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Ships of the Japanese Flag GB 2021

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, January 7, 2022 6:03 PM

Yeah wow, love those ship's boats and aircraft. 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, January 7, 2022 3:19 PM

It looks like you found some real jewls Ben. I love hat crane, everything loos so streight.

Steve

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Posted by DRUMS01 on Friday, January 7, 2022 2:31 PM

Thanks everyone, they actually went on without a hitch as long as you follow the steps I identified. 

Regarding the IJN triple AA guns, initially I felt that I let the IJN triple AA guns beat me, but the real issue is I have only limited time to finish this kit. I'm sure I could've created the needed guns from a combination of the three options I already had. I just wanted to be able to replicate the guns exactly the same for all 14 of them which would've taken too much time to do. From what I could see, the only thing I may possibly have to replace on the 3d guns would be the barrels and gun sights, but even then perhaps maybe not.

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That has allowed me to move on to finishing the superstructure and the aircraft rails. Speaking of aircraft dolly rails, I do not understand why Lions Roar only provided enough rails for the main deck and none for the lower aircraft / boat deck (there are four long dolly rails there too). Without a similar dolly rail as the main deck, these will look silly.

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After looking over all of my spare PE for a solution I decided to locate something to use once again from after-market. I found a PE set from Rainbow for IJN Deck Rails (for aircraft, torpedo & depth charges) RB3559. It not only has the rails, but also 7 dollys for boats or aircraft (brilliant). Now just waiting for their arrival.

I also identified one more item severely lacking on the model, the ships boats. To solve that I was able to find a set created by Bigblueboy. They are part resin and part PE, called WWII IJN warships boats NO35032. It has several of the motor launches and open boats along with detailed davits, etc. They are also ordered awaiting receipt.

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And hopefully last are the ships aircraft. The ones from the ship are OK, but not real nice. I thought if I was going this far on the PE and details, I should also add aircraft that match the detail level of the build. I was fortunate enough to find a set by Rainbow called, Aircraft Set II (Seaplane) RB3517.

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I think they will be a fun challenge, we will see . I'm going to start some painting while waiting for the extra details to arrive. Nothing more to add for today, till next time.

Ben

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, January 6, 2022 8:52 AM

DBrasov

Hey folks, 

I'm new to the community.  Can I jump in and build Combrig's 1/700 Fuso Ironclad (1900 fit)?

 

Yes, I'll get you down. That'll be a nice addition. I'm intrested to see how those Combrigs build.

Sorry about missing you bud, I'm ususaly far more responsive.

Steve

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, January 5, 2022 8:47 PM

Ben: Love what you're doing- that looks sooooooo good! 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, January 5, 2022 5:36 PM

I like the idea of pre shading with a marker. I am intrested to see how that turns out. All that research couldn't have been easy since Yamato photos are rare. I'm sure you found the pictures of the Yamato in Kure. You would think someone would have a walk around of it.

Steve

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Posted by DRUMS01 on Wednesday, January 5, 2022 4:56 PM

Time to get back to modeling now that the holidays are over and relatives are gone.

For me it started with a final review of the superstructure prior to painting. What I'm looking for are the arrangement of doors, ladders, and hand rails. While the original (old) version of the Tamiya Yamato was quite special when first introduced, it is severely lacking in detail by todays standards. I guess that is why they introduced a new tooled version. For example, when looking at the bare model, I could only locate three pair of doors on the whole kit and they were nothing more than a raised rectangle that really did not look like a door(?). Thanks to the Lion's Roar PE and some spare PE, I was able to replace them then research and add aproximately 30 more. The same can be said for the ladders which is also surprising to me considering they have tooled ladders on the main gun turrets and the hull. Once again, with the Lion's Roar instructions and some research I was able to replace them and add another 20-30 additional PE ladders. Why would you attempt to mold in a few ladders on the turrets and a couple on the hull only to forget about the other 30? 

Anyway, enough rambling about the little details. The other resources used to detail the doors and ladders were mostly from various internet pictures, images from 3DHISTORY.DE by Thomas Schmid, photos of a completed new tool Yamato done by Olli-Peka Immonen on IMODELER, and a completed build on MODEL SHIP WORLD's forum. 

After I finished the final overview of the superstructure I decided to try a new method of shading for me for a 1/350 model. I have decided to try drawing a force perspective of shading with an extra fine tip black sharpie marker. Using the same logic that the aircraft modelers use when pre-shading panel lines and other areas, I think I'm giving the Yamato the same treatment but with a permanent marker. That means lots and, lots of lines all over the hull, decks, and superstructure. 



Once I was happy with that I started on the aircraft dolly tracks on the aft portion of the main deck. Previously I added the base plates for all of the track. 

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I was not sure if I wanted to add them before or after adding the deck to the hull, but the "before" option won on this time (I hope I will not regret it later.) The Lion's Roar instructions called out the PE part numbers, but one set was numbered incorrectly, specifically there were two sets of #4 on the instructions and no #5 PE set identified. Careful attention to detail is needed on these parts as one side has more relief and detail while the other side is smooth. In all instances with this assembly, every detailed side is suppose to be facing outward, not inside or towards the duplicate rail. The base plates provided a raised line to guide where the parts are suppose to be, though they really do not help very much.

IMPORTANT: Every rail should be test fitted to measure as the majority have very tight tolerances. In numerous instances a part of the rail needed trimmed (shorter) to fit the designated area, especially where the rails reach their point, near the center of the deck. Part of the reason is because two of the rails actually cross and in some other cases the inside rail may be shorter than the outside rail by a fraction, I believe you can see this in the photo above with your naked eye. If you do not do this they will not fit properly, they will buckle, and obviously not be straight. So, after all of that, here is what I got done today:

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You may notice that I also created some hand rails for the platforms on the catapults (they were not part of the Lion's Roar PE set). you can also see some of the lines from the permanent marker that will be defused when painting.  

