Good work on the Oscar, Doug. Another 1/32 build that has drawn me back to that scale.

Cheers

Tony

Doug: Looks great! Looking forward to the rest of the paint.

Jack: As Doug said there wasn't any 'normal' cockpit colour used by the Japanese and not much information available now. Colours varied by company and by Army or Navy. Mitsubishi Zeros for instance had cockpits a yellowish-green that looks to me much like US Interior Green and Nakajima were painted a more greyish-green that looks a lot like RAF Interior Green. Kawasaki Army aircraft were painted a tan/brownish shade. Some the smaller companies like Aichi it's hard to find much information one way or the other.

The Oscar is looking pretty good. It's making me want to pull one out of the stash.

Doug, I'm liking that aluminum finish.

Guys, thanks for answering the cockpit colour questions.  I noticed Tamiya has  XF71 listed  as Japanese Interior Green.  Which would this one fall under?

regards,

Jack

Tamiya's color isn't based on any real research afaik. It looks alittle too faded and pale. I would suggest Nick Milman's Japanese aircraft blog for color chips and pics of old relics and plane pieces.

If I had to pick one I'd say it looks more like Nakajima Navy cockpit green. As Nathan said it's something you'd probably best do more research on the specific aircraft you're modeling.

Thanks one and all... I'm glad others are confused too about the Japanese colors, I knew there wernt many referances to this topic. Being a Nakajima built aircraft, thats the referance I'm trying to use. I usually wind up doing so then someone with more info will find something that differs from my findings( and are likely more informed) and I wind up with a mismatched scheme(LOL). But its always appreciated and I note for future builds in my referance files.

Yes friends, the 32nds are my favorites st this stage of life, but I still enjoy a well detailed 48th. 72nds are out of the questnow!(ha) fingers arent an nimble as they used to be!lol...

The aluminum finish is just the base... Getting into the scheme next

Thanks

Doug

PS... Nathan has ALWAYS been a great source of referance! Very knowlegable, and a great help!

Rigidrider

 

Yes friends, the 32nds are my favorites st this stage of life, but I still enjoy a well detailed 48th. 72nds are out of the questnow!(ha) fingers arent an nimble as they used to be!lol...

Doug

AMEN to that!! I do wonder once in a while into a 1/72 venture but ..............rather deal with larger scales. Which reminds me,, I also have the Bandai 1/24 scale George but that will be a MAJOR project as most of the cockpit has to be scratch built to correct it and the full Nakajima Homare engine needs hefty scratch building too.

 

Did some work on my George over the weekend. Got the fuselage and wings together and all seams closed up and polished. I also shot the ID bands on the wing leading edges. The paint portion will be coming up pretty quick.

WOW... A 24th scale George! What a find!

Looking good Doug

David

Rigidrider

WOW... A 24th scale George! What a find!

Yep, factory sealed and cheap under25$

Thanks David! So far so good... I try not to look to far into the build, I tend to forget things when I do, trying to rush things I thought of two or three steps down the list.(grin) But I think its going to  come out as planned!

Doug

plasticjunkie

Rigidrider

WOW... A 24th scale George! What a find!

Yep, factory sealed and cheap under25$

That's a heck of a deal on a heck of a kit! 

Only thing about those large kits is I feel like I have to detail the krap out of them instead of building out of the box. 

You guys are doing some fantastic work! Very inspiring!

Cliff: Would you mind adding my Zero from round 2? It's the big Tamiya A6M2.

Ok, got some more done last night...

Looking good there, mate!

Doug: She looks great. Love the sprayed on hinomaru , some day I'll have to try that instead of decals.

Clemons: Ok, just posted your big Zero from Part II- sorry I haven't been around my PC much and have been following things on my phone- which I'm not very good with typing and editing stuff on.

Looking great Doug!!

Thanks guys... They are actually real easy to do with a compass and some clear acetate sheeting, and its the only way I can get the thinning faded paint look without doing alot to the decals. I found some very interesting things out about my aircraft and pilot I'll share later. I now now that neither survived the war, But the story of their demise I thought was very interesting. I wasnt even looking for the pilot at the time but was reading about the Sentai when I ran across the story.

Doug

I agree, it does look a lot better than decals Doug. I'm interested in how you use the clear acetate for it.

Cheers

Tony

Thanks Tony... What I did was to take a compass and scribe the right sized circle on the acetate then carefully cut it out, being clear and able to be seen through, it makes it easy to line up where you need evenly on both sides of the wings. The smaller fuselage markings are done the same way, just cut the white mask slightly larger then the red one, spray the white, allow to dry, then again being the mask is clear you can line it up evenly on thr white and spray your red.

