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ARMOR - Battle of Normandy, 6 June to 24 July 1944 (build ends 9/11/04)

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ARMOR - Battle of Normandy, 6 June to 24 July 1944 (build ends 9/11/04)
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 17, 2004 4:31 PM
Hello everyone, the title kinda shows what I want to do. I want to hold a normandy GB. I'm sorry Rebelreenactor if it looks like I'm copying you with your D-day GB, but I want to make a GB that shows the effects of d-day. So, not to intrude on rebel's GB, I want to make a GB that is from June 6, 1944 to July 24, 1944. This should cover the normandy campaign well, but I'm open for suggestions about these dates. Notice I started it on June7th.
The rules
1)Dates (so far) June 6, 1944 to July 30, 1944
2)For now the GB is strictly limited to Armor in the Normandy campaign, but I'll most likely open it up to AC, figures, and ships too.
3)You can use AM, PE, resin, whatever floats your boat. I want everyone to go out to the fullest of their potential.
4)Start date-June 6th End Date-September 11th- still thinking-need help...
5)I will welcome all sugestions about any rules and I will ask if anyone wants to change/suggest anything. If no one wants to make any suggestions anymore, then I will set it in stone-there will be no exeptions unless everyone wants to change something after it's set in stone.
6)Individual models, figures, and dios are all fine, it's all cool.
7)If you want to build the patch, then thats fine. Just tell me and you'll get the title of GB patch maker.
9)Anything I forgot? Please help me as this is my first time hosting a maybe succsecful GB.
-Oh and by the way fellow tiger fans, this DOES include them in there, yeah!Cool [8D]
NOTE: ANYBODY CAN JOIN THE GROUP BUILD AT ANY TIME UP AND UNTILL JUNE 30TH. YOU STILL CAN JOIN!!!

For everybody on the list, this is your temporary bagde.
http://rongeorge.com/albums/upload/temporary_bagdetemplete65ed2.sized.jpg
For more info on what this is, go to page 5. This belongs in your signature.

The list-Those who are red have obtained the temporary bagde in their signature.
Armormaster
Hattals
Djmodels1999
Thundergod
9x19mm
Muzzleflash88
Petbat
Ddayomaha
Cplchilly
Scubaboy99
Tread
Maffen
Daveash
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 17, 2004 4:58 PM
"In" with the Duckbill
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Posted by tigerman on Monday, May 17, 2004 6:27 PM
Sorry, I commited to the D-Day build. Good luck on yours.

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 Eric 

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Posted by tigerman on Monday, May 17, 2004 8:38 PM
LOL. I think "Duckbill" is really "Hattals" and he is in your "in" list.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 17, 2004 9:11 PM
Seems like a good idea. Put me in the probably list. By the way, what date is +100? Just curious, because I was going to do an M8 for the Small AFV GB (haven't started yet), maybe I could kill two birds with one stone?
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Posted by djmodels1999 on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 7:43 AM
Count me in. I have this urge to build a destroyed Panther...! HeHeHe..!
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Posted by zokissima on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 8:10 AM
I'd like to, but I'm trying to commit to the D-Day build, so I prob won't be able to do anything in time for this one.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 9:36 AM
Do you guys think I should open this up to AC and ship modelers?
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 9:51 AM
Sure you could there will be alot of gliders, c47's, p47's, p51's , me109's and even maybe some fw190's not sure on ships though you can put me in on the( southern redneck voice) " well I'll be" list. probablt either a tiger, panther or I just might even throw in the fw190 if you let the fly boys in.Of coarse I will still do a armor piece cause we all know the darkside is stronger.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 5:43 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by ArmorMaster

Do you guys think I should open this up to AC and ship modelers?

Yes because aircraft played a major role during the breakout from normandy, especially in the break out.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 8:15 PM
ArmorMaster:

FYI, the US Army considers the Normandy Campaign to be 6 June - 24 July, after which it became "Northern France", "Rhineland", and so on ....
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Posted by nmayhew on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 12:51 AM
hi guys,
i haven't been around for a couple of weeks or so now (new job etc etc), but this does seem mighty close to the D-DAY GROUP BUILD, for which i'm building a typhoon in 1/48.
it seems like this will be diluting the group builds idea to me.
just my thoughts...
n
Kind regards, Nicholas
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Posted by djmodels1999 on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 7:03 AM
Nick, the D-Day GB is for weapons used between 5th and 8th of June 1944. This Normandy GB can takes us up to September 1944 (at least up to 24th of July according to official sources as mentionned above), with scope for much more subjects and themes for individual models or dioramas...

