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Posted by BrandonD on Thursday, June 29, 2017 6:28 PM

Well, went home at lunch today to put the top roundels on. Aaaaaand... left one in the water too long Bang Head.

Email is off to Eduard inquiring about a replacement set.

In the meantime, I suppose I can get to work on the ordnance, propeller and undercarriage.

Ugh.

Bristol F.2B

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Posted by BrandonD on Thursday, June 29, 2017 6:16 PM

Thanks Steve! Love the work on that Tonka. Perfect scheme for this build, too.

Dan - nice start on that Lancaster.

Bish - the paint I used is Mr. Paint PC10 (Late) for the green and Mr. Paint Clear Doped Linen (can't remember if it's type 1 or type 2) for the underside.

-BD-

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Thursday, June 29, 2017 3:50 PM

mc:  excellent!  (as usual!)

Jack:  thanks for posting the photo; that gives some options to consider; it does look like the interior wing components on the left side might be in interior green?

Dan:  you're off to a very good start, there

Got my new airhose yesterday, so I put a matte coat on the front half and wings of the Hampden this afternoon, and can resume building

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, June 29, 2017 10:10 AM

Steve: Great to hear. It's always been funny to me. Sometimes the huge ones go down without any issues at all and sometimes mine want to stick and tear. 

Dan: Wow, that looks awesome! I've got the 1/72nd Hasegawa Lanc but haven't had the guts to tackle her yet. Looking forward to seeing how yours goes. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by DantheMan85 on Thursday, June 29, 2017 10:05 AM

 

Hello there great work going on here, I've been away for awhile but have jumped back into my Avro Lancaster. Have the bomb bay floor attached to the side supports, and the pilot's seat painted up. Looking ahead the color's I'll be using for the main camouflage are, Model Master Dark Earth #2054, Tamiya RAF Dark Green XF-81 & Tamiya XF-1 Flat Back. I'm not looking forward to masking those windows.

 

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Dry fit.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, June 29, 2017 9:30 AM

Damion, Bish and Gamera thank you so much.

Gamera, actually they went on like a dream. I pre-cut the areas where the vortex generators are and the decal laid down very nicely. The “100th” and “1915 – 2015” wording were separate decals on the upper tail as well as the “31 Sdn 100th Anniversary” on the spine were separate decals so that helped a lot.

Steve

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, June 29, 2017 7:38 AM

PJ: Now that's coming along great! 

Fred: Good to see her together and all primed up! 

BD: Love how you're simulating the look of the skeleton with the tape pre-shading. 

Steve: Wow, almost there now. Hope that giant decal on the tail-fin didn't give any problems. 

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, June 29, 2017 4:17 AM

Steve, loving the look of the Tornado. Can't wait to see that finished.

Some great work again guys and love all the info thats being thrown around. Its so tricky trying to keep up with it all but fun at the same time.

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, June 29, 2017 4:16 AM

Fred, looking nice, be good to see the camo going on.

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, June 29, 2017 4:14 AM

Brandon, that does look amazing, the paint job has really come out well. Whats the colour you used for the wings.

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, June 29, 2017 4:12 AM

Damian, no woprries, be looking forward to them when you can. And safe trip.

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Posted by damouav on Thursday, June 29, 2017 1:44 AM

Steve,

Your Tornado looks sensational, just another excellent build.

Keep up the great work

Damian

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Posted by jgeratic on Thursday, June 29, 2017 12:28 AM

Hi Check, I did a little more digging about interior colours.  Yep, more 'muddy waters' as here is an example of a Blenheim with open flaps - looks to have camouflage colours on both of the interior surfaces:

What I do know for certain is by mid war Britain did have a shoratge of aluminum (powder) for their paints.  Discussion can be found of this affecting their tank production, having them switch from silver to white interiors, but I've yet to find anything concerning the aircraft industry. 

It could be aircraft factories had first dibs on the aluminum paint, and any touchups done at maintenance units had to resort to other paint sources?

regards,

Jack

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, June 29, 2017 12:02 AM
Thanks Fred, I'll be starting my Hurricane as soon as I finish the Tornado, or is it a Hurricane starts Tornados Hmm Anyway, once I'm done with one weather phenomena I’ll start the other. Your is coming right along.
BD, I like the tape idea and I think it turned out great. Fabric taping really doesn’t show much on real planes. It’s just enough to hint at the taping.
The Tonka is almost finished. The decals are on and ready for another coat of a gloss coat and some washes. After, I just need to add the gear and pitot tube.
 
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Posted by DasBeav on Wednesday, June 28, 2017 9:52 PM

Looking good, Brandon. Next time I do a Biplane(if there is a next time) I will be smart like you and prepaint the wings. Spent too much time masking tonight....still no paint. lesson #218 learned....Sad

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Posted by damouav on Wednesday, June 28, 2017 5:18 PM

 I leave the fourum for one night (a time zone thing) and you guys pump out these amazing updates!

