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  • From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posted by zokissima on Friday, March 12, 2004 5:57 AM
Thanks for the heads-up Martian. Most of the Trumpeter kits I've built, I've had problems with skirts, but thankfully, I just use all my old Lego blocks to construct jigs to hold in place :)
And I completely understand your worries about the rear bustle rack, as I thought this might give me some problems. How did you attatch to turret? CA glue or plastic cement?
Probably Sunday night I'll get around to building up the upper hull, then sometime during the week finishing up the turret. then it's on to basecoat, and filling and sanding...
:)
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Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Friday, March 12, 2004 3:29 AM
OK I'll go ahead of you guys.

I will try this thing (1/35 Dragon M1A2) over the weekend (tomorrow and Sunday)...kinda weekend project and see how far I can go with it. I have put aside the "Mayflower" that I have been working on lately for this one. I will build this OOB and with a nato 3-color camo. I will also put on some of the Tamiya modern tank accesories like baggages, ration boxes and jery cans as necessary. I used to do my kits fast and I would like to know if I can still do it.

I'll see you on Monday.Wink [;)]

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Posted by MartianGundamModeler on Friday, March 12, 2004 1:04 AM
I love my Trump M1A1 Zokissma! I have all three suassemblies together. I my only major problems aligning the rear bustle rack to the side rails but they are fine now. The BIGGEST problem for me is the side skirts! i would recomment using a plastic weld instead of supper glue on them. The reason being is that the plastic weld dries in like 10 seconds and you don't need tape or some type of complex rig to kep them in place. If i used super glue it would have taken me forever to get those skirts right. But I used plastic weld on all my kits esp my sci fi ones. it melts the plastic and fills th seams all at the same time. However the drawback is that PW does not leave a lot of room for error. Once it's glued its glued!LOL I still have a VERY complex looking mine plow to go and i haven't attached all the hatches yet because I may have to paint them separately.
"Some men look at things the way they are and ask ' Why?'. I dream of things that never were and ask "Why not?".--Robert Kennedy taken from George Bernard Shaw's "Back To Methuselah" (Thanks to TomZ2) http://martiangundammodels.50megs.com/index.html
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Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Thursday, March 11, 2004 8:26 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by tigerman

Thanks for ruining my day Dwight. Wah. LOL



My pleasure...Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by tigerman on Thursday, March 11, 2004 8:12 PM
Thanks for ruining my day Dwight. Wah. LOL

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 Eric 

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Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Thursday, March 11, 2004 7:15 PM
The Dragon M1A1-HA is a cool kit having built one. I don't know if all of these are exactly identical but based on my experience, just watch out for the following:

1.) There is some gaps between the joints of the upper turret and the lower turret. The gap is quite obvious just below the root of the gun. Try to dry fit the upper and lower turret before glueing.

2.) The railings at the side of the turret does not align perfectly with that of the bustle rack (?) at the rear. Some major corrections are necessary. Or if you have things to cover the railings where the alignment is bad then do so like spare road wheel, bags, etc.

3.) If your M1A1-HA comes with a driver...be sure to insert the before you mate the upper and lower hull. It is difficult to squeeze the driver in through the hatch. It means that the diver must be painted first prior to the mating of the hulls.

4.) The indy tracks have sink marks and parting lines. Cleaning is a must so as to guarantee good fit.

5.) The headlights guard are not exact mirror image (I am not sure of it is the case in the real tank) and some adjustments should be made.

6.) The operable panel in the side skirts must be trimmed a little bit inorder to have a good fit.

If your kit does not have the above flaws then consider yourself lucky.

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Posted by tigerman on Thursday, March 11, 2004 6:58 PM
Hope you have more patience than I Zokissima, I ended up giving my Trumpeter to my friend and his kid. I will be attempting the Dragon M1A1-HA. Probably be a week or so before I start.

