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The Race Into Space GB, October 2018 - July 2019 (Ended)

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Posted by modelcrazy on Sunday, March 31, 2019 8:41 PM

That's a good idea for the windows, good job. Yes

Steve

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Posted by PFJN on Sunday, March 31, 2019 8:20 PM

Hi,

I kind of hit a wall on my mini shuttle build a while ago, not being sure how to proceed on the cockpit windows.  As such, I had messed around with a couple ideas but hadn't made a lot of progress, and ended up kind of setting the kit aside (for the most part) as I worked on a couple other builds.  However, now that I am close to finishing up those other builds I have had a chance to get back to the mini shuttle, as shown below.

Initially I had considered just using decals for the windows and frames, but then decided to try making some frames out of thin strip styrene and using putty to fair their edges into the rest of the cockpit.  Unfortunately I ended us messing that up a bit, so using some of the styrene strips that I glued on as a guide, I ended up "carving away" some of the paint, putty and other material until I had some window outlines that I am mostly happy with.  

I think that after a little more clean up I can paint the windows themselves and put on a final coat of white on the rest of the cockpit, and repaint the anti-glare patch infront of the cockpit.  Then I will try and give the whole model a coat of clear/Future and apply the decals.  Unfortunately along the way I have managed to break off both main landing gear, so I will also try and rebuild thoses tooTongue Tied.

Overall though I am hoping to finish up soon. Smile

Pat

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Posted by modelcrazy on Sunday, March 31, 2019 7:32 PM

Outstanding finish on you X1. The decals are looking great Surprise. I will sometimes have issues with applying Solvaset first. As soon as I have problems with the first decal, which is usually some small insignificant one, I'll go to water then finish with Solvaset.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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Posted by mach71 on Sunday, March 31, 2019 6:15 PM

Looking great! And I just saw that your decals say Wright field, I've never seen those on the X-1. I know it was briefly based there before moving to Muroc field.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, March 31, 2019 6:04 PM

Not to beat a dead horse but... decals are done. And guess what? These went on like a charm. I did do something different though. I didn't use Solvaset until after the decals were positioned. Instead, I applied water to the model that is mixed with a tiny amount of dish soap. The result was that I had all kinds of time to fine tune the decals. I applied Solvaset when I had them postitioned, and that really stuck them down. So, I wonder if the Solvaset was my problem the first go. Because, the second that the decals hit the model they were stuck, it was a nightmare. Not sure what to think. I have never had this issue before. I suppose it could gave been a bad batch of decals too.

Anyway--that is done. Now I can hit the model with some Dulcote. I'll wait a few days until the decals are good and dry. In the meantime, I will probably start masking the canopy.

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, March 31, 2019 5:46 PM

Hey Mach--

your project is coming along nicely. Gordo looks great!  Good thinking on the O2 tanks too. Can't wait to see this when it's done. It's gonna be awesome.

Oh--I have no opinion on the capsule color. Hoping the other guys will chime on that for you.

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Posted by mach71 on Sunday, March 31, 2019 5:37 PM

I'm looking forward to that release also! I built it as a kid, I'm not sure which release. Revell I think.

 

I got a lot of housekeeping things done today. Nothing major, just lots of little things.

 

First, I had to make the forward hatch/bulkhead for the capsule. There is a lot of empty space there and you could see right up into the recovery section.

 

 

 

 

I got the recovery section on the capsule, I got the magnets attatched to the antenna section and the recovery section. It holds but not great.

 

 

 

I got the capsule/hatch and the antenna section primed with grey Tamiya, the heatsheild with Rustoleum red/brown primer, and the first coat of aluminum on the retro package.

The window frame primed and painted.

 

 

 

After I put the forward bulkhead in, I got to thinking. I know, bad idea!

There are 2 O2 tanks in there that could be seen. So.... 2 fishing bobbers and some work.

 

 

I stuck a plastic rhinestone on the flat top, some putty.

 

Its not ready yet, but getting there.

 

Finally I got some silver paint on Gordo. I brush painted his helmet and his face.

 

 

I hope to get the 1st coat of black on the capsule tomorrow. I'm still not sure if I'll so

semi gloss black, gloss black, or gunmetal. I have all 3 on hand.

I think I'm leaning to the semi gloss, It will be easier to handle and I can hit it with

gloss coat for decaling before dull coating it.

 

Any thoughts from anyone?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

GAF
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Posted by GAF on Sunday, March 31, 2019 4:03 PM

Bakster>  Don't hold me to that release.  I've been checking the Scalemates site and I'm a bit confused about which version they're releasing.  There is a difference between the Revell and Monogram versions of the LM.  Since the restructuring, I'm not sure what they are going to kit out.  The 1/96th scale version of the LM and CM for sure, and the 1/96th scale Saturn V.  But which version of the 1/48th scale models is a bit vague.

