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Posted by Nathan T on Tuesday, April 30, 2013 8:31 AM

shivinigh

For the D-day GB, and I am not sure that I am right, the Germans had 2 aircraft show up and I think 1 was piloted by Pillier or something like that I have to check. Was it FW-190's that they flew?

Sort of correct. Pips Priller and his wingman strafed the beach head(omaha?) on D-Day, in Fw 190 A-7s or -8s. There were many German aircraft in the air this day, but they simply didn't make it over the beach head, as they got caught up tangling with allied fighters and bombers ahead of the beach (invasion front).

 

 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Tuesday, April 30, 2013 7:35 AM

CARRIER GB is on!!!

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Clemens

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Posted by shivinigh on Tuesday, April 30, 2013 3:40 AM

For the D-day GB, and I am not sure that I am right, the Germans had 2 aircraft show up and I think 1 was piloted by Pillier or something like that I have to check. Was it FW-190's that they flew?

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by sub revolution on Tuesday, April 30, 2013 3:29 AM

Transport aircraft!! Now there's one I haven't seen yet. Sounds great! *dig, dig, dig* Well, I do seem to have a PE-8 with markings for Stalin's personal plane. I suppose that would fit the bill. It is HUGE though, will definitely be the biggest model I have built yet!

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, April 30, 2013 2:50 AM

Shiv, i like the idea of the transport GB. I can't commit to anything new for a while, but if the timing is right, i would be in. But sounds like you have your hands full with a few GB's for a while.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by shivinigh on Tuesday, April 30, 2013 2:40 AM
I am still kinda new to GB's and am only in my second one. Did the twin boom GB and am currently in FSM WW1 Aeroplane GB, which I am learning alot about a ropic I Never did before.

For the othe GB ideas I love them all and have a kit for each one. For the flying tank would an AH-64 Appache be appropriate? Have an SA-2 from Egypt for the duck hunter, and an F-4d skyray for the carrier.

An idea I had for a GB was transport aircraft. Basically anything that carries people or supplies, military or civilian.

And Bish you are right. GB's can be kind of addictive.

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, April 30, 2013 2:07 AM

Eagle, i did build the old tamiya 88 many years ago and its not a bad kit. I also built the Mobelwagen with the 4 20mm guns and that was nice as well. Unfortunatly i don't have these kits any more. So now i have both the Tamiya Mobelwagens in the stash and will be building the 3.7cm version. You can't go far wrong with a Tamiya kit. From your list, i would go for the 88mm or the Mobelwagen myself.

Chris, it will be nice to see that canadian GB get off the ground. I think we had a towed arty GB a few years ago, so it could well be timed for another one.

Eric, i have tried to spread out the two armour GB's but if people show interest in both, i may just put the halftrack GB back a couple of months. It would still fit within 2014 and it would give people time to commit to both as i know many guys will be interested  in both. So Jan 1st isn't a hard and fast start date.

Thanks G-J, i am glad people are finding it useful.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by tigerman on Tuesday, April 30, 2013 1:41 AM

SchattenSpartan

Thank you very much, Bish.

I wont host an El Alamein GB maself, but i wolud throw some kind of tank in for sure, if someone else hosts it.

Clemens

I was thinking along these lines myself. Hmm Maybe it's time I take a break from hosting and just become a follower.

Bish, that halftrack build sounds pretty cool as does the AA. Just not sure which to sign up for.

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 Eric 

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Posted by G-J on Monday, April 29, 2013 8:34 PM

Awesome post Bish!

This should be stickied so that it is easily found in this particular forum.  Lots of great answers to many common GB questions.

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Posted by gunner_chris on Monday, April 29, 2013 8:30 PM

Thanks for this post Bish.

GB's are a great motivator, and I find I learn more about history because when a GB comes up that I have a incline to participate now I start researching a topic and then researching a kit in my price range.

Time to kick start the Canadian GB.......and I have an idea for Towed Artillery one later in the year.......

Then there's a weekend madness.......secret santa.......

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Posted by Eagle90 on Monday, April 29, 2013 8:11 PM

Bish

Joe, i know what you mean. I can se me getting drawn into more and more GB's, i can just help myself.

Anyone have the number for GB anonomous.

But, if it inspires me to get building, all the better.

Budd, while i may not go in for those little country GB's, i think they are a great idea. GB with 109's, 190's and Tiger's are all great, but we can't forget all the otehrs as well. And theres some kit there that you might not normally see. I have a few MiG's so i would be in on a Russian GB.

