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Posted by Bish on Sunday, September 17, 2017 1:56 PM

Scott, looking forward to seeing that. I didn't realise they had markings on the uinderside of the top wing.

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, September 17, 2017 2:07 PM

Got the Reaper finished up this weekend. Not an awful lot of decals for this, the USAF one had a lot more. I was surised that the wing national insignia are done the same way as US aircraft. I had to check some pics to make sure they had not got it wrong. But seems they didn't.

Then added front undrcarrage, prop and weapons.

And finally onto the base.

 

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Posted by Armor_Aficionado on Sunday, September 17, 2017 3:40 PM

Slick looking Reaper, Bish!  I wonder, does the RAF also fly the RQ-4 Global Hawk?  I've never seen the USAF version, but I know the EU (or is it NATO?) flies a European-spec version called the EuroHawk (different sensor package).  I've seen them down at the EADS defense plant at Manching, just outside of Ingolstadt.  That would be a cool one to model.

Meanwhile, progress continues on my Spitfire.  Camo paint now done:  http://pin.it/9o4Wu9Q

 

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, September 17, 2017 4:28 PM

Thanks AA. No, we don't operate the RQ-4. The Germans were in the process of getting them but believe they ran into some problems. NATO has them as does NASA i believe. I have not seen a model of one but would be nice.

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Posted by SteveCB on Sunday, September 17, 2017 7:03 PM

      I finally got around to posting about the Hawker Fury I'm working on for this build.  I started in July, but with the PB disaster, well, you know.  Still trying to figure out how to bring the pics over from postimage.

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Posted by SteveCB on Sunday, September 17, 2017 7:11 PM

Figured out the pics.

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, September 17, 2017 7:35 PM

Bish: She turned out great! It can be difficult to make an all grey subject interesting I love how she turned out. Odd about the insignia, I don't think I'd seen anything non USAF with the single insignia either.

AA & Steve: Nice work guys! Yes

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Posted by jgeratic on Sunday, September 17, 2017 10:49 PM

Hi Bish, now that Reaper is something different isn't it.  Looks good on the base.  Yes

regards,

Jack

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Posted by EBergerud on Monday, September 18, 2017 12:49 AM

Nice kit Bish. Does look menacing. Frankly that's one technology that I think we're all going to wish was never developed. It sure lowers the cost of entry in the doing a boatload of damage game. And the whole idea of war without cost (to yourself) strikes as ultimately delusional.

 

Eric

 

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Posted by Bish on Monday, September 18, 2017 4:23 AM

Thanks guys.

G, no i didn't either. But i did check and it seems correct. You do get 2 sets of decals with it so i had spare on standby just in case.

Eric, i agree completly. I certainly don't agree with moving more and more to this way of wageing war.

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Posted by Armor_Aficionado on Monday, September 18, 2017 4:29 AM

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Posted by Bish on Monday, September 18, 2017 5:39 AM

Nice to see the Fury underway and your able to post Steve. Nice start.

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Posted by scottrc on Monday, September 18, 2017 9:24 AM

Bish

Scott, looking forward to seeing that. I didn't realise they had markings on the uinderside of the top wing.

 

 

Oops, I just realized what I said and it made no sense because there are no markings, man, I gotta stop trying to work on three builds when deprived of sleep.

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Posted by Bish on Monday, September 18, 2017 10:16 AM

lol, no worries Scott, we have all been there.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, September 18, 2017 10:30 AM

Sweet and scary looking Reaper Bish.

I'm still waiting for parts from Italy for the Hurricane. Hopefully they will come in in the next few weeks.

Steve

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Posted by Bish on Monday, September 18, 2017 2:41 PM

Cheers Steve, look forward to seeing that Hurry when those parts arrive.

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Posted by SteveCB on Monday, September 18, 2017 9:03 PM

Here's the Fury as of yesterday.

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, September 19, 2017 1:51 AM

Looking nice Steve. How you finding it to build.

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Posted by SteveCB on Tuesday, September 19, 2017 8:29 AM

Bish, it's a simple kit, but it takes some work to clean it up.  I spent some time filling in ejector holes on the lower wings.  The instructions say you can display the engine, but the engine bay doesn't look any like what the real thing does.  It's fun, though.

 

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, September 19, 2017 8:41 AM

Sounds like the usual old Airfix. But as long as your enjoying it.

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, September 19, 2017 11:49 AM

Looks pretty cool to me SteveCB. Yes

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Posted by lewbud on Tuesday, September 19, 2017 1:15 PM

Bish, 

The Reaper looks great, didn't know the RAF flew them.  I've got the Platz 1/72 RQ-4B in the stash.  It comes with USAF, NASA, and Luftwaffe markings. I was going to build it in NASA markings but two things stopped me.  The first is its footprint. While not a large fore and aft, it is a wide model. Its wingspan is about the size of a B-17, I don't have that kind of real estate available in the display case.  The second is that the NASA birds are preproduction A frames, which means they have a shorter wingspan and fuselage.  This means purchasing a Unicraft kit.  But I digress.