Cats -- the bane of models!  Big Smile

Gary

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, March 31, 2019 10:06 AM

Hey Gary, your build is looking good. I noticed in another post that you did that your kit will be rereleased. I really like that model. When it comes out I might just have to get it.  Smile

Yeah, I am slowly getting my strength back and my motivation with it. I have another obstacle to consider. My friend has been in the hospital  from the flu going on a week. She has a cat, Sammie, and I volunteered to bring him home so that he is not alone all this time. I love cats, but there are certain known characteristics that come with them. One being that they are curious beyond measure. That means... hide the models or risk breakage, and/or lost parts. And this guy, is just young enough to go places older cats won't go. Even though he is 13, this cat can jump! Anyway, a change in tides creates a change in work flow. I am eager to get my project moving again. 

Keep up the good work guys.

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  • From: Boston
Posted by mach71 on Sunday, March 31, 2019 6:49 AM

Really good job on the nose cone! It looks great.

 

Bakster, good to hear the new decals arrived! 

 

Progress is being made.

 

I'm in the process of trying to use magnets to hold the antenna cover to the recovery

section. The instructions say not to glue it but the fit is very lose. 

 

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Saturday, March 30, 2019 10:49 PM

Nice work Gary, looking good. 

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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GAF
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Posted by GAF on Saturday, March 30, 2019 10:04 PM

Bakster>  I second the "yea"!  Glad the decals arrived.  Sounds like progress can continue if you're feeling up to it.  Big Smile

Project Report:

After several delays and on the third attempt the nose cone is finally fabricated!  It needs just some minor tweeks, but it's ready for final prep work and paint.  Used the dremel to carve out the opening in the bottom to fit over the docking adapter with a sandstone tip and a cutting drill.  Much rejoicing at Mission Control!

 

Still a lot of minor things to finish up, but with this my major scratch-building items are complete.  Astronauts report they are awaiting final word for liftoff! Now onward and upward!

Mission Director (GAF)

Today in Space History:

1948 March 30 - .

  • XS-1 Flight 77 - . Crew: Hoover. Payload: XS-1 # 2 flight 33. Nation: USA. Related Persons: Hoover. Class: Manned. Type: Manned rocketplane. Spacecraft: XS-1. NACA flight 13. Stability and loads investigation. Mach 0.90..


1961 March 30 - . 18:05 GMT - . Launch Site: Edwards. Launch Complex: Hidden Hills DZ. Launch Pad: Edwards RW04/22. Launch Platform: NB-52 008.

  • X-15A Alt., BCS, Aero test - . Nation: USA. Agency: NASA, USAF. Spacecraft: X-15A. Apogee: 51 km (31 mi). Maximum Speed - 4441 kph. Maximum Altitude - 51700 m. Air dropped in Hidden Hills DZ..


1964 March 30 - . Launch Vehicle: Saturn V.

  • Contract for production of 76 F-1 engines - . Nation: USA. Program: Apollo. MSFC awarded Rocketdyne a definitive contract (valued at $158.4 million) for the production of 76 F-1 engines for the first stage of the Saturn V launch vehicle and for delivery of ground support equipment.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, March 30, 2019 2:55 PM

Looking good, Mach. I love those gauges. Your harnessing surely adds to the detail too.

PS: Eduard came through with the decals. Bakster says, Yeeas!

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Posted by Gamera on Saturday, March 30, 2019 11:14 AM

Mach71: Looks great! And you're making great progress too!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

GAF
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Posted by GAF on Friday, March 29, 2019 8:40 PM

Mach71>  Nice work on the IP!  I'm glad you're making progress, as I seem to be moving at a snail's pace recently.  I'm gripped with a lethargy that is rather troubling.  Could be because of the recent sinus infection and the amount of antibiotics I was taking, or something else.  Your SV build was really something!  Glad you shared the pictures.

I hope everyone else is doing okay.  Seems to be the season for flu and colds as the weather begins to turn.  Hope all of this goes away soon and everyone is back at 100% again.

My own project moves along.  I've managed to finish sanding the top of the nose cone down until it fits well with the boost protective cover.  Tomorrow I want to use the dremel tool to carve out the opening in the bottom so it will fit over the connecting piece at the top of the capsule.  Then, I can proceed on with finishing the Command Module. That will be so gratifying!

Until tomorrow!

Gary

 

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  • From: Boston
Posted by mach71 on Friday, March 29, 2019 4:39 PM

scottrc,

 

Sorry, i just realized I never responded.

