Automotive Group Build Nov 11, 2010 - June 10, 2011

Well here it is, a 1/24 Hasegawa Joest Racing Porsche 962C. It's got Studio 27 decals, modified to represent a 962C short tail as raced at the Silverstone 1000 in 1988. The Studio 27 set is for a long tail, as raced at Le Mans in the same year. The tyre sponsorship is Dunlop ratehr than Goodyear, these decals were sourced from other kits. The driver line up is different, so I made these decals using Microsoft Word and some clear decal paper. The banner across the windscreen is made from red decal stock and some lettering I pinched from another kit. The wheels are from another kit too. I've also added an antenna, some racing harnesses, the little fins on the front corners of the car, but that is about it. The only other additional work was to polish out the windscreen, as it was too scratched.

Aaron - I've completed my two builds listed on page one, I'll come back with another one shortly.

Cheers

Tony

and here is one of the Group C section of the cabinet

Very nice build Tony.  Good work.

Tony,

 That is an excellent CLEAN build there! Mighty impressive collection (that section?) too. I think you are safe from the "boots" now!

Thanks very much Bob and Mr Squid.

Tony,

 I came back just to appreciate your Porsche build again and better soak in the details and mods you made.

It is truly one clean, fine build.

I'm envious- wish I had one that good.

HI Mr Squid,

Thank you very much for your kind words.

Actually I set out at the start of this year to build a succession of car kits, just so that I could refine my techniques and then establish some consistency in my finishing approach and therefore results.

That Porsche is the 9th car kit I've completed this year, and it's probably starting to reflect what I was trying to achieve, although, to be honest, it is far from perfect, and is only a curbside.

It's interesting that I've been able to finish 9 this year, but I've only got 27 in total (including these 9) since I started building car kits in 1990. That being said, there have been a few figures, aircraft, ships, AFVs, and other assorted stuff too.

If you look at the photo of my car cabinet above,  one of the Silk Cut Jaguars near to the Porsche was built in 1990, all of the other Group C cars have been completed this year.

I'm going to decide on my next car build in the next few days. At the moment I am leaning towards another Group C car, or otherwise a quick build of a Heller 1/43 F1 Car. They did five of them originally, but I've worked out that you can actually complete 9 different cars by doing some simple conversions. I've got some of these planned in 1/20 (for example I converted a Lotus 99T to a 98T a little while ago) but it would be fun to knock some of these over as quick little 1/43 builds. The detail in these kits is so poor that  it's about all they're good for.

Cheers

Tony

Here I go again, this time it's Hasegawa Sauber MercedesC9 from the 1989 WSPC season, the first 'Silver Arrow' after their 33 year exile from motor racing. The team went on to win seven out of eight races and took the constructors and drivers championships with Jean-Louis Schlesser crowned champion.

The kit decals show it as raced at Suzuka in the first race of the season, that's good enough for me. The race was won by Schlesser and Mauro Baldi in the Mercedes.

Here's what you get:

Progress photos to come once I've started.

Cheers

Tony

Hi Everyone,

I've spent several days preparing the body and chassis for primer. Apart from a lot of cleaning up of ejection marks, sinkholes, rough edges and the usual stuff, I've fixed in some side panels, added the rear suspension and a few other odds and sods to the chassis, and fared in the rear panels of the body, which just didn't fit too well. Cyanoacrylate is used exclusively as the filler. The body has already received it's first coat of Tamiya grey primer, after I took these photos, but it's still wet.

The ejection pin marks and Hasegawa logo still visible on the last photo of the chassis are completely hidden once the model is put together, so I just haven't bothered.

cheers

Tony

Good work everyone!

Sorry I have not been model building the last few weeks so no WIP's from me. Probably early 2011 before I hit the Mercury. Have a 1/72 scale Hetzer that needs finishing and a street scene base to go along with it.

Did flip through the pages and it is very inspiring to say the least!

Keep on trucking... er model car building buddies!

Very nice group of racers you have going there.

I've been falling behind a bit in my duties here, work and cold weather have kind of put a damper on my enthusiasm. I've got the front page updated and hope to get more done on my projects.

Squid, I grew up in the SF Bay Area back when the phone company was simply Pacific Bell or more typically THE phone company. I really don't recall their trucks though, except for the current white trucks.

Tony, your 962 came out great.  That and the C9 are a couple of my all time favorites.  I have built the Tamiya versions, but not the Hase, although I have both in the stash.  You have great taste in cars for sure!

I should have some wip pictures by tomorrow of my mustang.

Cheers,

Greg

Would you accept a 68 GTO from the movie "My Science Project"?  I Have a couple of 72's that I have been wanting to build like the 68.  I'll sned pics when I can this weekend.  Let me know.  Thanks

Hi Phoneguy,

I'm not running the show here, but I would love to see another participant come on board.

Cheers

Tony

Phoneguy, a GTO would be fine, just let me know the scale and kit.

