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FineScale Modeler WWI Aeroplane Group Build 2013

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, July 22, 2013 7:26 AM

Yeah, nice work Chuck! The streaked fabric effect looks even better with the model mostly together. And I had enough problems aligning the two wings on the Nieuport, the triplane must have been a pain.

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Posted by Bish on Monday, July 22, 2013 12:10 AM

Now that's a nice touch phil, thanks for the pic.

Looking good chuck. That's some balancing act with those wings. That should be fun to rig.

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Posted by Chuck Davis on Sunday, July 21, 2013 11:03 PM

Good evening gentlemen.  Hope everyone had a great weekend.  In between shuttling the kids to the County Fair and back, I managed to get some work done (finally Cool).

This is how the triplane started the weekend:

 

Before I got too far I had to assemble the upper deck.  I had spent a lot of time earlier on fiddling with the fit of this resin part, and it paid off - it clicked into place (phew!).  The kit gun mounts were in the perfect spot, so I decided to use them instead of my original plan of replacing them with parts from my D.VII - again lucky.  Some filling and painting of the cockpit coaming, and it was on to the wings.  In short order, I went from the pile of parts above thru the sequence shown below:

  

Shouldn't be long now...just the landing gear, engine, cowl, stabilizer, rigging, control cables....

Yeah...maybe it will be a bit yet.  But I'm happy I got this far!  Take care everyone...

Chuck Davis

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Posted by P mitch on Sunday, July 21, 2013 4:54 AM

Bish

The badge is the logo for Sopwith, Wingnut sell them and it was just too nice an addition not to use.

[View:http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/productdetail?productid=3075&cat=5#:600:0]

They are doing one for Fokker soon looking at their wed site

Phil

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, July 21, 2013 2:56 AM

Phil, that's gorgeous. The prop looks stunning. And nicely displayed as well. Whats the badge on the base.

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Posted by ruddratt on Sunday, July 21, 2013 1:29 AM

Phil - the 'Pup really turned out sweet! Been eyeballing that kit for some time - may just have to take the plunge and pop an order for one. Very nice work! I'd be mega-proud to display that one! Yes

Tim & Aaron - great work guys! Both color schemes are really striking - been very much enjoying watching these come together! ....and thanks for another great vlog!

Mike

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Posted by Gamera on Saturday, July 20, 2013 8:37 PM

Phil: Beautiful work and presentation!!! Heart

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Posted by wing_nut on Saturday, July 20, 2013 7:59 PM

P mitch

 ...amazing works of art... 

You can add this of the list of amazing works of art because the so very artfully done.

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Posted by Chuck Davis on Saturday, July 20, 2013 2:29 PM

Beautiful Pup, Phil.  Excellent job.  Hopefully after you give yourself some "space" you'll come back and build another WW1!

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Posted by shivinigh on Saturday, July 20, 2013 11:43 AM

Aaron and Tim you ate making great progress and the builds are looking great.

PMitch nice job on the pup and it looks good on the base

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by gregbale on Saturday, July 20, 2013 11:34 AM

Absolutely beautiful Pup, there,  Phil. Truly stunning. The base as well.

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Posted by P mitch on Saturday, July 20, 2013 11:13 AM

Fellow Group Builders finally the Sopwith Pup is finished. Very happy with it and very proud to be in the same group as some amazing works of art you have all done on here.

A couple more pictures on the WIP and some comments on the kit which is amazing. Now going to have a lie down in a dark room and then look at Sci-Fi kits from the stash as I cant face rigging again for a while

Phil

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Posted by gregbale on Friday, July 19, 2013 5:14 PM

EXCELLENT progress Aaron and Tim. YesYes

Good to see you guys getting close to the wire.

Greg

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Posted by Aaron Skinner on Friday, July 19, 2013 4:30 PM

Tim Kidwell

As promised, new vlog is live!

 Aaron has already made even more progress since we shot the vlog. He's about to overtake me ... jerk. And his build looks better, too. Ah, well.

