AIRCRAFT - Battle of Britain Group Build (Jan 1st 2005 - May 31st 2005)

I am stupidly toying with the idea of starting yet another model, a Hurricane Mk.I actually and I’ve been doing a bit of research on the subject of the wheel wells as well. I've pretty much come to the same conclusion as Rick, in that for early Hurricanes the wheel wells were mainly left bare metal.

Cheers
Darren

Some were painted the same as the underside color, but most were unpainted, natural metal.

Regards, Rick

I wonder if anyone has come across this. I can't seem to find a source colour for the wheel wells on the Hurricane Mk1, I've seen models built by some that have painted it green and some a whitsh colour. Also, I found a cool restoration website with lots of building photos that shows the wheel wells a metallic.grey colour , any ideas? I have finally built the cockpit! and next is the wings. Photos to come soon.

This is the link to the Hawker Restorations website:
http://www.hawker-restorations-ltd.co.uk/
Click on their completed or current restorations links to get tons of colour photos.

Tanky-please pardon my manners in my earlier post regarding your "Tip"-congratulations are due.

Congratulations Tanky. I'll take a look when I pick my copy up.

Regards, Rick

QUOTE: Originally posted by rjkplasticmod OK Tom, now I understand. Actually a nice little bonus if your happy with it . How's Rudy & the other canines doing ? My little Corgi is getting cabin fever cause it's been too cold & snowy to give her the usual long walks.

Rudy, Tito and Frank are snoozing right now in between bouts of glaring at each other... unfortunately it is raining too hard for them to go outside so we are in the same boat... I think Rudy finally fell asleep which is a good thing... he keeps me working when I am home just trying to keep up with him and his little mouth.. loves to chew anything! preferrably my nose when I lie back and try to relax for a sec.. it's a rude awakening!!

QUOTE: Originally posted by j.s.harrison Darren 2 in the pack eh + the one you get with the Tamiya kit........Hmmm does that mean you have a spare Goo Gone where do i get that stuff from Incidentaly i'm an impatient bugger so i mixed 70% metho with 30% water and attacked the Hellcat canopy with that, it did remove the goo and a tiny amount of paint from the frame but nothing that wasn't easily fixed, i used a fine microbrush to get it off If anyone is interested in seeing the F6F-3 Hellcat i'll be posting up pics in the aircraft forum

Jules,

If you're asking do I have a spare UC door unfortunately no I don't I'm using number two from the pack on this Spit (number one was last years Aussie GB). If you're after a spare Tamiya door, no probs I have at least one floating around. If you want it, say the word and I'll chuck it in the post for you.

The product is actually called Goo Off 2 is marked "Safe On Plastic" and is in an orange pump pack bottle. You can get it from just about any Bunnings store down here. If you're having trouble finding it give me a hoy and I'll pick up some for you.

BTW, do you have broadband?

Cheers
Darren

QUOTE: Originally posted by Tankmaster7 OK OK since I can't toot my own horn enough I'll say it ere too; I is published!!!! My tip is the last one on the page in the mach 2005 issue... BTW who do I contact about getting paid? (there's my greediness kicking in)

Takes a couple of weeks after you see your name in print. If nothing by then, I would drop an e-mail

[b]Tom[/b} I had similar problems last night with Gunze Mr.Setter & Mr.Softener (Where do they get these names?) eating chunks of paint on my Do217.

I've bever had that before, but luckily the damage should be easily repaired.

Can't see any pictures of the builds at the mo, as I'm at work and all I get are little red Xs. I'm sure they all look great though.

Karl

QUOTE: Originally posted by darson Jules, welcome back and be very careful when using goo gone because it will take the paint off you canopy just as quickly as the goo if you're not careful. I normally use a 000 or 10x0 brush and very carefully apply it and remove the goo. You are right about the Tamiya Spit and the door, but I had to order one for my Hase spit and you get two in the pack.. Cheers Darren

Darren 2 in the pack eh + the one you get with the Tamiya kit........Hmmm does that mean you have a spare

Goo Gone where do i get that stuff from
Incidentaly i'm an impatient bugger so i mixed 70% metho with 30% water and attacked the Hellcat canopy with that, it did remove the goo and a tiny amount of paint from the frame but nothing that wasn't easily fixed, i used a fine microbrush to get it off

If anyone is interested in seeing the F6F-3 Hellcat i'll be posting up pics in the aircraft forum

I know we have done this already but I can't take the dog for a walk because it's too hot. She's an eight year old Labrador and the temp is here is 94 again today so it's a bit much for her (me too for that matter).

