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Posted by JOE RIX on Thursday, January 30, 2014 8:33 AM

Hey Josiah, Wow, You are doing terrific. It appears to me that you are tackling all the alterations quite nicely. I regret that I was distracted from the forum for a bit but, it looks like you got the answers you were looking for and have handled them appropriately. Bvallot brought up the point of the lower fuselage window. From my references concerning the 1A the window was indeed installed but, was often simply painted over. Yet, I would consult references on your particular aircraft to verify that.

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by jgeratic on Thursday, January 30, 2014 12:39 AM

ajd3530

Question for you guys. Did the Fleet Air Arm opperate Mk. XV Seafires in the SE Asia theatre? If so, does anyone know where one could find decals for any of those units in 1/48? Thanks!

The first Seafire XV's were on route to the Pacific theater just as the war ended, but would be operational there post war.
Both Xtradecal and Model Alliance have a single XV on their respective Seafire themed decal sets.   Freightdog set looks to have several options:
regards,
Jack

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Posted by bvallot on Thursday, January 30, 2014 12:15 AM

jgeratic: That's a nice page to reference.  I'm always looking for things like that.  

ygmodeler4: I remember hearing recently how the bomb window on the underside of the Corsair was eventually omitted on the D variants.  They were left or painted over on the -1 and  -1As but I think they were left off the Ds.  I would check that out.  =]

On the bench:  

Tamiya F4U-1  Kenneth Walsh

 

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Posted by jgeratic on Wednesday, January 29, 2014 11:58 PM

Josiah, nice work, and interesting question about the flaps.  

From what I can tell from this manual, the flaps would be up during flight and combat:

http://rogerdodger.net/files/F4U_Checklist.pdf

regards,

Jack

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Posted by oortiz10 on Wednesday, January 29, 2014 11:15 PM

Looking good Josiah.  If (and it's a big if) I get in on this GB, it'll be with Tamiya's F4U-1D.  A little different than yours, but it's still good to see your progress.  Gives me some idea of what I might be up against.

Hey, just as an FYI, that cut-out in the flap is a step, but you did the right thing filling it in on your build.  Here's what one of my reference books says:

The cut out step in the inner flap section was only on the right side, and it was found on late F4U-1Ds and all F4U-4s.  It was not a production standard on F4U-1s or F4U-1As, however, because the flaps were interchangeable, some of these earlier Corsairs may have had them fitted as replacements.

Just thought you might find that interesting.

Anyway, keep up the good work!

Cheers,

-O

-It's Omar, but they call me "O".

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Posted by ygmodeler4 on Wednesday, January 29, 2014 1:16 PM

Found out that this is proving to be quite a test in patience and skills though as this model definately wasn't meant to be built as a bird with the wheels and flaps up. Here's where I'm at so far today....

Here's a wing to show one of the flaps up, the outboard flaps on the wings after the "bend" were the easiest...

Then there's the matter of the flaps directly near the fuselage, before the "bend" if you will....
First off, on the starboard side of the aircraft, one of the flaps has a square missing, I believe this is the foothold or what have you for pilots, I read in some review that the earlier corsairs did not have this, I can't remember when they added it but I looked at some photos of the birdcage corsairs and they did not have this.

So with my limited supply of sheet styrene I cut and sanded out a piece to fit the top half of the flap, and glued it in...

Unfortunately though my sheet styrene is too thick to be able to do that to both sides but not thick enough to cover up the hole on the bottom half...

So I filled in the hole with putty, it's deeper than I wanted it to be, but at least there is a bottom for the putty to sort of adhere to.

This is what both flaps look like, I needed to remove the tabs on the end, and the thing hanging off the side on the smaller flap.

In addition, where the flaps are now going to be, theres a bunch of empty holes that you can see where the tabs were inserted,


When I dry fitted the flaps on, you could see the holes, so I had to fill them with putty...

Here is one side of the flaps dry fitted, still have a lot of work left ahead on just the flaps, but the good news is after this there isn't to much to be done construction wise.