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 Eric 

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 11, 2004 1:20 PM
Dwight = just opened the plastic but haven't started cutting and gluing yet. lots of accessories but no figures. i just cut the ration boxes and the rubber accessories like the tarps, bed rolls and backpacks. looks really good. and as i've said earlier, the PEs are rusted. it has an interior but i'm not sure if it's fully detailed. i'll find out when we start. (or finish)
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Posted by zokissima on Thursday, March 11, 2004 6:52 AM
ok well I jumped the gun and started mine last night, as I won't be able to work on it much next week.
As said earlier, I'm building the Trumpeter M1A2. Still not 100% decided on the paint scheme, but I'm edging closer to trying out the desert monotone camo. Anyways, I don't have a digi cam, so I'll just post updates here.
The plastic of the kit seems a little...weird...to me. It's texture feels different, and not at all pleasant, but insofar the kit's been going ok together. Last night I decided to put together the lower hull.
The kit obviously was meant to be motorized, but thankfully Trumpeter provide a little 'plug' to patch up the on/off switch hole. I placed this in and used Testors gap filling puttu (gray tube) to fill the gaps around. I'll sand tonight.
Clipped the wheels of the sprue and cleaned them up. There are 16 road wheels to assemble. All of the inwards facing hubs have 4 ejection pin marks, but due to the fact that they'll be almost completely (unless you look underneath and outwards, an unlikely thing) invisible, I did not clean them up. I did, however, take a bit of time to clean the seams that were quite apparent on some of the road wheels. Clipped, cleaned, and installed the road-wheel mounts. Parts A1 are a little stiff going in. Trumpeter has very nicely moulded rectangular blocks into the lower hull that greatly aid in properly aligning the mounts. I glued them all on, then tried the road wheels, and to my great surprise, they all touched ground.
Be careful when removing the drive sprockets, as they're attatched to the sprue in between drive points, so this will have to be CAREFULLY removed and cleaned. Also, the drive sprockets were meant to fit onto a hexagonal drive shaft (again, motorization) so you will have to use a sanding block to thin the mounting shafts for the drive sprockets.
I assembled the rear panel. The quality of the small piece mouldings was not the greatest, and I had to thin a lot of them out to be able to fit into their designated holes. At this point I attatched the rear panel to the lower hull. This went fine, and a little bit of pressing and releasing uniformely spread the glue. A nice strong joint resulted.
Anywhoo, all of this took about 3 hours of my time. So far everything is going well. With the lower hull all completed now, it's become quite apparent that this thing is a BEAST. When complete, it will definitely be the largest tank in my collection.
WHen others out there start their Trumps, fill us (me :) in on the details.
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Posted by M1abramsRules on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:31 PM
I........must........put.........some.........armor..............to.............gether!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am going through withdrawal. but I do not like having more than 3 projects on the go at one time
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Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:31 PM
Garry,

How's the Dragon M1A1-HA going? What can you say about the kit?

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 9:23 PM
sorry beav...i already had a head start lol
but don't worry... i just built my mre ration boxes for my M1A1-HA oif
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Posted by beav on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 7:48 PM
ARGGGGH! CANT STOP MUST START TOMORROW>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

"First to Fire!"

Steven

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Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 7:40 PM
Well, I will be doing mine Out of the Box as usual and I will not bother making it accurate. I did however buy a Tamiya modern armor accessories kit (just a bunch of boxes, jerry cans and baggage) to spice up my M1A2 (Dragon).

I may start on Friday night, too (if I can have the time...) I have been saying to myself that I wil start early but never got the chance..Wink [;)]

Anyway it's good that starting time is just around the corner.

Let's get ready guys and gals.Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by beav on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 7:26 PM
OH WOW
That stuff sounds abnormally complicated
gee
well thanks!

"First to Fire!"

Steven

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 7:15 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by beav
Do you know of any major flaws with this kit though?
anything out of the ordinary thats easily fixed?
please tell!
Thanks all!


Check this link out http://www.elccweb.com/MissingLinks/Tweaks/M1.pdf
Hope this helps.
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Posted by beav on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 6:59 PM
Maybe I can tide myself over by working on the lower hull-you don't see that much anyway------I can do roadwheels, then work on somthing time consuming-treads/tracks!

"First to Fire!"