Hey Bish, when you find that number, send it my way......I'm starting to feel it myself! Stick out tongue

Here is what I have for AA:

Tamiya 88mm

Tamiya Mobelwagen

Academy Wirlbelwind

Tamiya 20mm FLAK 38

Italeri Sd.Kfz 10/4 with FLAK 30

I don't think I'm ready for the Italeri yet.  But out of the others, which would you say would be a good first kit to do?  Thanks Bish!

Eagle90

 

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Posted by fightnjoe on Monday, April 29, 2013 5:37 PM

i remember when i first joined here and got into the group builds i had signed up for like ten or so.  lucky for me they fell in such a way i had little overlap of builds.  i can see myself taking an assembly from one build and trying to fit it into another.  

joe

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Posted by Bish on Monday, April 29, 2013 4:16 PM

Joe, i know what you mean. I can se me getting drawn into more and more GB's, i can just help myself.

Anyone have the number for GB anonomous.

But, if it inspires me to get building, all the better.

Budd, while i may not go in for those little country GB's, i think they are a great idea. GB with 109's, 190's and Tiger's are all great, but we can't forget all the otehrs as well. And theres some kit there that you might not normally see. I have a few MiG's so i would be in on a Russian GB.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Monday, April 29, 2013 3:14 PM

No russian stuff for me atm, I dont own any planes but my big Flanker. And I'm not ready at all for such a big chunk of plastic.

There would only be my IS-2 left for something russian, bit it is 80% finished so not usable at all in a GB.

Maybe I'll pick Tamiyas BT-7 up someday....

Cheers, Clemens

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Posted by fightnjoe on Monday, April 29, 2013 3:10 PM

bish great post.  summed up very well.  

this needed to be stated and you did a fantastic job.

i am on a major restriction for group builds myself, also self imposed.  i have one that i am part of on another site and now i am looking at whether to start up a pearl build this year.  

joe

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Monday, April 29, 2013 3:10 PM

Thank you very much, Bish.

I wont host an El Alamein GB maself, but i wolud throw some kind of tank in for sure, if someone else hosts it.

Clemens

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Posted by sub revolution on Monday, April 29, 2013 3:08 PM

Great thread, Bish! I think you got all the important stuff. I really like the sound of that "Americans in Britain" idea. I will have to see what I have that would fit.

Clemens, I also really like the carrier idea. There was an ongoing one here that was very successful, but I think everyone involved in it has gone away. So maybe it's time to hit that topic up again.

As I mentioned to Bish earlier, I would personally like to see another Russian themed GB for a few reasons. One being I love anything Russian, and as a result, half my stash is now Russian planes. But I have also noticed that most GB's with a Russian-ish theme tend to do pretty well.

Also going with that, I am hoping that Vance continues his "unsung" countries series. He hosted the Sweedish and French GB's which were both a lot of fun. Now I hear rumors of Canadian GB? That could be interesting. Anybody have more ideas for less-often-modeled countries that would make a good GB?

-Budd

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Posted by Bish on Monday, April 29, 2013 3:05 PM

No worries Clemens. I am just going to post some pics of my current builds and i will have a look at them.

One other thing just came to my attention. This Sept is the 70th Anniversary of El Alamein. I am not in a position to do so, but a desert GB around this battle might be a nice idea.

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Monday, April 29, 2013 2:08 PM

Sent you an endless list of links for the badge pics already, BIsh.

You're helping me lot already btw, so a big "thank you!" from me.

Clemens

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Posted by Bish on Monday, April 29, 2013 1:59 PM

I am on a self imposed bann for buying kits at the moment, i need to build some more first. Not sure how long the bann will last, its tough going. . I think i may have to look at my build scheduale and fit in one for the carrier. And sure, will be happy to help.

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Monday, April 29, 2013 1:49 PM

They have one left at my local hobby store Stick out tongue  Are 35€ ok for that kit?

Ok, carrier it will be (my entry still has a radial engine lol).

Isn't the Jug build over by now? Nevermind, I can still start the radial GB a little bit later Wink I'll just make a suggestion thread for it and host one, if there are more than 10 folks interested. Could you assist me a little bit with all of that stuff? (just a the beginning)

I'll search for some pics for a badge...

Hope to get an answer soon

Clemens

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Posted by Bish on Monday, April 29, 2013 1:41 PM

Given whast on at the moment, Fw 190 and i am not sure if the P-47 is still running, i think i would go with the carrier. I think that will be something different.

That 253 is one i deffinatly want to get my hands on.

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Monday, April 29, 2013 1:34 PM

I like the 250 too. Especially the one with the turret and the one with the closed top:

  

Clemens

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Monday, April 29, 2013 1:30 PM

So, which GB should i host now? I CAN'T DECIDE FFS!!!!!

