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Posted by bobbaily on Tuesday, February 8, 2011 6:33 PM

Hans/Stik-where does the new/recent release of the B-26 Marder fall?

Bob

 

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Tuesday, February 8, 2011 6:51 PM

The current Revell release of the B-26 Marauder is a GO, Bob..... I figured it was, since there'd been no scuttlebutt about a "New" B-26 in the past couple years, but I checked Revell on-line as well, and after looking at the instruction sheet, determined it to be the same kit as the 1978s release of the Monogram B-26 kit, "Flak-Bait" and the later "Yankee Guerilla"...

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Posted by bobbaily on Tuesday, February 8, 2011 7:45 PM

Thank you sir......now I have at least one option.

I found a 1/24 Porsche 904 in a white Monogram box on Ebay.  Do you know if that is a true Monogram kit or if it is a 'rebox' and therefore a NoGo?

Bob

 

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Posted by MrSquid2U on Tuesday, February 8, 2011 8:37 PM

bobbaily

Thank you sir......now I have at least one option.

I found a 1/24 Porsche 904 in a white Monogram box on Ebay.  Do you know if that is a true Monogram kit or if it is a 'rebox' and therefore a NoGo?

 

This happened to remind me of an observation from long ago: Monogram was the only domestic kit maker (it seemed?) that chose 1/24 over 1/25 for autos? There were some things I liked more about this scale. Basically that it was noticably bigger than 1/25th which made it easier for me at least to hand paint lil details like fender badges and such. But liking a consistent scale while on display I always had my Monogram cars set to one side apart from all the rest of my cars. Nowadays when I see a Revell kit that I recall as a subject being "old" I still glance at the scale and when I see 1/24 instead of 1/25 I can expect it started as a Monogram from back in the day. I just always found that "odd" if you will?Huh?

       

 

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Posted by Aaronw on Tuesday, February 8, 2011 8:40 PM

At least with the cars if the kit is 1/24, it is probably a real Monogram kit. Most of the other American model makers were using 1/25. Japanese and European kit makers frequently use 1/24, but I don't think there was as much reboxing of car kits like there was with aircraft.

Using the scale doesn't work as well in reverse, some later Monogram boxings say 1/25 but they are the same 1/24 kits issued years earlier, just a change in scale on the box to make them appear more compatable with Revell kits. 

 

Squid you posted as I was typing, great minds and all that. Stick out tongue

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Posted by mississippivol on Tuesday, February 8, 2011 10:11 PM

Well, allrighty, then! Put me in for the Magnesium Overcast: 1/72 B-36. I hope you'll count it as two (it has six props and 4 jets), but if not, and since Monogram is known for it's NASCAR kits, my second choice will be the Dale Earnhardt '87 Monte Carlo kit from 2002. Not to worry though, the Monte Carlo was released in the early '80's, but updated for the Aeroback version later on. Hard to believe Dale's been gone 10 years this next February 18th.

Glenn

OK, someone; get that B-52 kit out and let's carpet bomb some "shake and bakes"!

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Posted by bondoman on Tuesday, February 8, 2011 10:15 PM

Peacemaker fits the theme, no?

 

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Posted by bondoman on Tuesday, February 8, 2011 10:19 PM

Godfather, I'd like to put in for cook of the outfit. Never know when you're gonna have to feed twenty guys.

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Posted by vetteman42 on Tuesday, February 8, 2011 11:28 PM

Hans von Hammer if you please may I join up with 2 Monogram kits ? Both would be cross overs  and one needs an AM ejection seat, that would be the 1/48 Monogran F-15A Eagle built as the Streak Eagle. The other will be the old and great Monogram P-51D in 1/48 scale built as the air racer Risky Business. It will be a tough push to get them both done but I will give it my best shot.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by fermis on Tuesday, February 8, 2011 11:36 PM

I assist in the kitchen, if Sir Bondo 'll have me.

Bacon wrapped backstrap and shkrimps...MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

 

Stopped by the LHS and picked up another T-6 (and a Hase Shinden). It'll be a couple weeks before I can get going though!