Steve, 

The Fury looks good.  Keep it up!  The RAF built some lovely biplanes in the interest period.

Work is moving slowly on the Tempest.  Painted the underside today with Tamiya's Med. Sea Gray out of the rattle can. Nothing really pic worthy, but one was taken.  I had to order decals as the kit ones were not usable, they came today.  Torn between two aircraft. The first was flown by Wing Commander R P Beamont, primarily because it has a yellow spinner.  The other was flown by Flt. Lt. A.R. Moore.  Nothing really stood out about this plane in the color profiles on the decal sheet.  What made this one attractive is that while I was looking up info on Beamont, I came across a picture of him standing next to this aircraft.  What's in usual about this aircraft is that in the picture (taken from above and to the rear at about 5 o'clock), the invasion stripes are angled in towards the prop, rather than running parallel to the fuselage.  Never done invasion stripes before (outside of Academy's horrid decals on their P-51B).  Might be interesting.  Stay tuned.

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, September 19, 2017 1:51 PM

Thanks lewbud. So there is a 72nd kit of that, didn't realise. The Reapers wingspan is about 11inches, so a good size. But not as much as that RQ-4.

The RAF has had the Reaper since 2007 and they were flown out of Creech AFB in the US, but i think they are now flown from Waddington.

can't wait to see that tempest. You should deffinetly do beamonts mount. Some pilot. Fkying throug the war from start to finish. Worked out how to bring down V-1's, became a test pilot which included the Canberra, Lightning and TSR-2 and then lead international testing of the Tornado.

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Posted by jgeratic on Tuesday, September 19, 2017 3:34 PM

lewbud

  What made this one attractive is that while I was looking up info on Beamont, I came across a picture of him standing next to this aircraft.  What's in usual about this aircraft is that in the picture (taken from above and to the rear at about 5 o'clock), the invasion stripes are angled in towards the prop, rather than running parallel to the fuselage. 

 

 
I think it likely just the forced perspective causing the illusion of angled stripes?  There is also the walkway anti-skid strip adding to the effect (now that is definitey angled).  Another shot of a Tempest from the same Wing, and it looks to be the same thing happening.
 
 
Note the side edge of the  starboard aileron, which is by design angled inwards towards the nose, but the stripes should then be parallel to that if doing the same thing?
 
Also IWM has a photo you can zoom in and compare the cannon bugles to the stripes, to me they look inline.
 
 
regards,
Jack
 
 
 
 
 

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, September 19, 2017 8:29 PM

Yeah I think Jack's right there- it's the angle of the photo and the perspective that makes them appear angled. In any case she should make a very sharp looking model. 

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Posted by lewbud on Wednesday, September 20, 2017 3:41 AM

Alrighty then, Beamont's mount it is. What color yellow would be used for the leading edges on the wings?  Since I've been building the Tempest, I've decided I need a Typhoon.  Now I need a Lightning (I have the TSR already). One of the local hobby shops I go to has the new tool Airfix Lightning (and the Supermarine Swift).   Will have to be very careful the next time I'm there.

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, September 20, 2017 3:58 AM

I am not sure on the exact colour for the yellow, i have seen several discussions as to why but not which colour. I am certain its not the same as the yellow around the roundels. I think just a standard yellow would suffice.

I have the new Airfix Lightning F.2, looks a very nice kit. That TSR.2 would be nice, there used to be some interesting what if markings by Xtradecal for that as well.

 

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, September 20, 2017 7:45 AM

I just use Testor's Model Master yellow. You might want to look around online for colour photos just to be sure. I think it did fade a little with the sun too. 

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Posted by jgeratic on Wednesday, September 20, 2017 10:34 AM

I've checked the literature in my library concerning yellow markings, and they have kept it straight forward and refer to it as just yellow and nothing more.  Personally, I see no reason why it should not be the same yellow as used for roundels?  My reasoning is that it would make it simpler for the factory, MTU and local ground crews to just have to deal with one type of yellow. 

This colour chart is interesting for it's entry on Trainer Yellow for the RAF, also known as Identification Yellow, and used for insignia:

http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/colorcharts/stuff_eng_colorcharts_uk.htm

There is a 1943/44 listing here of both a Lemon and Golden Yellow in use for the RAF, but I notice that in the Soveregn Authentic Colourcoats they only have one yellow.

 

regards,

Jack

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, September 20, 2017 10:37 AM

I didn't know that about the trainer yellow also being called IDyellow.

My thinking on it being differentto the roundels was that i thought the yellow on the roundels looks darker, but maybe i am getting it wrong, having the same colour would make perfect sense.

Xtracolour also has a a yellow it calls RAFRescue yellow, but i think thats for the SAR Sea Kings.

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