt at an M32 today.  Good hunting, gentlemen.

Cheers,

Greg

Greg, the Seafire  was in the future releases section on the Hannants site. I'm going to be keeping an eye out for it as well. I always like finding out the more interesting and esoteric stuff, its nice to fill in the gaps in a story. Suppose its being an archaeologist in real life that does it!  I have my Korean war model collection as I'd want it were I a museum curator .Though I do like to see good primary evidence for unique subjects, preferably a photo or written accounts from more than one written source which can be cross referenced. take this example - 

http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww2/f/768/82/0/1 Pkhenijan airport, early 1950s. Aircraft in non-flying state. It carried leavings of Japanese camouflage. Profile based on verbal description of Soviet technicians.  I know the Thais were still flying 'Oscars' in the 1950s much to the horror of US officials there!

Doc

Hi Guys:

I taped together the P-80 to make sure I had enough nose weight in ... had to add another 1/4 oz in the nose gear bay ...

As you can see from the photos, the fit of the fuse and wing - to - fuse joints is simply  terrible ... I can't remember having a kit with fit this bad !! ... another reason for not having the fuse in 4 parts as well ...

Have had weekend company since Friday, but they're on their way home in the morning, so I can get back to the Shooting Star ...

I've also started on the Bell -47, building only the engine so far, but going through the instructions again to see where everything goes ... IMHO, the only 2 parts that aren't 'fiddly' are the big canopy and the main frame ...

We've a cooling trend coming our way - temps to drop to the 103 - 105 range for the next week, so painting on anything is still 'out' ...

pepper

Pepper , sorry to hear about the poor fit , especially the wing / fuselage join .

Hopefully it should come together without causing you too much Grief .

I picked up one of those 1/72 Armourfast M-36 Jackson Tank kits .

The gun barrel is rather plain looking and it doesn't look anything like the photo's in Squadrons Armor in Korea book ...

There is a spare barrel in the Trumpeter M26 Pershing Heavy Tank kit which looks a little closer to what is in Squadrons photo ;

I thought I could use the gun barrel on the right , instead ?

                          John .

Hey John,

I'd go ahead and use the one from the Pershing.  I'm looking at the kit picture you linked in and I'm wondering something.  Were there two manufacturers, two different marks of Jackson, or were they rebuilt post war?  The Armourfast kit is definitely the correct forward hull and gun for the WWII version of the M-36.  But it's lacking the hull mg and the muzzle brake of the KW version.  Id odes appear, but I'm not REALLY sure, that there's no hull MG in the glacis plate on that photo you linked in.  That's interesting...

Here's a link to someone's review of the Nitto/Fujimi kit (same one that I'd built), http://www.mondo72.com/Review-Nitto-M36.html and a link to pics of the vehicle at the Korean War Memorial Museum, http://sites.google.com/site/modelingthekoreanwarin172scale/home/ground-vehicles-of-the-korean-war/allied-armour/us-fighting-vehicles/m-36-jackson-photos-and-link-comment

I don't know what to think about this issue, as it's obvious that both versions of the tank existed and were used, but I have yet to find any information on why there's no designation change between them.  Nor can I find information as to when the guns might have been changed.  It's kinda frustrating!  The Nitto/Fujimi kit is the correct shape and armament with nice detail but the fit is horrifying.  The Armourfast is a beautiful looking kit that probably goes together great but has the wrong glacis plate and gun. 

What to do?

Andy , your correct about the missing mini gun from the front glacis plate , which is a little disappointing .

Actually , it was a couple of weeks ago that I was looking on your web site and I made a list of some armor vehicles that were missing from my collection . I didn't bid any higher on those Nitto M30 and M36 kits that were listed on ebay , I dropped out at $15 , they eventually sold $16 .

I'm looking at some Nitto M7B1 Priests , do they have an engine included ?

I did buy a couple of Matchbox M7's and I'm waiting on those to arrive as well as some GMC M-40's

ebay have an all metal M-18 Tank destroyer , it's hard to tell but it looks similar to the Armourfast style of kits , except in metal ; MMS is the company that makes the M-18 , their asking $20 including shipping , so I'm thinking about that .

Greg mentioned he saw some of those M7 Priests on ebay too , I see the IDF used them as well , however some web sites state that the Israeli's made modifications to the rear deck on the M7's but they don't say what type of changes ?

There's a M12 Motor Carriage for $27 + $18 postage , were they used in the KW ? ; $45 does seem a little steep for a 1/76 kit !!!

I saw the listing on Hannants web site for those Seafire FB-47 kit that Doc Winn mentioned , for some reason I can't add one to my "watch list" , It's only listed as future release .

Also Andy , on your web site you have the M2 155mm Long tom Gun , is that the 1/72 Hasegawa kit ?