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Posted by Bish on Monday, April 29, 2013 1:25 PM

Eagle, the two i have done are the Italeri Ostwind and the Dragon Kugelblitz (Clemans, thats a nice kit, even if it is an old one, and makes for an unsual subject) I still have to complete Dio's for those two, i am hopeing to do the Ostwind son.

2 251's, not a bad start. I am a big fan of the 251 and have a few in the stash. I imagiune the half Track GB will have a few of those.

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Posted by Bish on Monday, April 29, 2013 1:17 PM

SchattenSpartan

With flying tanks i was going for a group build where everyone could choose the aircraft they want to build, as long as had no big wooden parts, or other fragile components (rudders out of wood would be no problem, as they are relatively small parts)  and was sturdy enough to get some reputation (at least among the pilots that flew it) for that feature. It would be based on peoples own opinion, because it would be interesting to see what you folks would come up with.

But I guess I'll be going with one of the first two options.

What do you think?

The radial engine GB would have some interesting entries for sure (for example tanks or that russian aerosleds  with a radial at the back)

The carrier GB would have less variation in the entries, but that has its own pros, right?

Cheers, Clemens

As long as you make that pretty clear, the Flying tanks could well work. For the carrier, if you did want a wider selection, you could make it all carriers. But i think tehre enough US carrier aircraft to make it a good one. I have a couple if have been looking for the excuse to build.

My advice would be to start one and then maybe start the other half way through the first, or when it ends. As Mustang has said on another thread, its not as easy to run one as it might seems. At any one time over the next year, i will be running 4 at once. I may be biteing off more than i can chew, but it will be fun trying.

I know you have just joined a couple of GB's, i would get the hang of those, and be careful it can be easy to over commit, i know i have done that in the past. Complete the builds you have entered into these GB's, and then you will have a good grasp of them and start your own. There are a couple of GB;s coiming to an end July/August time. That should be just about perfect, giving you time to complete your current builds and then get your own GB up and running. maybe end of June.

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Monday, April 29, 2013 1:14 PM

I have a nice 88mm FLAK lying around here (Dragon 1:35) for the AA group build.

Maybe I'll go and buy a Flakpanzer 38(t) or a "Kugelblitz" as well.

 

As far as halftracks go, two 251 should be enough...

Clemens

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Posted by Eagle90 on Monday, April 29, 2013 1:09 PM

Bish

Eagle, i knew i had forgotten something. I was going to mention the badges.

In most cases, you can host the badge on your sig as soon as you join. Now and again, a host will ask you not to host it until you have completed your build, but thats not often. Of course, if you don't complete your build, its just polite to not host the badge.Persoanlly, i don't put it on my sig until i have cpmpleted my build.I leave my badges in the larger size which then allows the members to shrink them as they see fit. And its always best to copy and paiste them onto your own computer. That way, if the host cleans out there PB account, you don't lose the badge.

A man after my own heart. I have already built 2 German Flak Panzers and i have 4 more in the stash. I also have all the 251 Flak versions.

nathan, good point. I am not a fan of the open ended GB's. I think it will work for the B-52 because of the nature of the kits, but generally they are best avoided.

I thought that might be the case with the badges.  I'm that way.....I haven't earned it until I'm finished!

I'll have to shoot you a list of what I have for AA kits.  You can give me a kit review if you have done any of them and give a suggestion for a good first AA kit to do.  Thanks for the great thread!

Eagle90

 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Monday, April 29, 2013 12:53 PM

With flying tanks i was going for a group build where everyone could choose the aircraft they want to build, as long as had no big wooden parts, or other fragile components (rudders out of wood would be no problem, as they are relatively small parts)  and was sturdy enough to get some reputation (at least among the pilots that flew it) for that feature. It would be based on peoples own opinion, because it would be interesting to see what you folks would come up with.

But I guess I'll be going with one of the first two options.

What do you think?

The radial engine GB would have some interesting entries for sure (for example tanks or that russian aerosleds  with a radial at the back)

The carrier GB would have less variation in the entries, but that has its own pros, right?

Cheers, Clemens

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Posted by Bish on Monday, April 29, 2013 12:41 PM

Clemens, the Radial GB idea is a good one. I might be able to squeeze in another Fw 190. I just got to be careful i don't over commit. I like the carrier idea, i am not sure if we had something similar, but if we did it would have been a few years ago. As for the Flying Tanks, sounds like a god idea, only problem is how you you determine whats in and what isn't. many people may have there own views on what aircraft could take damage and still keep going.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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