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One Year War GB 2011-2012 !Extended time! 30sept 2012

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Posted by bsyamato on Tuesday, December 13, 2011 4:39 AM

possible paint craking when you move the ms, i have the zaku from the same series (but also the fly gouf ,gouf custom, the same ez and two ground gundam, but ione the newest and perfect hguc) with similar problem

even if placed in a diorama he's movable,  i sanded hard the knee to do a little space between pieces (best way is to place a roundel between pieces) then paint it and after glued the two halves of upper legs.

Also i use enamels that are stronger than acrilycs for this use.

on the fly gouf instead i used another tip on the elbow joint

as you see i used a scratched  cover with plastic sheet using other rotation joint from my magazine i have lots of spare from other kits, bandai put on the kits often the same soft plastic sprues and you will have soon a large number of these pieces

Another example of cover on the hguc guncannon, i replaced original soft plastic large joints with litter ones, and covered with plastic, the advantage is to manage sub assemblies in better way when you paint it, and also don't need to paint the soft plastic that is hard to keep the paint on

know is a drastic method but the result is good Big Smile

 

 

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Tuesday, December 13, 2011 10:06 AM

Bys, you could make a pretty penny scratch building those knee coveres for the different kits and selling them.  I'd kill to have those instead of the ugly polycaps.

Right now im trying to figure what I can use to replace the ugly plastic elbow and knee joints on Ma.k kits to make it look like cloth

 

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Posted by bsyamato on Tuesday, December 13, 2011 11:51 AM

LOL Big Smile i can consider this employment if my actual work turn bad, need to learn about resin cast .

Which problem with Ma K kits joints, rubber pieces? i also have a patlabor series alphonse to build with rubber covers, i will fix it in a pose and replace the rubber covers with milliput ones.

today primed lots of other Gouf skeleton pieces.. how many... ten pieces at day probably Dead

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Posted by Real G on Tuesday, December 13, 2011 12:01 PM

Smeagol,

I used some old umbrella fabric, sewed into little tubes for one of my MaK builds:

PKA H0 5

I loosely coiled some thin wire and slipped it under the fabric to keep it from collapsing.  If you were ambitious, you could sew little shirts and pants to represent the flexible coverings.  The Patlabor kits Bsyamato mentioned could really use them.  Umbrellas come in all kinds of colors, so it should not be hard to find tan or grey ones to use.  The only downside is that you have to know how to use a sewing machine!

“Ya ya ya, unicorn papoi!”

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Tuesday, December 13, 2011 7:18 PM

Oh that looks fantastic!  Im going to try that once christmas comes.  I got two Mak kits from HLJ

 

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Posted by bsyamato on Wednesday, December 14, 2011 3:55 AM

Magnific solution Real G Bow Down my labor probably is too little for this tipe of mod, is 1/60 scale, about 10-12 cm tall. Also in mind an humoristic diorama with it ,then a fixed pose Big Smile, a labor saving a little cat for an old woman , just an idea Propeller

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Posted by Real G on Wednesday, December 14, 2011 1:18 PM

Smeagol,

Sharing is caring!  Cool  Don't you love it when guys on the modeling forums infect each other with ideas?

 

Bsyamato,

The fabric elbow covers for the MaK suit was approximately the diameter of an Xacto knife handle, so I think you could make Patlabor "pants" and such.  I will need to do the same in the future for a 1/60 JGSDF Helldiver.  That one will need a "shirt" too, as the body has exposed areas that need flexible covers where the arms are attached.

I think the ground based mobile suits would also look great with canvas dust covers, especially around the ankles.  It would make sense, especially since most of them have thrusters on the feet or under the lower leg armor.  I'd hate to be the mechanic that had to yank stuck branches and rocks from the actuators on the feet of a mobile suit.

“Ya ya ya, unicorn papoi!”

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Posted by bsyamato on Thursday, December 15, 2011 11:23 AM

Unfortunately no mechanic have this risk Big Smile have again little time before to see real great mechs.