DB - Great progress, cant wait to see it done.

Fred - Your Hurricane is coming along a treat.

PJ - Excellent idea for a simple and effective jig, your spit is coming along brilliantly.

Brandon - What a subject, I watch with great anticipation your the rigging process. A great subject and build as well, brilliant work.

Bish - I had a go with a few outdoor pictures for you to post, but I'm unhappy with them all. Im away dealing with family issues for the next couple of days. On my return I will have another go at getting a shot that I'm happy with for you to post.

Keep up the great work everyone.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Wednesday, June 28, 2017 4:46 PM

Thanks Check and BD!

BD try to use EZ Line for your rigging. The stuff is magical, and the CA works instantly. That preshading on the ribs looks good. i have also seen it where they spray the black and run thin tape lines on the ribs then shoot the other color, remove the tape and shoot the top color to fade the black lines.

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Wednesday, June 28, 2017 4:24 PM

pj:  that's a nice looking Spitfire; and the jig you made is a great idea

Jack:  might what you posted also be true for Blenheims?  The Airfix painting instructions for their recent, new-mold kit calls for interior green inside the flaps and wheel wells.  I've wondered if that's true

Fred:  Hurricane appears to be progressing well again, now that you got the parts

Brandon:  what a fantastic looking Bristol!  Nice paintwork!  It's truly impressive.

And--tracking from Amazon says I should get a new airhose for the airbrush today, to replace the cat toy the old one became.   

 

 

 

 

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Posted by BrandonD on Wednesday, June 28, 2017 1:04 PM

I got some paint down on the Brisfit last night. I's really weird to me to switch to the biplane paint sequence, but it's also a nice change and problem solving exercise.

I wanted to highlight the rib tapes a bit without going overboard, so I decided to black base them and then spray the tapes individually before filling in the between areas and then overspraying to blend. It worked decently on the clear doped linen, but the PC10 is really too dark to notice much delineation. I may use lighter oils to enhance them later on, but I don't see too much variation on the real ones, so I may not.

Here is the process:

Bristol F.2B

And this is the result after putting on the lower wing ailerons and decals. If you build this kit, note that the instructions are wrong for the top ailerons, and they are reversed. I painted them per instructions before attaching them, so I need to respray them now. 

Bristol F.2B

I also attached the elevators to the horizontal stabilizer. I wanted them dropped slightly, so I glued one in place and let it set, then glued the other one. To maintain symmetry, I clamped them together.

 

Bristol F.2B

That's it for now. I think when it comes to rigging the dual wires, I'll drill two holes in a sturdy piece of plastic and use that as an alignment tool so my wires actually run parrallel. This is fun.

-BD-

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Posted by BrandonD on Wednesday, June 28, 2017 12:51 PM

Thanks, all!

PJ: Great work on the Spit. Can't wait to see it in paint.

Fred: Loving the Hurricne. I don't know why, but it's one of my favorite fighters. I think it just evokes the tooth-and-nail fight of the early war in the air.

Eric: Thanks for the tips. I think I am going to try my hand at doing the dual wire, but I'm not goingto worry that it's not the aerodynamic wire. I'm just not that crazy haha. I'll be using EZ line and CA and accelerator, so I don't anticipate it being anything more than tedious, but we shall see.

-BD-

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Wednesday, June 28, 2017 11:48 AM

Thanks Bish and Jack.

 

Jack I saved the directives info posted by Edgar on the link you provided which is really interesting and as he says, muddies the waters.

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Posted by Fredthefoot`s Models on Wednesday, June 28, 2017 11:47 AM

damouav  thanks mate :)

Modelcrazy thats looking awsome :)

Armor_Aficionado looks great so far :)

DasBeav looking the part now :)

Gamera thanks mate :)

Rigidrider glad you got the gap sorted looking good :)

BrandonD great detail work :)

Bish glad to hear you had a great time away mate and thanks had to find him lol :)

plasticjunkie thanks mate :)

my build well today the missing wheel parts arrived thank god , was driveing me crazy not building lol there fitted on masked it and a coat of black microfiller primer :)

 

 

 

  

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Posted by jgeratic on Wednesday, June 28, 2017 11:10 AM

plasticjunkie

Next will be masking of the clear parts and she will be ready for some colors. I questioned the ROG instructions as they called for interior green for the flap and wheel well colors. I did a lot of web surfing and see where Sky, aluminium and even the underside color was used. Now I'm even more perplexed.  :confused:

 

Coming along quite nicely there.  I believe the interior grey green was standard  in the wells and flaps during the post war era.  According to a 1943 document found by the late Edgar Brooks, the area in question should of been painted aluminum when at the factory, but some may have been altered once in the field.