I think the two can co-exist.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 9:53 AM
June 7 to July 24 sounds great. I'm intruding on the D-day GB by one day, do you think that I should change it to June 9?
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 8:24 PM
ArmorMaster:

Thoughts for your consideration:

I wouldn't worry about conflicting with D-Day Buiuld & set period back to 6 June.

Pls define "ARMOR" (criteria #2) -- anything with treads ? does it have to be a tank or half-track ? Does it even have to have a weapon ? I tend to treat "armor" as a general term for "ground vehicles" which could include trucks, recovery vehicles, etc.

End Date: How about mid-September (or later), that gives folks 3 months -- it is summer (in the northern hemisphere) after all.

Given the "groundy" emphasis, at least at start, I'd think the Figure/Diorama folks could be included.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 8:29 PM
Thanks for telling me jratz. Yep, I consider jeeps, trucks and anti tank guns to be armor too. Anything that rolls is game. I put the idea in the AC forum, but no one has done anything. I'll try dio's and figures too. Thanks!
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 20, 2004 8:52 PM
ArmorMaster:

Since this appears to be "groundy", then I think you could set unit limits as follows:
-- Allied: Landed in Normandy between dates given, whether in combat or not.
-- Axis: Using Allied forward lines on any particular date, any Axis unit in lines facing the Allied units, or behind Axis lines but in direct or general support of front-line units.

I would limit air & naval to direct/general support within the sea lanes from the UK to the beaches and in the airspace over sea lanes & beaches and the air over the land areas as defined above for ground units. This may be too limiting for things like rear-area interdiction by air units & exceptions might have to be made if builder can provide documentation/rationale, but should exclude something like a B-17 on its way to Berlin.

Right now, I'm a tentative but haven't quite decided what to do -- it will be something US or UK either on the beach or in the hedgerows ....
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 21, 2004 12:19 AM
THE RULES:
Anything Axis or Allies that played any role in the Normandy campaign. This means a model/ship/ac/figure/tank/armor or anything inland/on the beach/in the air in fortress Europe. I'm not dealing with specifics, like jratz mentioned-but thanks for the suggestion. If you are really wondering if your subject might not be considered official, just ask and I wil tell you.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 21, 2004 12:20 AM
Oh, and one person in the D-day GB wanted to do a German captured t-34 that was made as an ammo carrier or something and was transferred into France during the invasion. Oddball things like that are greatly accepted. It would be cool to see the usual things that fought, along with the unkown.
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Posted by djmodels1999 on Friday, May 21, 2004 1:54 AM
We'll need a badge!!! LOL
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 12:40 PM
All right, looks like I'm doing the bagde for now. Anybody can volunteer to do it, but thats how it's going so far.
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Posted by 9x19mm on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 12:52 PM
If aircraft are included Ill try to scrunge up something, Im in the d-day build but easily can build 2 or 3 models in 2 or 3 mos. As far as the badge I would suggest something simple and something that reflects what was lost in the campiagn and shows respect why not use the cross grave markers?
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Posted by 9x19mm on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 2:49 PM
Figured out that Id like to do a P-51B Lt. James Roughgarden's "Jersey Bounce".
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Posted by 9x19mm on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 3:34 PM
Bah Chuck Yeager's Glamurous Glenn from the excellent Tamiya P-51D kit.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 5:39 PM
Nice long build date.....so I'm in Armour Master. Don't ask what yet, gotta think about that.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 9:23 PM
I want in but cant decide what to do. I have a p-47 in the box that is a really nice kit with photoetch inside.... wouldnt she be beautiful with invasion stripes....

but the GB also SCREAMS diorama. why is it that every gb smells like a dio to me Dead [xx(]

I have a firefly in the city of normandy in mind.... or a crew of Americans setting up shop inside a german bunker that was captured during the landing..... geez its gonna be a tough decision... maybe the p47 Wink [;)]





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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 1:13 PM
we still need to figure out whats going on with the patch. I can make one, but if anybody wants to do it than thats perfectly fine.
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Posted by 9x19mm on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 5:14 PM
ArmorMaster since Im on the list I assume aircraft are allowed?
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 6:12 PM
Yep siree AC are in, along with Figures, Vinigates, Dios, and ships. I've posted this GB in the AC, ship, figure, and dios, but nobody likes the idea except us in the darkside. So AC is allowed, but looks like your the only one doing one. Good luck all.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 6:13 PM
Also, Remeber everybody, were starting on June 6th. Have your stuff ready by then. Does anybody have any suggestions or things they want to change? Say now before the start date.
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