 

Its the late 90's Estes Release. I started it back then and put it on the shelf for almost 

10 years before I finished it. 

It was designed for 1 D motor, and I had alread installed the kit mount when I decided to go with a 5 cluster. 

I ended up with 1 D and 4 A mini motors for the cluster. It was kind of a kludge getting the new mount to mate with the new mount. 

My objective was to accelerate it fast so the fins would be effective by the time it left the

launch rod. It worked well enough.

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Posted by mach71 on Friday, March 29, 2019 4:29 PM

A bit more progress, I'm slowly getting the cockpit done.

The decals are on the instrument panel, the control pull switches are on.

 

 

I've run wires on the cockpit bulkhead.

 

 

getting close....

 

I've also washed and primed the vinyl parts, but the primer is clear so nothing to see there.

 

 

 

GAF
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Posted by GAF on Wednesday, March 27, 2019 4:29 AM

Steve>  Happy you are doing better.  I know none of us are getting younger (well, most of us anyway) and we need to watch our health.  It's bad enough when you catch something as awful as a disease you can do nothing about, but to have your body fail on its own is really tough.  I try to keep things in perspective and realize that there are people out there in far worse shape.

As far as my project is going, I'm still sanding on this nose cone.  I must admit, it's beginning to annoy me.

Gary

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 8:11 PM

Ouch, sorry to hear about the medical conditions. My hopes and prayers you guys are back up in better health soon.

Mach71: That looks fantastic!!! I swear there is no way on Earth I'd launch something I'd spent that much time on though!!!

Bakster: Those wheels look good!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 6:45 PM

modelcrazy

He's at the place I was at about 5 years ago, tickle in the chest that causes dry coughing fits several times a day, gets out of breath very easily. He sees how well I'm doing which gives him hope but he's 4 years older than me so he's concerned about getting bad enough for a transplant when he's too old for one.

 

That is tough, Steve. Thanks for sharing all that. I continue to wish you the best and for your brother too!

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 5:14 PM

He's at the place I was at about 5 years ago, tickle in the chest that causes dry coughing fits several times a day, gets out of breath very easily. He sees how well I'm doing which gives him hope but he's 4 years older than me so he's concerned about getting bad enough for a transplant when he's too old for one.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 2:19 PM

modelcrazy

  

Idiopathic Pulmonary Fibrosis

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiopathic_pulmonary_fibrosis

My condition was/is hereditary. My mother passed from it in 2012 and my brother has it. I still have it since it's in my genes but it won't start affecting me again for another 40 years or so, by that time, it won't matter.

 

Thanks for explaining all that, and what a terrible disease.  I am sorry to hear all that hardship for you and your family. Thank goodness for the transplants. How is your bother coping right now? Still managing it?

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 11:30 AM

Bakster
Steve--what damaged your lungs to start with? If you don't mind my asking...

Idiopathic Pulmonary Fibrosis

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiopathic_pulmonary_fibrosis

My condition was/is hereditary. My mother passed from it in 2012 and my brother has it. I still have it since it's in my genes but it won't start affecting me again for another 40 years or so, by that time, it won't matter.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 11:04 AM

modelcrazy
Bakster, I was told by my pulmonologist that everybody loses some lung capacity everytime we get a respiratory condition, I.E. flu, cold, bronchitis, etc. Most people, he said, have enough capacity in reserve to last their entire lives.

Egads. I did not know that.

 

modelcrazy
My catching the flu during Thanksgiving 2017 is what kicked me over the edge and put me on the transplant list. I would have eventually declined enough to get there, but the flu just accelerated it

Steve--what damaged your lungs to start with? If you don't mind my asking...

 

modelcrazy
At our age, everybody needs to be extreamly careful, especially during the fall, winter, spring

I wish I could. In this office it spreads like wildfire.We had about 8 people come down with the flu all on the same day at the same time. How does that happen? I can't figure where we might have been exposed at the same time. I also just learned one person was out all last week. I thought he was on vacation. Not. Sick with Influenze B. My friend that is in the hospital has A.  Rediculous stuff. 

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 10:17 AM

Bakster
in some ways I don't think I ever really recovered completely.

Bakster, I was told by my pulmonologist that everybody loses some lung capacity everytime we get a respiratory condition, I.E. flu, cold, bronchitis, etc. Most people, he said, have enough capacity in reserve to last their entire lives.

My catching the flu during Thanksgiving 2017 is what kicked me over the edge and put me on the transplant list. I would have eventually declined enough to get there, but the flu just accelerated it.

