RAF Group Build feeler

Just messing with you Bish!  I'd love to build my TSR.2, but I don't have anyplace to it once it's done.  Put me down for Airfix's Sabre in 1/72.  I may do a Mustang as well, don't know yet.

I'll have to see where I'm at with the other GB's then.  If I jump in it will be with the old 1/48 Monogram Mossey done as the night fighter version in the kit.

What color green would be appropriate for RAF vehicles in the mid to late 60's?  Found a picture of a Mini in RAF service and it looks interesting. I'm on my second MINI.  First was an 05 Cooper S, now drive an 11 MCS.

Sounds like you have some nice ones to choose from there lewbud. I did a quick search, seems after the war it would be RAF Blue. Can't find anything on the 60's, but i did find of an RAF Minin in green and it looked like the Bronze green we use now.

Be great to have you GH. Feel free to jump in later if you wnat to clear thge back log first.

rooster513

 

Bish

 

 

hogfanfs

Umm, Bish, would a Spitfire qualify??

 

 

 

 

There i was, haveing a nice day (well, for a Monday). I got to work, had a few mins spare, thought i would pop on and see what you guys were up to. I saw loads of posts for the 2 GB feelers and thought great, loads on interest.

And then i saw this. Some one had to ask didn't they. And it had to be you.

Yes, that infernal machine counts.

If there is a bright side, at least my day can't get any worse. Thanks Bruce.

 

 

 

 

 

Ok Bish, so it's driving me crazy so I have to know....why don't you like the Spitfire? Being it's from your home country I thought it was mandatory to love it??

 

Exactly, that one of the reasons i don't I am just tired of having it rammed down our throats. And we love to hype up our role in WW2, and and the Spit is hyped up way beyond the hype. You would think it won the war alone, let alone the Battle of Britain.

Give me a nice 109 any day.

lewbud, that pic you found of a a RAF Mini, is that one with a yellow strip down the side. IOf so, i don't think that 1960's but 1982. I found a site with a pic of it next to a Vulcan being readied for bombing raids during the Falklands war.

http://www.jannaludlow.co.uk/Classic_Minis/Curiosities.html

Bish, thanks.  I found several on the RAF Mini Club's Facebook page.  Including an Air Police car in black, and one in a metallic blue that was used to rush ready crews to their aircraft (according to the caption).

Bish, thanks for that site.  The first pic I found was of the car itself, which is why I guessed it was 60's vintage.  I didn't realize how cobbled together the Blackbuck mission was until I read their synopsis.  Maybe in its infinite wisdom, Airfix will grace us with a new tool Vulcan.

I think the 1980's Mini was pretty much the same as the 1960's version. I wpould not have known if i had not found that site.

I know what you mean, but knowing how the British forces work, it doesn't surprise me. Yep, a new Vulcan would be nice. I had thought they might have done a new one in 2012, but we didn't even get a re-box.

Bish

 

 

rooster513

 

Bish

 

 

hogfanfs

Umm, Bish, would a Spitfire qualify??

 

 

 

 

There i was, haveing a nice day (well, for a Monday). I got to work, had a few mins spare, thought i would pop on and see what you guys were up to. I saw loads of posts for the 2 GB feelers and thought great, loads on interest.

And then i saw this. Some one had to ask didn't they. And it had to be you.

Yes, that infernal machine counts.

If there is a bright side, at least my day can't get any worse. Thanks Bruce.

 

 

 

 

 

Ok Bish, so it's driving me crazy so I have to know....why don't you like the Spitfire? Being it's from your home country I thought it was mandatory to love it??

 

 

 

 

 

Exactly, that one of the reasons i don't I am just tired of having it rammed down our throats. And we love to hype up our role in WW2, and and the Spit is hyped up way beyond the hype. You would think it won the war alone, let alone the Battle of Britain.

Give me a nice 109 any day.

 

 

I thought that might be it. I'll be sure to give the Hurricane some love too with my build

Absolutely I'm interested! Let me inventory "stash" and make plans... I have a Typhoon thats just been begging to be built, among some others...Doug  

Be great to have you on board Doug.

I just purchased a 1/48 Fairey Firefly and Fulmer. Which I thought were very interesting subjects. I have several other GB's to finish, but, I'm looking forward to this one.