Hi Everyone,

Here is a quick status update on the Sauber Merc C9. The chassis and wheels have been sprayed flat black and the body has been sprayed Gloss Aluminium. I think I may put down a coat of gloss or two prior to decalling just to ensure good smoothness and also allow for some good old fashioned polishing if required later on.

I hope to photograph tomorrow once the paint is dry.

I too have both the Tamiya and Hasegawa kits,and also the Revell re-pop of the Hasegawa one. The bodys make an interesting comparison, I'll try to photograph that too.

For my money, the Tamiya kit is superior by quite a long way, but I'm saving it for one of those rare occasions when I feel like going for full detail. There is a lot of aftermarket available for it too.

For some reason, my current interest is attracted more to the variations in liveries of these racing cars rather than reproducing the full engine bay, cockpit and brake detail. I think that reason might be called the 'lazy streak', or maybe 'short span of attention'.

Cheers

Tony

I wouldn't call that lazy, just different priorities, and really which will be more noticable once it is on display. I think that is one of the (many) reasons I like 1/72 for aircraft, not a ton of hidden detail and they are small and cheap enough to allow me to build several of the same kit if there are many different paint schemes.

I'm gonna try to find a 68 gto.  I have two 72's.  May have to bash them and redo the hood, and front end to make it like the 68.  I would like to do it like the "My Science Project" gto tho.  The 72's are made by mpc and are in 1/25th scale.  will let you know more if i can find one or have to do alterations.  Hope that is still within the guidelines.  let me know please.

Are you going to include the raising light up finger in the back window? I haven't seen the movie in a longtime, but that stands out.

As long as it has wheels and goes vroom it should be good.

Hi Everyone,

Here are a couple of photos of the body, which I've painted with Tamiya aerosol gloss aluminium now. This is the colour recommended in the Tamiya kit instructions.. The photos of the chassis didn't work out, I'll post some more next time. It's just flat black at this stage, not too exciting.

Cheers

Tony

I forgot about that one.  I was planning on watching the movie to see what exactly i have to do.  I think the hand was in the other car tho, not the gto.

Yes, I have actually done something on this hunk of red plastic.  Some of the assemblies are simplified to the point, it would require major surgery to get them right.  Nice kit though, except for the red plastic!  Can you tell I hate colored plastic?

Tony, looking good on the C9.  I like that Tamiya gloss aluminum.  It is one of the few spray can paints I have had great success with.  I built the Tamiya version years ago.  It was a great kit.  I have another one that is in the stalled stage.  I did pick up the new Tamiya one half off recently.  I'm thinking about building them together.....

Better get back too it.

Cheers,

Greg

Got some more done on my Mustang.  Not a lot, but photographable.....

Back to the P-38!

Cheers,

Greg

Hi Greg,

I'm with you on the colored plastic thing, why do they do it ? I always end up priming heavily to hide it. I do most of my modelling late at night, when my eyes are tired, and dark coloured plastic is starting to give me some trouble. Nonetheless, your Mustang is coming along, I can see a that you are spending some time on the details too.  I like the way they build up with the chassis and roll cage, I might have to go there.

In the meantime I decalled the Merc today. After several glitches with earlier builds of these Hasegawa Group C cars, I'd sworn off their decals and determined to use aftermarket where ever possible. That strategy has been working well, until, , I got sucked in again. They've all gone on perfectly, but for some reason the blue stripes on the sides became really rough in texture. I thought they were breaking up, but they didn't.. After multiple iterations of heat, pressure, Super Set , Sup Sol and bad language, I think I've got them down flat enough that I can put a few coats of clear over them and polish it out where necessary. However, you can make out how bad it is within the NACA duct, I'll have to get those out and paint it I think. It happened on both sides, and only to the blue part of the decal...go figure. All other decals were just fine. You may also notice that the bottom edge of the blue decal is a little uneven, but its right on a panel line and can be trimmed and tidied up easily enough.

As far as those blue stripes goes, the silver C9s raced at many venues with out it. To my eye, the car is more aesthetically pleasing without it too. However, the research I've  done so far is indicating that Suzuka was the only race where the car had the front centre panel as depicted in the Hasegawa kit, and silver liverie. It also had those blue stripes. Think I'm stuck with it.

This version raced a few times in 1988 in AEG Circuit Board liverie too. If you want to see the difference, compare the front centre panel of the car on the Tamiya box lid above, with this front centre panel below. On the Tamiya kit, the front panel is larger, and that air scoop (I guess that's what it is) is situated in the middle of the panel, immediately above the red AEG (it's a little hard to see). On the Hasegawa kit, the panel is smaller, the air scoop juts out above it. It raced like this at a few races in 1988, and only at Suzuka in 1989. I have to check my Revell Kouros C9 as well, because it was based on the Hasegawa kit, so may well have the smaller panel. However, the car raced with Kouros liverie in 1987, and I haven't found any photos showing the car being raced in this configuration during 1987. I may have to stick my Kouros decals onto a Tamiya body.