Hope to start a Mech GB next year really wishing to see your helldiver in, so we can steal the tecnique Stick out tongue

I have one (probably 1/48) soft vinyl kit really old

was the only mech kit i had for many years Black Eye want to take more picture, probably one of few kits never pictured after digital era.

 

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Thursday, December 15, 2011 10:47 PM

I think... this is the first time I have ever... EVER... sided with the federation...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nzpChbJfrCY#!

 

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Posted by Geist on Thursday, December 15, 2011 11:21 PM

That stop motion was pretty impressive.

 

 

I'm done! I'm really happy with how my first one turned out. Before I get to the finished pics here are some more progress pics.

 

I ended up using Gamesworksop inks to highlight recesses, panels etc.

I decided that I was going to use Shiro's battle with Packard as inspiration for my weathering/battle damage. I used a soldering iron to achieve the the finger gatling bullet holes and shield gatling damage as well as the slash damage. 

I then used a pencil and went over the edges of all surfaces to show wear.

For final touches I gave it a very light burnt umber wash and then used MIG Pigments rubble dust to replicate the dusting the Ez8 from fighting in the city. With that it's done!

Feeling lucky punk?

 

I'm going to start my Gouf Flight Type in the next couple of days.

 

 

Erik

On the bench: Italeri Leopard 1A2 correction build with Perfect Scale turret and Eduard PE

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Thursday, December 15, 2011 11:25 PM

Ok, so I like it, but those games workshops have the problem I thought they would have.

 

they are WAY to dark and WAY to thick.  Its only suposto get into the CORNERS of the recess or else it looks severely to dark.  Its suposto represent shadows that would happen naturally in a real size, but since its so small you have to do it.

 

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Posted by Geist on Thursday, December 15, 2011 11:33 PM

I agree. I'm going to experiment with thinning it before I use them again plus get some finer brushes.

 

 

Erik

On the bench: Italeri Leopard 1A2 correction build with Perfect Scale turret and Eduard PE

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Thursday, December 15, 2011 11:36 PM

Dont brush them in.  For it to work right you NEED absolutely NEED to use a wash.

 

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Posted by bsyamato on Friday, December 16, 2011 4:06 AM

Very well done for the first gundam kit YesYes i'll update re roster, some preference for the wall picture?

i'm thinking to put this

 

I'm not good with acrilycs, wash and white mobile suit Tongue Tied i tried two times with bad results

then i left acrilycs and returned on my own enamel way and mainly zeon green or dark colored subjects Whistling

 

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Posted by bsyamato on Friday, December 16, 2011 4:16 AM

Read the news now, the 1/1 scale gundam returned! Mounted on Odaiba (no idea where is.. a Tokyo zone?)

here the full building pictures

http://www.dannychoo.com/post/en/26352/Gundam+Returns+to+Odaiba.html

whishing to see the char's zaku as the real gundam Angel

 

smeagol the vile

I think... this is the first time I have ever... EVER... sided with the federation...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nzpChbJfrCY#!

LOL lots of patience there

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Posted by bsyamato on Friday, December 16, 2011 11:01 AM

Updated the finished list!

Geist, tell me if you prefere another picture for the wall Yes

Today starting to drybrush some gouf skeleton piece and closed one of the legs, today tomorrow will post some pictures, the leg movement seems good Propeller

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Posted by Geist on Friday, December 16, 2011 11:50 AM

I like the one you chose. Yes

 

 

 

Erik

On the bench: Italeri Leopard 1A2 correction build with Perfect Scale turret and Eduard PE

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Posted by Klik on Friday, December 16, 2011 5:28 PM

Small update on MS-06.

FINALLY found a cable that fit nearly perfect, and have super-glued it into the 'holes' for the original tubing. Will paint and post pics soon.

Klik

oneyearwar1

The hardest part of flying isn't flying...it's landing.

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Saturday, December 17, 2011 2:18 AM

bsyamato

 

 

 

 

 smeagol the vile:

 

I think... this is the first time I have ever... EVER... sided with the federation...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nzpChbJfrCY#!