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/43661-spitfire-undercart-wheel-wells-and-inside-of-doors-colour/

regards,

Jack

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, June 28, 2017 10:45 AM

Coming on nicely PJ, like the jig.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Wednesday, June 28, 2017 9:58 AM

BD- The pit looks awesome as usual.

Doug- Great recovery ref. that gap at the wing root. You'd  think they have things figured out.

Beav- The Walrus is shaping up nicely.

Fred- That Hurricane looks great!

Check- Great masking job on the clear parts.

Again have been tied up with life things but got some work done as of late. The fuselage is mostly together and added the belly scoop. I used this sort of jig to keep the part clamped down and even with the wing bottom.

Then attached the radiators. Used the clamps to slightly spread the walls out to get even lines on the counter sink areas.

Everything fit like a glove. The belly scoop just needed a very light sanding to get rid of the seam midway back. The front has a panel line with rivets

The guns went on and had the barrels slightly drilled out more than what ROG had them. The flaps were also cut at the bending angle since they will be in the down position.

  

Next will be masking of the clear parts and she will be ready for some colors. I questioned the ROG instructions as they called for interior green for the flap and wheel well colors. I did a lot of web surfing and see where Sky, aluminium and even the underside color was used. Now I'm even more perplexed.  :confused:

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Posted by Rigidrider on Tuesday, June 27, 2017 7:24 PM

Thanks all... Brandon, I hear ya about the threads! Man, Just miss a day and your left in the dust! lol... But to each and every one... You guys are the BIG reason, I like it here and stay here. Lots of good folks and friendly banter. Thanks again...

Doug

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, June 27, 2017 5:40 PM

I suppose i should really try and catch up with what you guys have been up to.

Steve, great progress on the Tonka. I really like the lok of those tail markings. Big fan of xtradecal myself, nice to hear they are working for you.

Check, loving the Hampden, camo is looking good.

Fred, good to here bader didn't get away from you for long. Coming along nicely.

Das, i do actually like that pre shading. Be interested to see how that looks with some paint on.

Doug, good work on the gap. Really taking shape there.

BD, nice to see it underway. Some stunning work in that pit.

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, June 27, 2017 5:28 PM

The timing was forced on me a bit. I wanted to do it before our schools broke up and the prices went through the roof, but after my eldest step daughter finished Uni so she could look after the youngest. Also needed a bit of time to save up some spending pennies. But i must admit i wasn't expecting it to be that hot, but seems even for Rome it was warmer than normal. If we go back, and i am sure we will, it will deffinetly be a bit soner in the year.

There were a lot of tourists there, especially a lot of Americans, but i recon it will be far busier in a month or so so was not to bad. So heat ashide, it all went really well and i was over the moon at what i got to see.

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Posted by EBergerud on Tuesday, June 27, 2017 12:47 PM

Brave soul going to Rome in June. Years back I was in Paris during early July and was told that half the people in the city were foreign tourists making high summer the perfect time for the natives to go on the fabled European vacation (almost an entitlement to the Euros: gives them an opportunity to hate each other.) My son and his wife went to Rome in April - a perfect time if you don't mind a little rain - no competition with hordes of tourists. They were both floored by St. Peter's. The 90's restoration of the Sistene Chapel, despite some very nervous moment (how'd you like to screw up the one of most famous art works on the planet?) is considered a spectacular success by almost everyone. Their impression is very common as I understand it: the Chapel is a huge fresco but not a very big place: the Basillica itself is just whopping huge, bigger than it looks in a picture.

Really should build the Hasegawa M. 202 Folgore that sits in my stash. Lovely plane and a most worthy opponent for the RAF and the first wave of USAF fighters in North Africa. Lovely lines.

Eric

 

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, June 27, 2017 8:12 AM

Bish

 

 
modelcrazy

Have fun and go to the Sistine Chapel for me. I missed it due to reconstruction when I was there in the 90's

 

 

 

Thanks, we had a great time. We didn't go into the chapel. To be honest, i had no desire to get anywhere near the vatican. The Mrs wanted to go into St peters basilica, but she wasn't dress properly, so all we managed was the Sq.

We did get into the Forum, Coliseum and a lot of the otehr Roman ruins. Seeing the temple of Caesar and the alter was the highlight for me.

Really nice weekend, damn sore legs though.

 

I hear ya. I went there during some leave I had while being stationed at Lampedusa It, which is a small resort island in the Med which had a US Coast Guard run LORAN Station.

I spoke some Italian but needed directions so I went to the information booth. You know the one with the big question mark on it. I asked the guy in there, using my best Italian where the Sistine Chapel was, you know "Dove Sistine Chapple?" He said no no, no englese and slammed the window. I then asked some passing nuns, in Italian, and they said, in English, it was closed. I didn't realize my Italian was that bad.

I’m glad you had a good time and the Colosseum is awesome.

Steve

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