-Josiah

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Posted by ygmodeler4 on Tuesday, January 28, 2014 6:28 PM

Well I got some more progress today after class and work, got all it glued up and did a bunch of sanding, 

Here's my question, for an inflight bird the flaps would be up correct? The instructions have it so that all the flaps are down

as you can see, the tab fits in to make it down, so if the in-flight should be up I'll just remove the tab and play  with it but I need to know if it should be up or down...

thanks for any help and input guys

-Josiah

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Posted by ygmodeler4 on Tuesday, January 28, 2014 3:38 PM

Thanks  a lot Joe and O,

O-thanks a lot for correcting me on that, I do appreciate it and will certainly fix it...I know being a teacher certainly takes up a lot of time...I'm a college student so I don't quite as much work as you, but if you do find the time after you get those builds out of the way I know I would enjoy your presence in this GB and I'm sure I can speak for everyone else in that as well...the more the merrier as they say!

-Josiah

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Posted by oortiz10 on Tuesday, January 28, 2014 12:17 AM

Hey Josiah,

I've been lurking in the wings of this GB, kickin' around the idea of jumping in.  Unfortunately, as a teacher, I don't have a whole lot of free time.  That and I already have two builds going in the Trainer GB.  Maybe I can find some time to build a kit for this one, too.

Anyway, I just wanted to compliment you on your build and hopefully share what you'll consider a helpful piece of info.  On your Corsair, the instrument shroud ("dashboard") should be black on the Corsair, and the cut out behind the pilot should be the same color as the fuselage exterior color.  It's an easy fix, but I wanted to see if I could share it with you before you got the transparencies glued on.

Anyway, hope my two cents help.  Keep up the good work.  Watching your build is tempting me to get out a PTO Corsair...

Cheers!

-O

-It's Omar, but they call me "O".

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Posted by JOE RIX on Monday, January 27, 2014 11:52 PM

Josiah: Very cool idea for your Corsair. Everything is looking good and nice work on the pilot. Boy, that definitely brings back memories of my bedroom when I was younger. Every one of my airplane models were hung from the ceiling. I'll be doing that again if I build all the kits in my stash. In fact not only will I be hanging them from my man cave ceiling but also from the living room, dining room. bathroom and kitchen's also. Really don't think that will fly with wife unit.Big Smile

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by ajd3530 on Monday, January 27, 2014 10:29 PM

Question for you guys. Did the Fleet Air Arm opperate Mk. XV Seafires in the SE Asia theatre? If so, does anyone know where one could find decals for any of those units in 1/48? Thanks!

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  • From: Northern Virginia
Posted by ygmodeler4 on Monday, January 27, 2014 10:07 PM

OH! I almost forgot...here are my eventual plans for this gal.... 

I built this zero in a weekend to kinda get back into the swing of things 6 months ago...

Well, when I started building her I thought, how cool would it be if I went back to my days of childhood and hung it on my ceiling? Well I decided to put a twist on it...I don't know if you can tell but I turned the pilots head kinda to the left so he's looking behind him and hung the zero up like this....

So if you're not catching on yet....I have the zero in a downward left bank and I'm gonna hang this corsair up behind the zero and have a dogfight happening right when I walk in my room.

-Josiah

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Posted by ygmodeler4 on Monday, January 27, 2014 10:01 PM

Well I've got some more progress on this beautiful bird. Not much, but progress is progress! Again sorry for the quality or lack there of the pictures...

First off, this is where I'm at in the glue stage with the fuselage, got it all closed up, when I get home from classes tomorrow  I'll see where I need to putty and get that taken care of.

Next up is the pilot figure...almost have all the painting done for him, just need to paint his face, then his boots, metal buckles, then a flat coat and a wash to give him some depth. I know the quality sucks, again I apologize, but you get the gist...

And here are a couple steps ahead dry fitting...everything looks like its gonna fit pretty decent so thats good...

Well there ya have it, I don't think I'll get enough done tomorrow to post pics...well maybe I can get the pilot done, who knows.

-Josiah

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Posted by Tal Afar Dave on Monday, January 27, 2014 12:01 PM

For clarification, this is the pacific carrier aviation GB....but, it is restricted to World War II??  If not, I may continue on with my original F-4 Phantom build as I plan on building one that supported carrier operations over Vietnam.  What are your thoughts??