You only need one of each and a little lacquer thinner will clean the paint off the mask and be ready to use again. I have done german national markings the same way, but they are a bit more complex and involve several more masks and steps.

If you dont have a compass handy just lay your clear sheet over a decal and trace the circle that way.Hope that helps, and I can take pictures and post the pieces I made if you would like.

Take care

Doug

Doug, looking really good, and thanks for the tip on the home made masks.  

Still not sure, but is it the cut out disc, or the outer portion of the acetate that is used as a mask, and do you use tape to hold in place when ready to spray?

I've seen before a compass tool that holds a cutting blade instead of  drawing instrument - that would really come in handy here.

example;

regards,

Jack

Thanks Doug, just going to have to try that.

Interesting tool there Jack, looks like it would make it really easy.  

Hey jack, nice looking tool! actually I use the film with the hole cut in it. Now ... you can use the disc you cut out but the way I have made them, the disc is pretty much cut up when finished. You could however just cut the disc from another piece, if desired. Not sure if the cutter on that tool would easily cut the clear that I use, I would have to measure but I believe it would be too much for that cutter. The thickness I use is about the thickness of a card stock or possibly an index card thickness. I get it at hobby lobby in a sheet about 24" by 36" ? again I will measure later and let you know. I usually cut and leave enough around the outside th make a handle to hold while painting. the fuselage being curved can be a bit tricky and I just hold against it best as I can and spray carefully around edges. Later today, I'll take some pictures and show you what I have done. Take care...

Doug

Painted Hinomaru do look good and painting is the best way to match reds if you're painting other red markings. I use an Olfa compass cutter much like the one shown upthread. It works well if the blades are sharp.

Just as an aside regarding the Bandai factory sealed kit. Bandai and other Japanese kit manufacturers don't seal their kits. When I go to a hobby shop (I live in Japan), kits are unsealed. Generally you can look inside at the contents. The shops that do have sealed kits seal them themselves. Bigger commercial outlets like Yodobashi Camera tape the boxes with cellophane tape.

Enough of that, back to the bench. The Type 10 is glued together enough to throw a coat of primer at it. I had a holdup in the build losing a part to the carpet monster (plamo Gojira?). It's a small part for a loudspeaker fairing present on the prototype, but modified for the production. Not being able to the part, I scratched one. It looks decent under the primer.

The speaker is the small white thingey at the top of the hull. My intent was to this model quick and dirty OOB. So much for that. Which means I needed to add the mesh on the bustle basket that the kit lacks.

So. The kit has been pieced together and sprayed with Mr Surfacer 1500 black. Tomorrow it will get a coat of Tamiya XF-72 Brown (JGSDF).

Super looking armor Johnsan! I've tried in the past but have never had much luck with armor. I do love watching them being built, maybe I will learn something someday!

Any way... A little more done on the Oscar...

This is the markings of the 54th Sentai 3rd Chutai, The Pilot is WO Akira Sugimoto.

This camo was a crudely applied field version adapted by the Sentai.

This was WO Sugimoto's personal aircraft marking.

johnsan - cool little build you got going there.  What did you use for the mesh at the back of the turret?

Doug - very nice progress.  You know, when I think about the way you applied the homemade masks, I'm very impressed witht the result.   There is no noticeable under spray, particularly on the curve of the fuselage.

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I'm still waiting on the shipment of an order from eastern Europe.  They have in stock the Claude, but still trying to find me the Nakajima A4N1.

regards,

Jack

Thank you Jack... Yeah, the curve of the fuselage is a little more difficult, in the 1st and 3rd picture you can see my masks, You have to try and roll the mask slowly over the curve at the same time your spraying. I also spray from the edge of the mask inward towards the center to avoid the underspray. Also I dont apply too heavy a coat at one time. I should have the pattern done by tomorrow.

Take care...

Doug

Johnsan: Looks really cool, I'm impressed with the detail there on the machine gun. And that's interesting- I just figured the kits came from the factory with cellophane already on them with just the boxes and instructions maybe different depending on where they were being sent.

Doug: I love the tail arrow there, super cool way to pull it off and very nice results. I was about to ask if you were free-handing the camo pattern or using a mask until I saw the mask in a couple of your photos there! I've got to try another camoed aircraft like that if my airbrush was acting all stupid on me lately.

Jack: You've only got 11 and a half months to go in the GB! Very cool, nice to see something a little different, that's going to be tiny in 1/72nd. 

Nice work johnsan!

Doug that Oscar is looking awesome! Can't wait to see it completed.

Planning to start on my Zero today. About to finish my 1/48 HE-111 so that will open up some bench space. Hopefully pictures are to follow later on today.

David