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Tuesday, February 8, 2011 11:53 PM

You guys are making me hungry...

Godfather Spaghetti Gravy

 

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Posted by bondoman on Tuesday, February 8, 2011 11:55 PM

That's looking good up top Jeremy, but the lower half won't please the boys...not Kosher, and gotta keep the fellas from over on Manhattan in the game.

But it's good to have a guy on the pots wit' me. Fish on Fridays and I told the Godfather I'd put up meals when we go to the mattresses.

Monogram mattresses of course.

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Wednesday, February 9, 2011 1:39 AM

bobbaily

Thank you sir......now I have at least one option.

I found a 1/24 Porsche 904 in a white Monogram box on Ebay.  Do you know if that is a true Monogram kit or if it is a 'rebox' and therefore a NoGo?

As others have pointed out, the kit being in 1/24th scale makes me 99.99% sure it's a Monogram, yupper... The "white box" nails the rest of it..

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Wednesday, February 9, 2011 1:48 AM

vetteman42

Hans von Hammer if you please may I join up with 2 Monogram kits ? Both would be cross overs  and one needs an AM ejection seat, that would be the 1/48 Monogran F-15A Eagle built as the Streak Eagle. The other will be the old and great Monogram P-51D in 1/48 scale built as the air racer Risky Business.

Ok, Vetteman.. I don't care what you do to them as far as AM/Scratchbuilding, kitbashing, as long as the base kit is an original Monogram kit. The whole idea is show them folks out there that the Monogram Mafia doesn't need "shake & bakes" to show our stuff, that we can turn out a beautiful model with the "inferior" Monogram kits,and that a "12.00 kit-builder" is a threat to the person who relies on his wallet to build a kit...

It will be a tough push to get them both done but I will give it my best shot.

You give it your best shot or I give you MY best shot, eh? Dead

Wink

 

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Posted by taxtp on Wednesday, February 9, 2011 2:07 AM

I've got a Monogram Porsche 904 in the stash. It's kit number 2954. The body has an inscription to the effect of Copyright Monogram Models Inc 1992.

Cheers

Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by bobbaily on Wednesday, February 9, 2011 6:06 AM

Re: Porsche 904-Thank you all for your input.  Now I just have to make sure that no one out bids me.....

Bob

 

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Posted by p38jl on Wednesday, February 9, 2011 8:29 AM

Hans,, don't start stealing your med supplies for scratch building, untill your RELEASED from the Hospital.. !! lol.  ok ?? ....Yes

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Posted by B17Pilot on Wednesday, February 9, 2011 8:57 AM

I would really like to join in here, but I couldn't start on mine till April.  Will follow along though.

  

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Posted by vonBrakken on Wednesday, February 9, 2011 10:01 AM

Count me in with a 1/48 F-4J Mig Ace and a 1/48 Skyraider.

In the hanger: 1/48 Tamiya A6M2 Zeke

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Posted by the Baron on Wednesday, February 9, 2011 11:45 AM

Hans von Hammer

Ok, Baron.. Did some checking and the 1979 "White-Box" release of the A-7 is indeed an Ex-Aurora kit, at least according "Modeling MadnessDOT com" 's review of it...  

Good catch... Not being a "Jet guy", I need to check a little harder, lol.. Shoulda suspected it, since their never was a 60's release of it, nor did they ever do a real "box-art" type of release in the 80s..

 

EDIT:  Upon further reviews, and a took jog around the net, it appears that Monogram retooled the molds for the Aurora A-7A Corsair II, but the A-7E, boxed as a Revell kit, isn't Aurora's kit, but rather an ex-Hasegawa mold..  Doesn't change anything though.. Both versions are ineligible..

 

Grazie, Padrone!  My source for any of these kit origins is Graham's books on Monogram, Revell and Aurora, good info on Monogram and Revell kits up to the merger, at which point, he stopped his research (and his kit catalog).  It's a gap that needs to be filled, I think, because look at how much confusion we've got about the 90's releases?

As an aside, the Aurora Corsair was considered by some to be the best kit they ever produced.

