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FineScale Modeler WWI Aeroplane Group Build 2013

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Posted by P mitch on Sunday, February 17, 2013 4:03 PM

Just to update all on my quest for wooden props. I've been in communication with a very helpful gentleman called Craig at TheMicroGroup. Sorry to say they don't have a web site but if you drop them an email at themicrogroup@yahoo.com. I'm not saying they are cheap and I haven't warned them I'm doing this but sure they won't mind the business. Below is a picture of the props they have to offer.

They are also in the US but it looks like postage is fair ro anywhere in the world

Phil

"If anybody ever tells you anything about an aeroplane which is so bloody complicated you can't understand it, take it from me: it's all balls." R J Mitchell


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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, February 17, 2013 6:21 PM

Phil those blades look incredible! I'll see how mine turns out but I'm definitely tempted.

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Posted by wing_nut on Monday, February 18, 2013 7:22 AM

I've seen that guys props in the flesh so to speak and they are really very nice.  I have made 2 attempts at carving my own and I think I did OK.  It wasn't as hard as I thought it would be using a Dremel and a sanding drum.  This is the prop that made it to the front of my Roland   The other prop has a small error.  I carved the pitch backwards.Whistling

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, February 18, 2013 7:27 AM

Gee it does look a little odd Marc, but I don't think I'd have noticed if you hadn't said so. Wow, that's fantastic work there!

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Posted by wing_nut on Monday, February 18, 2013 8:01 AM

That's the correct oneBig Smile  Maybe one day I'll build a pusher to use the backwards oneStick out tongue

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Posted by P mitch on Monday, February 18, 2013 8:05 AM

Marc

As long as you noticed before you fit it to the kit, call it a practice piece! I just hope when mine arrvies they have some way of me telling front to back!

Phil

"If anybody ever tells you anything about an aeroplane which is so bloody complicated you can't understand it, take it from me: it's all balls." R J Mitchell


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Posted by Bish on Monday, February 18, 2013 8:58 AM

Stunning work on that prop Marc. I don't think i will be doing anything as extreme as that for a 72nd kit.

So do these WnW kits come with plastic props.

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, February 18, 2013 9:06 AM

wing_nut

That's the correct oneBig Smile  Maybe one day I'll build a pusher to use the backwards oneStick out tongue

Ah, so it is! I don't know at first glance the top blade looked funny to me. I'm going to the eye doctor later this week, maybe I can get my eyeballs recalibrated Embarrassed

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Monday, February 18, 2013 9:12 AM

Marc: Good stuff right there. I think I'm going to learn a lot during this group build.

By the way, you guys should go back and look at Ruddratt's workbench. In light of how neat it is and how freaking AWESOME that D.VII cockpit and engine look, I don't believe he's human. He's some sort of model-building Terminator from the future, here to shame us with his dazzling displays of skill.

I was on the roof with the lawnmower yesterday as per the doctor's orders. Cold, windy, and very noisy. My wife took particular joy in throwing stones at me while I was up there.

10 days!

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Posted by P mitch on Monday, February 18, 2013 9:36 AM

Bish

Yes mine comes with two plastic props, I think I'll paint them up just to see how I go but I'm hoping to get the wodden one in time

Phil

"If anybody ever tells you anything about an aeroplane which is so bloody complicated you can't understand it, take it from me: it's all balls." R J Mitchell


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Posted by ruddratt on Monday, February 18, 2013 8:01 PM

Wow! Thanks Tim! My bench ain't always that clean though. Wink

...and good news - my WnW E.III arrived today! It's a sweet looking kit, with a relatively low parts count for a Wingnut kit, but the detail looks real good. Should be a fun build! Yes

Mike

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Posted by ruddratt on Monday, February 18, 2013 11:32 PM

Phil, those props look sweet! I know that Part of Poland makes PE prop bosses in different scales and was wondering if these wooden props also include them.