 

 

LOL lots of patience there

 

 

Very much so, but you do whatever you have to do to protect Fluttershy

 

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Posted by bsyamato on Saturday, December 17, 2011 4:48 AM

Nice to hear that Klik Cool we need more zakus on the wall

pictures about a dry brush night on the gouf

Forget to post this before, i heat formed new screens for the cockpit

a good matt black stock, notice the sprayng color on the workbench, due to the high thinned colors brushed with strength, not softly

so the drybrushing of finished primed pieces and the build

used silver, aluminium and matt red for drybrush

legs

and arms

and all pieces, these needs only some more details painted and fiished

soon more to come

 

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Saturday, December 17, 2011 12:25 PM

Im not sure about the silver/steel drybrushing.  It makes that metallic effect which is nice but I think a metallic color like gunmetal then hit with a semi-gloss sealant would work better, MAYBE

 

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Posted by Klik on Saturday, December 17, 2011 1:36 PM

Y'know Bsyamato, I showed my brother some of your progress pictures on the Gouf, how you built it all then demolished it for painting, and he brought up a very good question:

How on earth do you keep all those parts straight? I have enough trouble building it straight from the sprue.

Klik

oneyearwar1

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Posted by bsyamato on Saturday, December 17, 2011 4:20 PM

Smeagol, the gunmetal is yet to come Cool undecided if use the metalcoat ,fear about the trickness of this color.

Same thing for the sealant, keep in mind that the skeleton will be covered.

In all cases lots of retouch again to come Toast

Klik hope to understand good about your question .

As you know i'm a really slow builder, I brought the gouf about 2 years ago.... you're able to leave all these amount of pieces on the sprues for two years ? Big Smile me not.

The main problem of reverse project is the risk to break the snap pins, but if you glue the kit after you paint is not a problem, but there's a tip to keep the kit originals pins: when you built it for the first time keep the x-acto blade near and turn it on the male pin parts two or three times . So you can unbuilt easy the kits you just snapped Stick out tongue

Hope was usefully Toast

then some new pictures

Armor colors choice ,used for the light color the model master flat light blue darkened with about 5% of matt 25 from humbrol, the darker color is the pure 25 from humbrol: both high thinned, the under blue gray give a good start base for both colors

using two box for the various stages

lots of pieces again Boo Hoo

The conductors covers are lots of pieces... need to found where's the original rubber sprues used as aid and replace here for paint them

tomorrow more (or not Hmm )

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Saturday, December 17, 2011 5:48 PM

Klik, for the most part we are all veterans of building Gunpla.  a Gundam kit was my very first model.  You get to a point where you just know what part goes where.

Its also good to keep sub assemblies in the same area.

 

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Posted by Klik on Sunday, December 18, 2011 3:21 PM

Yep, I've only built 2.5 Gunpla Mobile Suits, and the skeletons all seem to have approximately the same parts. I'm just OCD about building them 'correctly' and follow the instructions to the letter, which is why I have yet to paint the skeletons (mostly, I just leave them unpainted--keeps the panels from falling off or not sitting flush, and they're already the right color).

Finished the Zaku, now I just need to dig out my camera (where did it go?). Pics soon...I swear!

Keep up the great work, especially you, Bsyamato--can't wait to see that Gouf Finished (is it the Custom version, with the sweet gatling-type gun on its arm?)

Klik

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Posted by bsyamato on Monday, December 19, 2011 5:01 AM

LOL Big Smile thanx Klik

Instructions must be even on table to not wrong something, me too even after snapped 3 kits based on the new zaku skeleton need to watch sometimes Yes Better thing to keep in mind is that bandai snapping system are almost perfect and sometimes ,even a very tiny layer of paint can influences some joint .

I'm not a gunpla veteran, i can accept scale aircraft builder veteran, probably the only gunpla veteran here is really Real G (someone build a gunpla before 1982 here?) . I just transfered on gunpla scale kits experience with some customs things. 