Steven

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Posted by beav on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 6:58 PM
All Right,
My first group build I am actually going to participate in!
I got hooked up with a Tamiya M1A1 With Mine Plow
It looks fun.
I can't wait until monday, so can we change the start time to Friday???!! PLEASE!
oh ok I have regained control
Well, It looks like a lot of fun
Do you know of any major flaws with this kit though?
anything out of the ordinary thats easily fixed?
please tell!
Thanks all!

"First to Fire!"

Steven

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  • From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posted by zokissima on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 3:44 PM
Ok well no news is good news. I think I'll start the tank tonight, but it's probably the only work on it I'll manage to get done till mid week next week, so my time frame will balance out anyways :)
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Posted by MartianGundamModeler on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 8:31 AM
My Trump is in the closet calling me as well...I'll admit i put a coat of desert sand on the figs yesturday. I couldn't fight it no longer. So i had to get back to the little 1/48 Abrams.Shy [8)]
"Some men look at things the way they are and ask ' Why?'. I dream of things that never were and ask "Why not?".--Robert Kennedy taken from George Bernard Shaw's "Back To Methuselah" (Thanks to TomZ2) http://martiangundammodels.50megs.com/index.html
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Posted by zokissima on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 6:32 AM
Great, can't wait to see it Martian.
I finished up my current project, rearranged and cleaned my workbench (it's kind of a ritual thing I do after I finish a model), and took out my Trumpeter M1A2. Is it ok with everyone if I start a little early? I was just thinking of clipping off some parts tonight and cleaning them up.
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Posted by MartianGundamModeler on Tuesday, March 9, 2004 10:57 PM
I just need to apply decals and weathering to my 1/48 Abrams. I'll post pics when i'm done. I had to do a little Abrams to get me through the hard times till the build starts.lol
"Some men look at things the way they are and ask ' Why?'. I dream of things that never were and ask "Why not?".--Robert Kennedy taken from George Bernard Shaw's "Back To Methuselah" (Thanks to TomZ2) http://martiangundammodels.50megs.com/index.html
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Posted by M1abramsRules on Tuesday, March 9, 2004 5:47 PM
I am so tempted to do one of my hasegawa m1s as a braek from all these ac. I did airfix 1/72 mig15, a tamiya v1, and am in the middle of their clear me 262, and am also doing a revell 1/72 fokker d vii. I need to do some armor!!!!!
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Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Tuesday, March 9, 2004 5:28 PM
Have a safe trip, M1. I'll have my Abrams finished and waiting for you when you get back.

He-he-he.

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Posted by M1abramsRules on Tuesday, March 9, 2004 6:46 AM
yep!! going to Arizona. We're driving the whole way, but I don't think we'll have time to find HS and go them.Disapprove [V]
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Posted by djmodels1999 on Tuesday, March 9, 2004 2:49 AM
Holiday.?!?
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Posted by M1abramsRules on Monday, March 8, 2004 8:18 AM
ok, you guys will have to start without me as I will be gone for the 1st 2 weeks.
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Posted by zokissima on Monday, March 8, 2004 8:07 AM
Yeah definitely has Dwight. One more week till official start date. Can't wait. I have some loose ends to tie up this week, so I can't wait to start this one with a clean palette. There is a convention I'll be attending (hopefully) this weekend with about 50 vendor tables, so maybe I'll get lucky and find something nice this weekend, maybe another M1 Abrams of some sort :)
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Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Sunday, March 7, 2004 5:32 PM
Frosty: Here you go.



You have no browser problems. You are just using the wrong link. When linking to ron's site always use this

http://rongeorge.com/albums/(put section title here ex. armor, figures, ships)/(put picture filename here)

So that your file will be:

http://rongeorge.com/albums/armor/IMGP0090.jpg


Wow, looks like this GB has picked up.Smile [:)]



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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 7, 2004 5:14 PM
I'm building Hasagawa A-6 Inturder. I want to drop the flaps but seem kinda hard. i've got some etch parts for the M1 i brought while I was over seas and tracks too.
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