Marc, man, that is just ...... well, I'm at a loss for words. Can't believe you carved that sucker! Phenomenal! I am not quite that brave, so I'm going to attempt painting the laminated layers on the kit prop. Been working on a jig something like this to facilitate the process....

http://www.ultracast.ca/products/RB_Productions/Tools_Scratch-Building/RB-T036/default.htm

Tim, yep, only ten days! I better get cracking on that D.VII. Man, I can't wait to see everyone's work!

Mike

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Posted by wing_nut on Tuesday, February 19, 2013 7:32 AM

Thanks for the compliments on the prop guys.  

Phil, you should have no problem figuring which way is which.  

The D.Va kits comes with 4 different prop and I have leftovers from the other kits built so anyone need one just give a holla.

I glued up some blanks to make the props and will do a little SBS of how it goes.. if it goes wellWink  Now I know what you are thinking... FOUL! EARLY START!  i have 2 WNW kits in the stash.  And... hmmm.. this is for the other one.  How that's it.  That's my story and I'm sticking to itWhistling

Mike, I saw that jig too and thought it looked very interesting..Hope you come up with an idea that works and would love to see that.  For me barley building any aircraft, much less WWI birds, it's not worth the investment   But for you seems it would get a fair amount of use.

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Posted by falconmod on Tuesday, February 19, 2013 1:22 PM

Tim,

  I just got a Eduard Albatros DIII OEFFAG 153 1/48 for my birthday this month from a friend of mine, and I just stumbled across this GB today, I 've already started so can I still join?  This by the way is my very first WW1 subject, I've always done jets so this is a Hugh change for me.

John

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Tuesday, February 19, 2013 4:16 PM

Hi guys,

Sorry I haven't posted here yet today. I've been neck deep in editing the new NPRD video.

First: Only 9 days to go!

Second: John (Falconmod), Aaron and I really want to be inclusive, but we also want to be fair to the guys who have been waiting to build. The GB doesn't start until March 1st, so you've got a jump on the rest of us.

Aaron and I talked it over and here's what we propose: Don't do anymore work on your D.III and postpone starting up again until March 8th or until you see the first images come across the thread that basically correspond to where you're currently at in your build (whichever comes first). This gives the rest of us a chance to catch up.

My other suggestion would be to keep truckin' on the D.III, because it's looking good, and start a WIP thread. When you finish, if you're still up for building WWI planes and you think there's enough time left in the GB (deadline is a firm July 31), jump in then with another kit.

Either way you choose, my main concern is that you finish your build and you have an enjoyable time doing it. If that means coming along with the rest of us for the ride, then by all means. But now that you've shown us what you're working on, I definitely want to see the final result.

Let me know how you'd like to play it.

Third: To anyone else who is considering joining the build, we're making this one exception for Falconmod because it came out of the blue and we'd feel like heartless cads if we said no. However, now that we've dealt with it, we'll just put it out there that future entries have to be kits that haven't seen any prior work.

OK, I think that covers it. Back to editing video ... I mean, brushing up on my aerial combat tactics.

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Posted by ruddratt on Tuesday, February 19, 2013 8:00 PM

Marc, it does look like a neat tool, but at $30, plus the fact that it never seems to be available, I think I'm gonna try my hand at McGuyvering one out of styrene stock. We'll see how it works.

Tim, sounds fair. I too would love to see more of John's work, and this would be a great place for him to share it.

John, it looks real nice so far, especially for your first WWI bird - way better than my first! The wood grain is very impressive! One thing I noticed however, and that is you may want to check your instructions in regards to the engine. I'm pretty sure it's facing the wrong direction. The location of the magnetos called it to my attention.

Mike

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Wednesday, February 20, 2013 9:33 AM

Good morning, all!

Eight days to go!

We've heard from a few of us about possible finishes. Would anyone else like to share their ideas?

If you guys haven't yet, check out Greg Bale's SPAD builds. He's doing some laps at the track in anticipation for this GB.