BTW, there is a Studio 27 decal sheet, featuring the Kouros liverie, and also one where Michelin was the major sponsor. It was discontinued so long ago though, I haven't been able to find one.

Here is the rest of the progress shots.

I haven't picked up that version of the Tamiya C9 kit as yet, getting one at half price would be ideal. However, in line with my earlier comment, I do have the Studio 27 decal sheet for it on order.

Tony, it looks really good!  Sorry about that blue in the naca duct though.  I will certainly beware of hase's decals.  The Michelin version is an alternate decal in the recent RoG reboxing.  I plan on doing that version at some point, as it is really cool and I love the bright metallic blue.  I was actually thinking about kitbashing the Tamiya with the Hase to make a full detailed version of it.  It is those types of grandiose plans that get me in trouble!

It is sometimes hard to accurately reflect a specific car, so I feel your pain on that one.  I didn't realize Hase paints you into a corner with that boxing.  I think Tamiya got the nose right on this modified re-issue, but I think they may have gotten the uprights for the wing wrong.  I have a book on the C9 somewhere that I will break out before I begin.  I have a silver Tamiya that I started a couple of years ago, that needs finishing too.  On that one, I opened the doors, and nose, painted it, and not much else.  You've inspired me to get going on one as soon as I clear some room.

Cheers,

Greg

Hi Greg,

Many thanks for the tip on the Michelin decals. That's a huge favor, it saves me a long, possibly fruitless search and probably a premium price.

All I need is another Revell C9 (just got a cheap one off ebay). I've also opened the one I've got. The way they get around the difference in front panels is to give you a square of clear plastic, and a drawing with some dimensions to cut it out to. I've never seen that approach on a mainstream kit before, but it should be OK.

They recommend a mix of two Revell colours to make the blue, but mixing colours is another thing that I avoid, particularly if I am going to build 3 models (AEG circuit board, Kouros and Michelin) which should have exactly the same colour. I see that Tamiya also recommend a mix for this colour too.

Zero paints make a matched colour for it. I've never tried them, but I've heard good things, so I think I'll give it a go.  

Cheers

Tony

Thanks Tony, that is good info.  I've heard good things about Zero brand paints too.  I am unsure if anybody carries that line in the U.S..  Can you get it locally, or do you have to order it internationally too?  I did find my book on the C9.  Now I need to hurry up and finish my mustang, so I can start on my Saubers! 

Cheers,

Greg

Hi Greg,

I've ordered mine from Hiroboy in the UK. I also ordered their clear and some Jagermeister orange. The postage hurts though. I don't know of anywhere else that stocks it (yet).

I'll rashly state that I'll build one of these next, so I can report on how they go, or maybe, how I go with them..

Cheers

Tony

Well tonight I haven't really felt in the zone, so I've just done some of the hack work. The good thing is I've got a jar of Humbrol #15, which looks like a pretty good match to the troublesome blue decals. I'll clean up the decals in those NACA ducts before spraying the clear coats, then paint the NACA ducts once all the polishing is completed. Tamiya TS-13 destroys Humbrol enamel, so I'll have to go in that order. It's too windy to spray here tonight,  it just puts a few dust particles into the air around my spraying bench in the garage.

There is one other liverie for the C9 that I'd like to attempt:

http://www.racingsportscars.com/photo/1987/Norisring-1987-06-28-061.jpg

http://www.racingsportscars.com/photo/1987/Norisring-1987-06-28s-061.jpg

http://www.racingsportscars.com/photo/1987/Norisring-1987-06-28s-063.jpg

These are the only photos I've found. I don't know of any decals and haven't been able to google any.

I really need a better side on photo, then I can assess whether it's achievable using available decals for the minor sponsors possibly with some home made ones for the 'SAT Additive' and 'JK' logos. The other possibility is to source these decals from some decal sheet that is intended for another make of car, but once again, I haven't found any (yet).

I think this would then cover all of the main liveries worn by the C9 in anger.

Cheers

Tony

Tony, interesting livery.  I haven't seen that one before.  Have you ever gone to stradasports.com?  They are one of my favorites for endurance/F1 model parts.  They don't have those decals, just some WSPC Suzuka silver scheme, and the Michelin man scheme.  They do have some really nice p.e. sets for both Hase/Revell, and the Tamiya.  There is a set for the Tamiya that comes with resin brake calipers.  It looks sweet.  Gotta go put my kids to bed, hope you have a good one.

Cheers,

Greg

Hi Greg,

My kids have just gone to bed.

I often purchase from Kevin at Strada. I'd say it is probably my favorite place for the 'exotic' stuff other than mainstream kits. My ridiculous decal collection is partly his fault ! I should add that I enjoy dealing with M&S Hobbies too. Sometimes I have to go far and wide to get hold of that hard to find piece though.

Cheers

Tony