The gouf is the normal version, have the custom with gathling version too but is the older mg kit, i can expect from bandai that the custom version is yet to come (and hope so) . The same V2 skeleton can be used again for lots of subjects as the first Zaku I.

Almost finished the main painting on the Gouf, again to do the backpack and the head, a modified monoeye is needed Pirate

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Posted by DrShrinker on Monday, December 19, 2011 6:22 PM

so i finally uploaded these pics to my photo bucket. Most of the people i have shown this to have said the scene it portrays is in bad taste. Collecting heads of not just the mobile suits but their pilots as well and having a ceremony at the end of each day to celebrate that days victories.

/shrug

 

One question though. Are Feddie type mobile suits smaller than most Zeon mobile suits? Those three Gundam heads are all 1/100 scale, same as the Gelgoog, but they look kinda small. Or is the Gelgoog just a big sucker? The 1/100 Sazabi i built also seem much bigger.

 

enjoy

 

 

 

 

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Monday, December 19, 2011 11:59 PM

Zeon suits are more bulky.  They put alot more armaments on them as well as armor, the smaller the profile for a zeon suit the faster is blows up normally.  Also as it goes on they put more and more power into their thrusters and new tech that isn't always small.  The federation on the other hand refined what they had and kept it small and sleek.  Sort of like... Zeon working at the macro Federation working at the Micro.

 

Also Zeon quite likes things that SHOW power.  They often use mobile armors, which are suits the size of space ships, the Federation only had one, and it was something the GP03 could attach to and drop.  Mobile armors normally has a MASSIVE amount of armaments or an extremely strong weapon.  The Aspalus in 08th ms team is a perfect example of power, only had one weapon, a massive energy weapon that decimated entire armies with precision While the Zeong had a few different weapons.

 

As far as your Dio, the only thing I find is potrayed wrong is the era, the soldiers were not samurai and if anything Zeon is quite Nazi-esque, except their whole theory of a master race was, infact, correct.  Other then that I dont get the whole 'dont portray that stuff.  Its a war diorama, that kind of stuff happens in war.

 

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Posted by bsyamato on Tuesday, December 20, 2011 3:35 AM

Magnific diorama DR YesYesYes Weathering on the Gelgoog is great!

As smeagol speak the gelgog and other zeon mobile suits are greater than the federation suits, the only exception was the gp03 GP-02.... immediately stolen by zeon forces .. LOL

Only appoints is the samurai scale, i presume are 1/72 scale. Preiser if you intrested produce a box of unpainted figures in 1/100 hard plastic medium, easy to modify for MG dioramas, also some pilot and mechanics in space suit are avaible from .. wave smeagol?

Updating the wall with the huge diorama with this picture, tell me if you prefere another

PS the one year GB is going to 15.000 views Propeller honestly don't expect this result when started, even with gundam period restrictions, this forum is not really gundam oriented Whistling i'll prepare an high detailed image to celebrate the views , something serious obliviously Hmm

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Posted by DrShrinker on Tuesday, December 20, 2011 8:07 AM

Thanks for the info Smeagol. Keep in mind i have seen very few Gundam episodes, but the Zeon mobile suits always seem to remind me of Samurai armor and thought they looked kinda neat together.

bsyamato

Only appoints is the samurai scale, i presume are 1/72 scale. Preiser if you intrested produce a box of unpainted figures in 1/100 hard plastic medium, easy to modify for MG dioramas, also some pilot and mechanics in space suit are avaible from .. wave smeagol?

Yeah, the little samurai guys are 1/72. They are the first ones i've painted in almost 20 years.

I'd love a link to 1/100 scale mechanics and pilots if you have one. I think ive seen the Preiser figures, but i thought they were all civilians.

 

Anyway, it was a fun build. I have a couple other things to build before i get back to another Mobile suit. I have a 1/144 scale Sazabi to get to, but what i really want is a 1/100 Kampfer. Just waiting to find a good deal. Big Smile

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