Have a great weekend, guys.

13 days to go!

Tim

Now Tim, it's not a race. I just figured I better get a move on so I'm not sitting there on August 1, wondering why I didn't have the model finished.
Cheers, Aaron

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Friday, July 19, 2013 4:26 PM

As promised, new vlog is live!

 Aaron has already made even more progress since we shot the vlog. He's about to overtake me ... jerk. And his build looks better, too. Ah, well.

Have a great weekend, guys.

13 days to go!

Tim

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Posted by P mitch on Friday, July 19, 2013 12:06 PM

Update to my WIP on the Sopwith. Down to the final touches and just need to make my mind up on the base. I've put both on the WIP now so any suggestions great accepted

[View:http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/2/p/153188/1671105.aspx#1671105]

Phil

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, July 19, 2013 8:59 AM

All good suggestions - if I may toss in one more Flory makes a light tan wash. I picked some up but haven't used it yet so I don't know how it will look though.

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, July 19, 2013 1:47 AM

Tim Kidwell

Good morning, gents!

I have a question:

What would you use for a wash over white? I've been gnawing at this one for weeks, and now that I'm getting toward the end of the build, I still haven't come up with an answer that pleases me. I just want a hint of weathering, but I don't want it to look dingy. Any suggestions?

The easiest answer is USN Gull Gray. It's about a 6-7 on the warm gray meter, and I typically use it on my ships to get a nice daylight effect in what's usually a blue light indoor room.

Problem is if you use it too often all of your models tend to look...the same.

But I like it as a general kind of warmifier.

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Posted by Chuck Davis on Thursday, July 18, 2013 9:53 AM

That's a bummer!  Any chance you could snake a piece of stretched sprue down to the pedal as a replacement for the wire?

And I want you to try Wing_Nut's dot filter.  I want to see other people use that to finally get me off my rear to try it.  Nothing like a little peer pressure.

Good luck on both...

Chuck Davis

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Thursday, July 18, 2013 9:48 AM

Chuck and Greg - The cable that broke came up from the pedal through the starboard side of the fuselage and that's where it snapped. No tension, I just brushed it and it came off in my hand. There's not much I can do about reattaching it to the pedal.

So, my plan is to attach a new control line coming through the side of the fuselage and go from there.

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Posted by wing_nut on Thursday, July 18, 2013 9:44 AM

Is it painted with acrylics? If so, an oil dot filter would work well in that situation I think.  I would start with several light coats of buff thinned to filter consistency, 95/5.  This will the the "edge" off the white. Then the dot filters.  Raw umber, a medium ocher color I think.  Don't be afraid to put some very tiny bits of colors like red , blue. and green.   Once blended you won't see those color really but it can add to the overall effect of the tonal variation that is the purpose of this method.  Good news is... oil base filter over acrylics and it can be wiped off if you don't like it.  BTW this whole process is best over flat, as in not glossy, surfaces.

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Posted by gregbale on Thursday, July 18, 2013 9:36 AM

Tim Kidwell

I have a question:

What would you use for a wash over white? I've been gnawing at this one for weeks, and now that I'm getting toward the end of the build, I still haven't come up with an answer that pleases me. I just want a hint of weathering, but I don't want it to look dingy. Any suggestions?

I use "sludge washes" almost exclusively--mostly water and soap--but I've found that a drop of gray and a drop of brown mixed together works well. Could be shadow, could be grime, but, most importantly, it doesn't look like a "paint color."

Is that an interior or an exterior cable? Bad news if it's inside....

Greg

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Posted by Chuck Davis on Thursday, July 18, 2013 9:25 AM

Good morning, Tim.  I've used light - to mid grey with success; I've heard people use light tan as well.

How are you planning to fix the cable?  It's pretty tight in there...

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Thursday, July 18, 2013 9:13 AM

Good morning, gents!