I couldn't see any more 1/76 Nitto M30's or M36's , I'm starting to wish that I should of kept bidding , especially on the M30 Cargo Carrier ......oh well .

                 John .

Helo H-34

Andy , your correct about the missing mini gun from the front glacis plate , which is a little disappointing .

I'm looking at some Nitto M7B1 Priests , do they have an engine included ?

Yes, I've built four (five?) of the Nitto/Fujimi kits already and they all had at least one style of engine included.  If it was incorrect, they had both.

Helo H-34

I did buy a couple of Matchbox M7's and I'm waiting on those to arrive as well as some GMC M-40's

The Matchbox M-7's are incorrect in a number of ways.  They have the wrong bogeys with return rollers in the center of the top and the pulpit isn't high enough.  They also need more ammo storage and there was something else wrong with them, I can't remember what.  The M-40 GMC's are INCREDIBLE!  I loved mine.  The sole drawback is that you can only display it in travelling configuration with the gun in the support.  I cut the hydraulic pistons on mine and put it in firing configuration, displayed with an M-30 behind it providing ammo.

Helo H-34

ebay have an all metal M-18 Tank destroyer , it's hard to tell but it looks similar to the Armourfast style of kits , except in metal ; MMS is the company that makes the M-18 , their asking $20 including shipping , so I'm thinking about that .

There's a M12 Motor Carriage for $27 + $18 postage , were they used in the KW ? ; $45 does seem a little steep for a 1/76 kit !!!

Well, you're in luck!  They weren't used in the conflict.  I had one source on line state that the M-18 was, but it turned out to be incorrect.  The M-12 was totally replaced by the M-40 in that theater.

Helo H-34

Also Andy , on your web site you have the M2 155mm Long tom Gun , is that the 1/72 Hasegawa kit ?

I couldn't see any more 1/76 Nitto M30's or M36's , I'm starting to wish that I should of kept bidding , especially on the M30 Cargo Carrier ......oh well .

I did use the Hasegawa M-2 Long Tom.  It's a wonderful kit, and you can use it with a piece of rod to make the shorter barreled 208mm gun.  I've got another one and some Plastruct rod to do that.

I did find one source for the Fujimi Jackson: http://www.internethobbies.com/fuj176usarm3.html The M-7:  http://www.greatmodels.com/~smartcart/cgi/search.cgi?termscat=Armor_Models_1/76+stock  And although they didn't have the Fujimi M-30 in stock, Track n Troops has some other SERIOUSLY awesome 1/76 armour.  INCLUDING AN M-44 105mm GMC!! http://tracks-n-troops.eu/shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=15_16&sort=4a&page=3

Basically, I just did a google search for Fujimi and then the vehicle designation.  I'm REALLY surprised at the lack of M-30 kits...  They were dime-a-dozen when I bought mine. 

Oh, well.  Hope that this helps!

Greg: Nice job on the Sherman, I too would like to see more photos if you can get your camera issues ironed out.

John and Pepper: Really nice work guys.

Doc Win: Welcome back, was wondering if we'd bored you and you left

Draken Andy: Concerning the M36 Jackson the lower hull was simular to the M10 tank destroyer. But in an attempt to get them into the field more quicky to take advantage of it's powerful 90mm gun during late WWII some Jackson turrets were mated with a M4 Sherman lower hull. I don't remember the different designation off hand but I'm sure a quick websearch should find it. I'd think you could build one of the Jackson/Sherman hybirds by adding the Jackson turret to a Sherman hull just as the US Army did.

And of Imperial Japanese hardware that ended up in Soviet bloc hands I've got a few photos in one of my Second World War Japanese tanks books of about thirty or more Japanese light tanks that the Soviets captured and handed over to Mao's reds to fight the legitimate Chinese government. I have no doubt some of this equipment ended up 'gifted' to the N. Koreans.

Gamera

Draken Andy: Concerning the M36 Jackson the lower hull was simular to the M10 tank destroyer. But in an attempt to get them into the field more quicky to take advantage of it's powerful 90mm gun during late WWII some Jackson turrets were mated with a M4 Sherman lower hull. I don't remember the different designation off hand but I'm sure a quick websearch should find it. I'd think you could build one of the Jackson/Sherman hybirds by adding the Jackson turret to a Sherman hull just as the US Army did.

The M4A3 Hull with an M36 turret was the M36B1. They saw limited service in WWII and that was about it. At some point. I believe hat the hull MG and later 90mm gun with the bore evacuator were fitted to M36s in rebuilds after WWII.

Ahhhh, thanks for clearing that up Stikpusher. Sorry about the confusion, when you mentioned the hull MG I just assumed you meant the M36B1 Sherman 'kitbash' version.