And, Aaron and I have a little surprise planned for this build. If it goes well, we might continue it for future FSM group builds. Now, where did I put my flare gun?

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Posted by wing_nut on Wednesday, February 20, 2013 6:28 PM

Ooooo I love surprises... What is it?Big Smile

The deliveries have started. Today was the new tip and needle for the Grex AB.  Turnbuckles and MG brass next and all will be ready for the start.  Gettin' my feet in the starting blocks

Marc  

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Posted by ruddratt on Wednesday, February 20, 2013 7:27 PM

wing_nut

Ooooo I love surprises... What is it?Big Smile

If he told you, it wouldn't be a suprise, would it?! Stick out tongue

Mike

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Posted by ruddratt on Wednesday, February 20, 2013 7:56 PM

Oh, and yes, I am super-stoked for this GB!!! Got everything ready to go!!

....are we there yet??? Propeller

Mike

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, February 21, 2013 12:07 AM

In case anyone does need additional inspiration here are some photos of flyable replica warbirds from The Fighter Factory at the Virginia Beach, Virginia airport. They restore Second World War and Cold War aircraft but these are replicas recreated to look like Great War aircraft. Even though they're not 'real' I still think they're super cool! And these are only about 1/3 of them!

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Thursday, February 21, 2013 8:15 AM

Seven -- that's right, SEVEN -- days to go!

Gamera: Thanks for the pics!

Did anyone else see the article in last month's Smithsonian Air & Space magazine about a collection of WWI birds? It wasn't bad, though there weren't a lot of close-ups of the airplanes. Still, some interesting photos.

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Posted by wing_nut on Thursday, February 21, 2013 10:22 AM

 Nice photos.

7 days.  Hmm  seems just yesterday it was but 8 days.

In keep with the "This is supposed to be fun" mentality, this has been running in my paper this week...

(for entertaiment purposes only)

Marc  

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Posted by falconmod on Thursday, February 21, 2013 11:11 AM

Tim,

  I think I'll hold off on the build until after the eight.  but as I 'm a hopeless plastic addict I may actually go and get another eduard kit and start another, I really like their weekend kits.  probably the albatros D V

John

On the Bench: 1/72 Ki-67, 1/48 T-38

1/144 AC-130, 1/72 J2M3 Raiden

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Posted by falconmod on Thursday, February 21, 2013 11:14 AM

Mike,

   I looked at the instructions and i do have the engine assembled correctly and in the fuselage facing the right way.    just about had a heart attack.Dead

John

On the Bench: 1/72 Ki-67, 1/48 T-38

1/144 AC-130, 1/72 J2M3 Raiden

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, February 21, 2013 11:15 AM

Cool Marc, I always cheered Snoopy on against that mean ol' Red Baron.

There was a kit of flying ace Snoopy released back in the '70s wasn't it?  

John: Yikes! 

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Thursday, February 21, 2013 11:16 AM

falconmod
I think I'll hold off on the build until after the eight.  but as I 'm a hope plastic addict I may actually go and get another eduard kit and start another, I really like their weekend kits.  probably the albatros D V

Hi John,

Just to clarify, do you want me to put you down for the D.III or the D.V?

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Posted by falconmod on Thursday, February 21, 2013 11:25 AM

Tim,

  Put me down for the DIII.

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Thursday, February 21, 2013 11:46 AM

falconmod

Tim,

  Put me down for the DIII.

You got it! Welcome!

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Posted by freem on Thursday, February 21, 2013 1:52 PM

I remember a "Sopwith Camel" that was a snap kit.  I think it was yellow with stickers and had a battery operated motor that spun the prop. In fact while typing this I opend up a new tab and Googled "Monogram Snoopy Sopwith Camel" and there it was!  I had that kit when I was a kid.  It came out about 1970 or so.  Brought back some memories of the good old days, Gamera!

Chris Christenson

 

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