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PACIFIC CARRIER AVIATION GROUP BUILD

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Posted by lewbud on Tuesday, July 15, 2014 6:13 PM

Nice work Bob and Joe!  Joe there's always a need for glue.  Quick story. At a IPMS Nationals a few years back, a beautifully done Tamiya 1/32 Zero had it's wings fall off as a judge picked it up to move it.  When the modeller was found and told what had happened, he was asked if he had glued the wings on.  He replied he didn't think it was necessary because they just snapped into place.  There's always a need for glue.  End of sermon and no, this didn't happen to me.

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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Posted by JOE RIX on Wednesday, July 16, 2014 12:09 AM

Duly noted lewbud. I can assure you that I'm of the "glue everything" school. Yet, the wing mounting design of the Eduard Hellcat is quite different. My intentions were to glue them in place but, during test fitting I had to exert a good bit of effort into push the wing all the way into the slot. Once I had them  on I hesitated to pull them back out again for fear of possibly pulling the fuselage apart. Yeah, they are in there that tight. In addition the fit is excellent with no gaps to fill. Thank you though for the advice and the example.

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Wednesday, July 16, 2014 12:03 PM

Good looking Hellcat, Joe!

 

 

 

 

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Posted by bvallot on Wednesday, July 16, 2014 8:20 PM

Sorry I've been away for so long guys.  There are some really nice things happening here.  I can't wait to start mine.  =]

On the bench:  

Tamiya F4U-1  Kenneth Walsh

 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Thursday, July 17, 2014 12:45 PM

Your Hellcat is an absolute beauty, Joe! Looks like the 48th kit to me! Yes

I simply love how eduard manages to get the surface detail on their 1/72 kits to look as good as on the 1/48 ones btw...

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Posted by JOE RIX on Friday, July 18, 2014 12:46 PM

Thanks Checkmate and Clemens.

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by Raven728 on Friday, July 18, 2014 9:18 PM

Making some progress on the Corsair. A little detail in the cockpit, not too much. I used the kit decal for the control panel, but in hindsight I wish I'd painted it. Oh well.

- Steve

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Posted by JOE RIX on Friday, July 18, 2014 10:19 PM

Excellent progress Steve. Your efforts are looking great.

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by Raven728 on Thursday, July 24, 2014 7:50 PM

Thanks, Joe. I hate to admit it, but I've had to fight the urge to dump this bird in the trash on more than one occasion. This is an inexpensive kit, and sometimes you get what you pay for. My main issue is with the fit; the kit is meant to have posable, folding wings and gear bay doors, and while I appreciate the effort the kit designers put into it, nothing seems to line up correctly. Anyway, here she is with the wings on, not sure if you can see the huge gap in the middle of the right wing. I'm going to do some gap filling but honestly I just want to get this finished and move on from it.

- Steve

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Posted by JOE RIX on Thursday, July 24, 2014 10:45 PM

Steve, I'm glad to see that you are sticking with it. I consider kits like that as an opportunity to put a bend in my learning curve. Despite the kits ill manners it sure appears that you are doing a bang up job on it. Funny you should mention possibly tossing it as I was just over reading the thread in General Modeling about "I Quit" models and folks experiences with kits that simply drove them to give up on them. I encourage you to hang in there as you are doing a great job and hopefully it will improve your skills some.

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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  • From: Michigan
Posted by silentbob33 on Friday, July 25, 2014 7:53 AM

Stick with it Steve, we've all been there with you.  There have been plenty of kits I've wanted to trash, but I just can't bring myself to do it...probably because I'm cheap.  And like Joe said, these are the types of kits that I think we learn the most from.  

On my bench: Academy 1/35 UH-60L Black Hawk

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Posted by Rob.H on Friday, July 25, 2014 8:18 AM

Hi Steve.  I agree with Joe and Silentbob.  If you stick with it you'll get an excellent opportunity to improve your skills.  When I decided to build the Monogram Devastator I also had the newer Great Wall one in my stash.  Part of the reason for building the older (and poorer fitting) kit was nostalgia, as I remembered building it in the 70s.  But it has forced me to learn some things about gap filling as you can see from some of my pics upthread here.

on the bench: Moebius Battlestar Galactica, Tamiya 1/35 M13/40

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Posted by ygmodeler4 on Friday, July 25, 2014 2:01 PM

It's looking great so far.... I've built that Revell Corsair and yes it needs some TLC but it'll look great afterwards, just keep sanding!

-Josiah

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Friday, July 25, 2014 4:55 PM

I'm glad you're not trashing your Corsair, Steve. She looks really nice IMO!

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Posted by Raven728 on Friday, July 25, 2014 7:40 PM

Thanks for the encouragement, guys, it's appreciated. I don't generally get so down on a model, but this one's really gotten on my bad side for some reason. I wouldn't really trash it of course.....or would I? Devil

- Steve

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Posted by Rob.H on Saturday, July 26, 2014 4:53 PM

A long overdue update on my Devastator.  I finally got back at it this week.

Here is a pic of the PE flaps and the original kit parts.  There is certainly finer detail with the PE.  I was expecting these to be a bear to put together but found them surprisingly easy.  Would these normally be open when the plane is parked on the ground?  I plan to leave them open anyway just to show them off, but I was curious how accurate that would be.

on the bench: Moebius Battlestar Galactica, Tamiya 1/35 M13/40

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Saturday, July 26, 2014 6:25 PM

Bob: I have to apologize for taking so damn long to get your Dauntless pic posted to the front page, but I only had access to the forums using my mobile phone and I can't post pics from there...