Painting very soon I hope. Comments always welcome.

DRUMS01

"Everyones the normal until you get to know them" (Unknown)

LAST COMPLETED:

1/35 Churchill Mk IV AVRE with bridge - DONE

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1/35 CH-54A Tarhe Helicopter

 

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Posted by DBrasov on Wednesday, January 5, 2022 4:52 PM

Hey folks, 

I'm new to the community.  Can I jump in and build Combrig's 1/700 Fuso Ironclad (1900 fit)?

Nathan Bartlett

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, December 31, 2021 11:33 AM

I already got ya down my man

Steve

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, December 31, 2021 11:19 AM

Steve: You stated cross-builds were kosher so I'd like to enter the Shimakaze in my own Japanese GB XI if it's fine by you? It might give me that extra 'omph' to get moving on her.  

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Posted by goldhammer88 on Friday, December 31, 2021 10:04 AM

If you're talking about the six on the left side above the pressure hull in the first pic, those are the regular fish fired out of the tubes.

The two man mini is in the second pic to the left of the nameplate.

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, December 31, 2021 10:01 AM

Ohhhhhhhhh, that looks cool Ikar! Looking forward to you building her.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, December 31, 2021 12:45 AM

Japanese subs were multipurpose 

Steve

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Posted by ikar01 on Thursday, December 30, 2021 10:22 PM

It even came with what appear to be six torpedoes.  At this time I'm not sure if they are the manned type or not that would be carried behind the conning tower.  That might be my guess because this sub also carries a seaplane up front.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, December 30, 2021 8:16 PM

GH is correct, otherwise you would need to put in a tube or something if you wanted to be accurate like you do with the Revell kits.

Steve

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Posted by goldhammer88 on Thursday, December 30, 2021 8:10 PM

Usually put in so you can't see the other side through the limber holes.  Also represents the pressure hull.

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Posted by Gamera on Saturday, December 25, 2021 7:59 AM

GH: Thanks, I didn't know it was against site policy either.

Steve: Wow! And I thought all Black Cat made was fireworks! Stick out tongue

 

Merry Christmas to all my friends here. And cheers to a great 2022. Going to try to really dig into getting the Shimakaze built.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Saturday, December 25, 2021 12:33 AM

Ben, yeah, I like Black Cat. I bought some Bofors for the North Carolina and Pom Poms for the Prince of Wales. They look good but I haven't opened them yet. They'll have to wait till long after you alreadt installed yours. I like Black Cat. It's like a candy store for 1/350 ships.

Ikar, I love the planes. Looking forward to whatever you decde to build next.

Steve

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Posted by ikar01 on Friday, December 24, 2021 8:43 PM

I better check my account and then go check it out.  Thanks

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Posted by goldhammer88 on Friday, December 24, 2021 2:00 PM

No problem, I got a one week of having mods approve posts a year ago.  Don't want someone else to get suspended or banned.

I did put up a fret on PE that was on eBay for your sub.  Even though it said was for I-19, the 17 was same class.  $13 shipped. Ends in 2 days

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Posted by ikar01 on Friday, December 24, 2021 1:15 PM

Taken care of, sorry about that.

So now I have to decide which ship to build next, sub or destroyer.

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Posted by goldhammer88 on Friday, December 24, 2021 10:04 AM

Ikar, you might want to pull the pics and description of the weapons.  Against site policy.

Nice job on the carrier and a/c.

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, December 24, 2021 9:09 AM

Ikar: The planes look great! Sharp work! And cool looking weapons, I actually saw some Japanese reenactors a few years ago. They had the guns and katanas and the whole deal.

Ben: Good luck too! Hope those 3D printed guns work out. They look like a lot less work to be sure.

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Posted by goldhammer88 on Thursday, December 23, 2021 4:50 PM

Don't know the pricing difference, but search shapeways for them.  I've gotten a couple of 5" and 20mm from there, and extremely pleased.

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Posted by DRUMS01 on Thursday, December 23, 2021 3:53 PM

After reaching a new level of frustration with the IJN type 96 triple AA guns I actually decided to throw the entire model kit of the Yamato in the trash...........

Then I woke up from the bad dream. Since I was still not satisfied with the three options I currently have, and not knowing if another assembly version would make me happy either, I decided to purchase the 3D molded guns. While at one time they were available on eBay, they are no longer there. Searching for them I finally found them at Black Cat Models which is a company based out of France.

This is what they will look like in the raw:

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I will wait to see them in person to determine if additional modifications will be needed for the barrels, gun sites, or any armor plate. Till then I have been making final preparations for painting the hull to include some pre-shading to bring out more details. 

Perhaps I will have some pictures posted prior to the New Year.

Ben

"Everyones the normal until you get to know them" (Unknown)

LAST COMPLETED:

1/35 Churchill Mk IV AVRE with bridge - DONE

NEXT PROJECT:

1/35 CH-54A Tarhe Helicopter

 

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, December 23, 2021 10:54 AM

Ben & Steve: WOW!!! That stuff gives me eye-strain just to look at it. Good luck guys. As Ikar said a little sake helps, though God only knows what kinda mess I'd end up with if I started drunk modeling...

Ikar: Beautiful work there- good luck with the aircraft!

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Posted by goldhammer88 on Wednesday, December 22, 2021 8:41 PM

ikar... Take a look on eBay, search:1/350 submarine I-19

On 1st page, an Aoshima PE set I-19/I-27.

 

9.99 + 2.95 shipping. In your neck of the woods.

Don't know how much is applicable to your kit, but they were all the same class boats.

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