I have a question:

What would you use for a wash over white? I've been gnawing at this one for weeks, and now that I'm getting toward the end of the build, I still haven't come up with an answer that pleases me. I just want a hint of weathering, but I don't want it to look dingy. Any suggestions?

Also, one of my aileron cables broke. Between all the masking and painting and moving, it must have rubbed against the plastic one too many times. Not a big problem, but one I thought should be logged.

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, July 17, 2013 2:36 PM

wing_nut

John that radiator looks pretty darn sweet.  Great shot of the R/C bird.  Bet that was real purdy in flight.

Shiv, however much the Gotha is fighting you, you are fighting back... and from the looks if it, winning.

Got my mug.  I took the lead from Bish on 2 points 1 was to not have my "mug" in the mug shotWink  The other was some embellishment.  I liked his addition of his screen name so I did that and added the finished build to the side as well.

Glad I can still inspire someone. And that's a great idea putting a pic of the model on there. Kicking myself for not thinking of that.

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Posted by Chuck Davis on Wednesday, July 17, 2013 2:23 PM

Hey guys - great work as usual.  Marc, I especially like your mug mod - looks cool!  Wish I had waited on mine now Sad  Maybe next time.

GMorrison - That Felix, I can't wait to see her finished - gotta finish her, even if she only has a short campaign life.

Shiv - nice Gotha.  I'm hoping she's able to cross the finish line too.

Tim - As one wise modeler told me, enjoy all those final details 'cause once the model is done, it's ...done.

My Skyraider is up on its gear and acquiring all the do-dads that hang on it, so I hope to get the Triplane rolled out from the back of the hanger and into final assembly this weekend.  Take care everyone!

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Wednesday, July 17, 2013 11:16 AM

wing_nut

John that radiator looks pretty darn sweet.  Great shot of the R/C bird.  Bet that was real purdy in flight.

***, however much the Gotha is fighting you, you are fighting back... and from the looks if it, winning.

Got my mug.  I took the lead from Bish on 2 points 1 was to not have my "mug" in the mug shotWink  The other was some embellishment.  I liked his addition of his screen name so I did that and added the finished build to the side as well.

Marc - Outstanding!

I am neck deep in deets right now: all the little things that will need to come together to get this D.VII done. Just finished painting tires and wheels. By my Spandaus, I can see the aerodrome and taste the schnapps! 

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Posted by wing_nut on Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:58 AM

John that radiator looks pretty darn sweet.  Great shot of the R/C bird.  Bet that was real purdy in flight.

Shiv, however much the Gotha is fighting you, you are fighting back... and from the looks if it, winning.

Got my mug.  I took the lead from Bish on 2 points 1 was to not have my "mug" in the mug shotWink  The other was some embellishment.  I liked his addition of his screen name so I did that and added the finished build to the side as well.

Marc  

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Posted by gregbale on Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:18 PM

John - The Niner's radiator looks great. Looking forward to seeing more.

Shiv - Gotha is looking awesome. That's some impressive wingspan, even in braille scale.

GMorrison - I really hope you get the Felixstowe done! Your comments are both instructive and foreboding, since I've got the same kit in the stash. May have to put it off until the much-anticipated "Son of FSM WW1 Aeroplane GB."

Greg

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:46 PM

I completely agree. The Felixstowe has fought me every step of the way. I have finally managed to get the top wing in place, but I had to remove the cabane type struts on the top of the engine pods to do so because they made the wing hump up in the middle. They were these nice little inverted V pieces of plastic, but I had to chop them out. They'll be replaced with individual struts once everything else is lined up and the wing is level across the 14 interplane struts.

I've cursed this thing a lot, as it got to the point about a month ago where stuff breaks off as fast as you can add parts and it becomes a race. I suspect it won't last more than a year or so in the case before it just falls apart from gravitational force. No lie.

Attachment points are minimal to non-existent, and the parts are super small. I do not think 1/72 is a good scale for this era, although others seem to be having better luck.

I have been building a Hansa Brandenburg W.29 floater on the side, just to maintain my sanity.

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