Rob: Wow, those PE flaps are a huge improvement! Very nice work! I'm pretty sure the flaps would be retracted when the A/C is parked (i didn't see any pics of Devastators with them out at least), but I'd show them off in the open position too...

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Posted by silentbob33 on Saturday, July 26, 2014 7:40 PM

SchattenSpartan

Bob: I have to apologize for taking so damn long to get your Dauntless pic posted to the front page, but I only had access to the forums using my mobile phone and I can't post pics from there...

Rob: Wow, those PE flaps are a huge improvement! Very nice work! I'm pretty sure the airbrakes would be retracted when the A/C is parked (i didn't see any pics of Devastators with the brakes out at least), but I'd show them off in the open position too...

No worries, I figured you'd get to it. Smile Rob those flaps definitely look better.  I'd show them off

On my bench: Academy 1/35 UH-60L Black Hawk

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Monday, July 28, 2014 7:22 PM

Hello... Clemens.  I would like to join this group build.  I am building the Academy TBM-3.  Greg has warned me that if I don't get my build in on time, airstrikes could commence.  It might be worth it just to see the sky light up. Sleep

Thanks!


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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Monday, July 28, 2014 7:35 PM

Oh great, he told you... I guess he forgot to tell you the part about me joking around.. Wink

I'll put you on the build list right away! Welcome aboard! BTW, I love the look of the TBM and that Academy/Accurate Miniatures kit looks really nice (got one myself).

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  • From: Michigan
Posted by silentbob33 on Monday, July 28, 2014 7:37 PM

I have an Accurate Miniatures TBM too, I can't wait to watch you build yours

On my bench: Academy 1/35 UH-60L Black Hawk

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Posted by Greg on Monday, July 28, 2014 8:02 PM

Rob.H, that's a knockout job on those PE flaps if it's your first time. Looks like they were done by an old pro.

Unless military flap operation is totally different than civilian, flaps usually get retracted shortly after landing. But, as mentioned above, you gotta show those off, man.

Steve (Bakster), you did it! Good for you. Yes

I knew Clemens would scold me for passing on his kidding about the airstrike to you. I've been waiting for it,  just made my day. Wink

Have fun!!!

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Monday, July 28, 2014 8:08 PM

Well the Austrian air force isn't that well-equipped, but the sight of Sally B at Duxford inspired me quite a bit... I just have to find out where to get some 500lb bombs...

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Posted by JOE RIX on Monday, July 28, 2014 8:26 PM

Steve: Hot dog! You made it over. Welcome to the GB. Now, hows about some pics of your Avenger. As for Clemens, it should be becoming quickly apparent as to why we call him "The Mad Austrian".

Rob H.: Those flaps are indeed a vast improvement and, regardless, are deserved of being displayed. Nice work.

As for my Hellcat, I am applying the Mr. Surfacer 1200 primer from a rattle can as we speak. Pics to follow soon.

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Monday, July 28, 2014 8:35 PM

Aren't we all mad if we're honest? I always thought the "Mad Austrian" became my unofficial title here because I posted that one myself as a joke, but ah well...

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Posted by JOE RIX on Monday, July 28, 2014 8:42 PM

Well, That is indeed true Clemens. I know for myself that the grain doesn't quite go all the way to the top of the silo. Funny, my wife is quite adept at pointing that out to me rather often.

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Monday, July 28, 2014 10:24 PM

Lol.  Glad to have made your day.

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, July 28, 2014 10:42 PM

Say Joe.  I don't have any new pictures to share yet.  I did get some work done on it though.  I glued the tail rudder halves together and I am scoping what other parts I can glue.  Speaking of glue.  Man..that zap gap sure likes to work its way into everything including panel lines.  I don't think I ruined anything yet but I came close.  The glue job is not as clean as I would have liked but what ya gonna do for my first time in 20 years.  I have to get a system down for sure.  I had to laugh though because I had my iPad by me as I worked.  I heard several dings as emails came in. I thought, oh the boys are busy chatting, because I never get that many message is such a short time.  Hmmm.  I am working...you guys are chatting.  I see how it is. Tongue Tied

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Posted by JOE RIX on Monday, July 28, 2014 11:14 PM

Lol! Oh, did I forget to mention the part about joining a GB has a tendency to cut into one's bench time due to excessive chatting. oops, my badWhistling. Are you building your entire model with Zap-a-Gap? If so, then you really need to get some liquid cement. Testors and Tamiya both make some as does Flexi File. Another good one is Tenax. I use the Tamiya liquid cement. I was thinking that maybe you would like to post some of your previous pics so as to get the rest of the folks here caught with your build so far. Alright, alright , I'll let you, as well as myself, get back to modeling.

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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  • From: Northern Virginia
Posted by ygmodeler4 on Monday, July 28, 2014 11:39 PM

Agreed with everyone else, those flaps are very nice.

Bakster, welcome to the group build and the forums! I look forward to seeing how you're coming along and I hear you on that glue...I've been using some super glue on some models recently and it is getting everywhere on the model, workbench, and myself.

Joe....it's been over two pages sine you've posted pics Surprise Surprise we need something to look at!! Smile Burger

-Josiah

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