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

 

 

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Wednesday, February 9, 2011 12:39 PM

bondoman

Godfather, I'd like to put in for cook of the outfit. Never know when you're gonna have to feed twenty guys.

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm150/6134rdm/DSC_0397.jpg

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Santa Madre! MANGIA!

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Wednesday, February 9, 2011 1:10 PM

p38jl

Hans,, don't start stealing your med supplies for scratch building, untill your RELEASED from the Hospital.. !! lol.  ok ?? ....Yes

I already grabbed a new supply of gloves and those cone-shaped things they attach to the light to look in you ears and nose with.. Dunno what I need 'em for, but I'll need 'em someday... If nothing else, they'll make great funnels and viscosity cups for paint mixing...

I'm ALWAYS on the lookout for stuff like that...

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Wednesday, February 9, 2011 1:19 PM

It's a gap that needs to be filled, I think, because look at how much confusion we've got about the 90's releases

Oh, no doubt about THAT...  The 90's and late 80's era of kits were driving me nuts... Especially the ProModeler series, since the kits in thse boxes were coming from everywhere, lol...  And, not all that many were even Monogram kits in the first place..  Basically, we're looking at kits that were in Monogram boxes from 1986 and back, 1886 being the year of the merger...   Didn't help that Monogram started putting their logo back on things that weren't originally theirs, lol.. 

 

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Wednesday, February 9, 2011 1:22 PM

taxtp

I've got a Monogram Porsche 904 in the stash. It's kit number 2954. The body has an inscription to the effect of Copyright Monogram Models Inc 1992.

Cheers

Tony

So Tony, you in with that, or were you just letting Bob know that the kit was ok?

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Wednesday, February 9, 2011 1:25 PM

B17Pilot

I would really like to join in here, but I couldn't start on mine till April.  Will follow along though.

Ahh, pull a couple down from the shelf, cut a part off a sprue, or maybe add a little flat black to a part still on the sprue, and you're "started"...

 

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Wednesday, February 9, 2011 1:25 PM

bobbaily

Re: Porsche 904-Thank you all for your input.  Now I just have to make sure that no one out bids me.....

Lemme know when you get it...

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Wednesday, February 9, 2011 1:27 PM

beav

 Hans von Hammer:

The Hawk and Corporal are ex-Renwal kits, if I'm not mistaken, and the Hunter is a Revell-Germany product that also was released under the Revell/Monogram label, but was released post-Revell/Monogram merger... 

Hate to be a stickler, but after all, it's "Monogram Mafia"...  Just like the real Mafia, which traces your roots back to the "Old Country" in order to be a "made" man, the kit has to be able to be traced back to an original Monogram release in order to be "made"...

 

 

Confused  Renwal sucks.  But I completely understand.

Come up wit' anything else yet?

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Posted by kustommodeler1 on Wednesday, February 9, 2011 2:03 PM

As a builder, now 47 years young, I got to confess I was an automotive builder hot and heavy for years before I ever picked up the first aircraft kit.

 

There are times that 1/24 in Revell boxing is not originally Monogram. Some are domesticated Revell Germany kits, like my Ferrari 612 Scaglietti. One would be pretty safe with all the older American muscle kits though, like those listed on Revell's website.

Darrin

Setting new standards for painfully slow buildsDead

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Posted by vonBrakken on Wednesday, February 9, 2011 2:03 PM

Here is my start on the Skyraider.

In the hanger: 1/48 Tamiya A6M2 Zeke

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Posted by taxtp on Wednesday, February 9, 2011 2:40 PM

Hans von Hammer

 

 taxtp:

 

I've got a Monogram Porsche 904 in the stash. It's kit number 2954. The body has an inscription to the effect of Copyright Monogram Models Inc 1992.

Cheers

Tony

 

 

So Tony, you in with that, or were you just letting Bob know that the kit was ok?

Hi Hans,

I was trying to assist Bob. You can put me down for a Bugatti 35B, at least until I change my mind or manage to get my paws on an Aston Martin DB4. The Bugatti is in the 'white box' and is copyright to Monogram 1978, BTW.

Cheers

Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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