Thanks,

Dave

2022 New Year's Resolution:  Enter 1 group build and COMPLETE a build this year!!  Why Photobucket did you rob me of my one Group Build Badge???  Must be part of the strong anti-Monogram cartel!!!

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Posted by ygmodeler4 on Monday, January 27, 2014 10:07 AM

Thanks guys...

Joe, no seat harnesses on this one, I'm adding the pilot as this bird will be "in flight." Kind of a shame as the details in the gear bays are pretty decent OOB but I bought this bird to be displayed in the form the actual plane was made for, dominating the skies. I'll explain more a little later on in the build.

-Josiah

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Posted by JOE RIX on Monday, January 27, 2014 8:03 AM

Hey Josiah, Looks to me that you have a real nice start. Good looking work on the engine and cockpit. Have you got some seat harnesses to add to the cockpit? You've got some really work going there so keep bringing the good stuff.

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Sunday, January 26, 2014 11:59 PM

Looking good, Josiah!

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Posted by ygmodeler4 on Sunday, January 26, 2014 9:37 PM

Here's what I have so far, at least worth taking pictures of....

Sorry the pictures are terrible, at least they're better than my phone.

I love lacrosse, and like hockey more than football, but I'll watch a Broncos game any day.

-Josiah

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Sunday, January 26, 2014 1:13 PM

I can't say anything about football. We don't have that here in Austria. Only soccer and I think that's lame Sad

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Posted by bvallot on Sunday, January 26, 2014 12:30 PM

NOLA is behind Peyton and the Broncos!  =D

On the bench:  

Tamiya F4U-1  Kenneth Walsh

 

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Posted by JOE RIX on Sunday, January 26, 2014 9:45 AM

No doubt Josiah. I attended Elway's farewell at Mile High and it ripped my heart out. My wife and I are having fun with this Super Bowl as she is from Seattle. Although she is not a big fan of football she does like the Seahawks.

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by ygmodeler4 on Sunday, January 26, 2014 9:20 AM

1/48 Revell, Ill be posting some pics in the aircraft section when I get time.

Itll be good to see the Broncos bring home the trophy once more, all I remember from the last time was crying as Elway gave his retirment speech, I was a young guy back then...still under 6' ;)

-Josiah

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Posted by JOE RIX on Sunday, January 26, 2014 9:15 AM

Josiah: Sounds like an excellent project. Which PV-1 did you build? The Revell 1/48 or Minicraft 1/72? I love the Ventura and have all those kits in my stash.

ygmodeler4
Also, glad to see another Broncos fan on the forums

I'm not a fan. I am an orange bleeding raging Bronco fanatic. GO BRONCOS!!!!!

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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  • From: Northern Virginia
Posted by ygmodeler4 on Sunday, January 26, 2014 9:07 AM

Its a birdcage, Im just gonn  do the basic light blue with the light grey underneath wuth the kit decals, I believe its for VMF-213 if my memory serves correct? I still have a bunch of paint left over from my PV-1 and from what I understand planes in 1943 were still painted this way.

Also, glad to see another Broncos fan on the forums

-Josiah

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Sunday, January 26, 2014 7:05 AM

3 Corsairs already! Do you have the "Birdcage" kit or the norman "bubble"-canopy version?

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Posted by JOE RIX on Sunday, January 26, 2014 7:03 AM

Welcome to the GB Josiah! Another F4U Corsair? Oh, this good. Very good indeed. I'm looking forward to building a like kit along with you. Do you have idea which markings your going to use?

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Sunday, January 26, 2014 6:58 AM

Sure, welcome aboard!

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Posted by ygmodeler4 on Saturday, January 25, 2014 11:51 PM

Id like to jump in if thats ok, bought Tamiya's F4U-1 in 1/48 yesterday. I started it today but I dont have much done.

-Josiah

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Saturday, January 25, 2014 6:01 PM

Hey Joe, I just placed an order at Hobbylink Japan for the Aero Detail book and Hasegawa's P-47 and Bf 190 G-6 (those big Hasegawa kits are dirt cheap over there). Thanks for the tip on that book!

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Posted by lewbud on Saturday, January 25, 2014 5:50 PM
Rob, that is a cool cockpit.

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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