Bruce, both of those were carrier born aircraft used by the navy. Though one RAF Sqn did use the Fulmer but only for 6 months as far as i can tell.

I also have a….ahem… excuse me….a 1/32 er…....Spitfire I may have time for  

Steve, again, the Swordfish was mainly used by the Navy. If your doing a pre war FAA aircrfat, thats ok. The RAF did use them during the war as well, but would need to check the markings. I know they used the Mk III, i have a conversion for the Airfix 72nd Mk I, and i think a few Sqn's may have used the Mk I.

It can be tricky telling RAF from FAA aircraft. They have often have similar schemes and there are no markings which indicate which branch of service they are from.

Oops, I misread the instructions. It is defiantly from the squadron who attacked the Bismarck so it wouldn’t work.

That leaves the...gulp...spitfire

The ''Thing'' will do fine.

I'll watch out for that swordfish though. How you can post a progress build. I am hopeing to do an Ar 196 from the Bismarck for the floatplane GB next year.

modelcrazy

I also have a….ahem… excuse me….a 1/32 er…....Spitfire I may have time for  

 

Which 1/32 Spit do you have Steve? I've got a Hasegawa I'll probably build up for this one.

Rooster,

The old Hase Mk-5B clipped wing kit. Doesn’t see to be supper detailed but I'll see what I can do with it.

Bish,

I'll be building the Stringbag in a month or two and would be happy to do a WIP on it. I understand from others who have built it that the wing alignment is a bear. We'll see I can get through the wing fit trial.

Bish, I will apologize to you. I had yankee tunnel vision going on. I ignorantly thought all British aircraft were RAF. But, and this is one of the reason I like this forum so much; I learned something new. 

Anyway, I still think both aircraft are very interesting. But, I do have several other true RAF aircraft in the stash, and with 5 months before it starts, I may look for something less well known to build. We'll see. 

I thought about one of those, as Bish so quaintly put it, "things" but decided not to drive him to drink. 

So, the "blood sucker, giveth of malaria" it shall be.

Will a 1/24 Mosquito count?

Just need to correct you though. The South African Airforce or South African Aviation Corps (SAAC) was formed in 1912:

"Although military aviation was still in its infancy at the time that the Union Defence Force (UDF) was formed, the South African Defence Act (1912) made provision for the establishment of the South African Aviation Corps (SAAC) as part of the Active Citizen Force (ACF). In August 1912 the Commandant-General of the Citizen Force, Brig Gen C.F. Beyers, was sent to England and Europe by General Smuts to observe and report on the use of aircraft in military operations.

Brig Gen Beyers was so impressed by what he saw, that when he returned to the Union, he strongly recommended setting up a school of aviation. The Government subsequently contracted Mr Cecil Compton Paterson to provide flying training to a select group of ten aviators at his flying school at Alexanderfontein near Kimberley.

Training and War

In April 1914 six of the initial ten pupils were appointed as probationary lieutenants in the ACF and sent to England to undergo further training at the Central Flying School at Upavon where five of them eventually qualified. On the outbreak of war in August 1914, the South Africans were granted permission to join the newly formed Royal Flying Corps (RFC). They were to participate in the first aerial reconnaissance and artillery spotting missions over France during the closing months of 1914."

http://www.af.mil.za/about_us/history.html

I think Bish's point is of an air force being independent, that is, not part of the army or navy for example.

The SAAC wasn't independent, right in the body of the above text, states it was part of the Active Citizen Force, which was essentially a reserve pool of temporary conscripts and volunteers.

regards,

Jack

Gerhard, yes, a Mossie would count.

And yes, jack is right, its to mark the RAF being the worlds first independant Air Force. The SAAF website itself says 'The South African Air Force, the second oldest air force in the Commonwealth,'

Although the South Africans can take some credit as it was a Select Committee lead by General Smuts, which suggested the creation of an independant air force. He then wanted to do the same for SA.

OK, I stand corrected then, apologies.

None needed, and be glad to have you on board when the time comes.

Well, I got a 1/48 Trumpy Westland Whirlwind and a De Havilland Hornet. Now to decide which one, and if AM will be involved with the build.

Is that Westland Whirlwind as in the helicopter or the 2 engine fighter.