At our age, everybody needs to be extreamly careful, especially during the fall, winter, spring.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 9:17 AM

GAF
Bakster> Nice wheels!  I was just looking the amount of time we have left, and thinking about your decals.  Hopefully they'll get them to you soon, but we can still fall back on making a home-printed set if you so desire.  Good work overall!  Sorry to hear about the flu.  I mentioned earlier in this thread that I had gone through the stuff back in December.  It is not something I would wish on anyone!  Take care of yourself! Unfortunately, due to my health, I was unable to get out to see "Apollo 11".  Well, if it doesn't come to my local theater, I'll just have to wait for the DVD.

Gary--I hear you about the flu, it's a bad one. And, sorry you are still struggling. I have similar issues. It is almost as bad as the swine flu variant that hit last year. That was awful, and in some ways I don't think I ever really recovered completely. But this one is darn close to it. My friend that I was talking about is now in the hospital. She was taken via ER and told she is lucky that she came in. With her weak heart and lungs, it likely would have killed her. She is not out of the woods, she is fighting to survive.  Very concerned for her.

If I get the decals within the next 4 to 6 weeks I should still be good. The biggest time suck right now is the base, and what I am trying to accomplish. I am still working out a process and of course I always have grandiose ideas. But the biggest issue is a lack of motivation and life issues that set a person back. I might have to scale back my goals to make the deadline. We shall see.

Anyway--thanks for chiming in on things.

GAF
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Posted by GAF on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 12:31 AM

I must admit I've been feeling rather "bleh" for awhile and sleeping a lot.  I attribute it to the antibiotics I've been taking for the sinus infection.  My muscles are aching also.  I tried sanding on the new nose cone part and my hand kept cramping up, so this is going to take awhile longer!  I think I may be getting old!  Surprise

Scottrc> That's excellent work on the Estes SV!  I know that I would think twice about trying to make a vac-u-form kit, though building one out of paper would not be out of bounds.  Are you really planning to fly this, or is it just made that way?

Bakster> Nice wheels!  I was just looking the amount of time we have left, and thinking about your decals.  Hopefully they'll get them to you soon, but we can still fall back on making a home-printed set if you so desire.  Good work overall!  Sorry to hear about the flu.  I mentioned earlier in this thread that I had gone through the stuff back in December.  It is not something I would wish on anyone!  Take care of yourself!

Unfortunately, due to my health, I was unable to get out to see "Apollo 11".  Well, if it doesn't come to my local theater, I'll just have to wait for the DVD.

Meanwhile, I'm cleaning out my stash.  There's a model show near me on April 6th and I'm going to have a table reserved to see if I can sell a few things.  I'm realizing that I'll never be able to build all these models in my lifetime (what with my rate of building).  I plan on selling what I can, or trading for something that I need / want.  No, none of my old spacecraft models are in the pile.  Smile

Gary

 

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Posted by scottrc on Monday, March 25, 2019 11:51 AM

Mach,

Thanks for showing your Saturn V.  My wraps had been a pain since my main tube has had an egg shape to it that I have not been able to get out until the wraps were installed and the adhesive cured.  Some of the wraps had come undone and had to be CA'd.  This caused gaps that needed filling.  Since I am concered with weight and balance I'm using Balsa Lite, which requires the plastic coated tubing to be roughed up with sand paper so it adheres.  

Also, thanks the Center of Gravity advice.  Looks like you ran yours with the C cluster?  My orginal kit ran with the cluster until one of the engines CATO's thanks to me not allowing enough distance between the engine nozzle and the blast deflector.

This is the new kit designed for a D12-3 or E12-4.  All the reviews I've read claims it flies really good on the E12-4.

My fins were solid plasitc, but those dang farrings seemed wither be to large or too small.  Really takes a lot of time test fitting and trimming to try to get it right.

I know now why I only ever built one vacuform airplane.  Anyone remember how popular those kinds got back in the 70s and 80s?

Scott

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, March 24, 2019 9:01 PM

Thanks, Mach. Btw...it was your conversation about Apollo 11 that made me check on it further. It turned out that it was the last day they were showing it here. They ran it for one week only. How sad. Anyway, I ordered tickets and went with my brother. It was very good.

Steve, you point about the flu was a good one. Guess what I got the day after seeing the movie? Yes, the flu. I don’t think I got it from the threatre, but from the office. It has exploded there. This is a respiratory flu and a pretty bad one. I have a friend that has it now and I am very concerned for her. She has heart and lung issues. The girl suffers too much, it breaks my heart. Praying for her.

Good luck with the primer, Mach. Oh, and nice job on the instrument panel. Looks great!

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, March 24, 2019 8:46 PM

Thanks, Steve.

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