Cheers
Darren

OK OK since I can't toot my own horn enough I'll say it ere too; I is published!!!! My tip is the last one on the page in the mach 2005 issue... BTW who do I contact about getting paid? (there's my greediness kicking in)

OK Tom, now I understand. Actually a nice little bonus if your happy with it . How's Rudy & the other canines doing ? My little Corgi is getting cabin fever cause it's been too cold & snowy to give her the usual long walks.

Regards, Rick

thanks Rick! no actually it let the rivets poke through the decal as they softened so much... so now it looks like the underlying paint color of the body is showing through the roundels... so it actually added something.. might add a little drybrushing to the rivets around it to give it that worn look... dont like a lot of wear on an aircraft... but this actually kinda took my fancy!

Tom, I've never had MicroSol remove paint, but it will sometimes discolor Future. If you apply a top coat of Future to seal the decals, chances are the worn paint appearance will magically disappear.

Regards, Rick

great Darren... I got absolutely nothing done tonight.. but on a good/bad note will have at least half a day tomorrow to model. I came home in a pouring rainstorm and when I got here I kept hearing a "ticking" noise in the house... at first I thought it was Kremps fiddling with her dentures again, but then I tracked it down.. a leak in my roof... and water was leaking from the gypsum board in the ceiling... long story short there are two soup pots catching the water leaking from my ceiling as we speak.. I am going to spend at least half of the day here in case it storms tomorrow (like it is supposed to) to change pots then go to work... so I will be modeling in between pot changing...

on the Martlet last night when I brushed the microsol over the side fuselage roundels it wore off the color over the rivets... but on closer inspection it looks like worn paint at the rivets and is not displeasing at all! strange because the wing roundels did not want to seat down in the panel lines at all... but the side fuselage ones were so thin!!! all in all not a bad effect though!!! have the sqn codes on and waiting serial number etc.. before weathering tomorrow... should DEFINITELY have some progress by Sat! And I have decided the landing gear were sea blue... no other resources to contradict me and have seen the Martlet pics from the FAA museum (admittedly a Mk 5) but they are sea blue as well...

Tanky... New York City??? I drove across the cross-bronx expressway one night.. had 1/8 tank of gas but swore I would never stop there!!!! never again! Glad you decided to join us!!! This is a fun bunch.... (word to the wise... stay away from Tweety... he's off the wagon again... hitting upwards of 2 bottles of Future a day... in fact I just had to mail him 3 more bottles to keep him in supply... if he gets by you and you smell this "flowery" smell... RUN!!!)

Jay, when I'm washing a cockpit or anything else for that matter, I make sure that I don't wash enamel over enamel or acrylic over acrylic for the reasons that Rick said. For me this is fairly easy as I always wash with artist’s oils and I always apply a protective coat of Future over anything I'm washing.

Sean (tweety), [:0] that 109 looks awesome, I'll definitely be filing that little method away for future use, thanks.

Jules, welcome back and be very careful when using goo gone because it will take the paint off you canopy just as quickly as the goo if you're not careful. I normally use a 000 or 10x0 brush and very carefully apply it and remove the goo. You are right about the Tamiya Spit and the door, but I had to order one for my Hase spit and you get two in the pack.

Tanky, welcome to the madhouse my friend. I've added your build to page 1.

Cheers
Darren

Welcome to the build Tanky. Glad to hear you have a Do-17, that's a fairly rare kit these days.

Progress on my 109, well not much today. Letting the decals cure, but did paint all of the fiddly pieces prior to final assembly. Did a little more work on the Hurricane as well.

Regards, Rick

Uh, oh. That ain't good. But seriously, being a New Yorker should alone qualify me for Happy Acres Mental Rest Facility!!

cool Tanky! I was wanting to do one of those but they are hard to come by... finally it's starting to sound like a more rounded build... a little of everything... Good luck and can't wait to see pics!

On a side note Lunchalot noticed you were missing at breakfast today.... better avaoid the old windbag like the plague!

QUOTE: Originally posted by darson Hey Tanky, do I get the impression that you want to join in this build????? Darren

Hell yes!!!! Put me down for revell's 1/72 do-17z. Sincerely, Inmate # 129778

Jay, I just mix the acrylic, I use Vallejo, or water color with plain tap water. Just mix by eye until it's about like strong coffee.

Regards, Rick

Rick, how do you make your wash, and what proportions
Way back before I stopped 8 years ago, I would add a few drops of the accent colour I want the wash to have with several milliliters of distilled water. I didn't have any distilled water until yesterday and was using tap water instead, I supposed Calgary's water has calcium and other nasties and that could be making it go whitish when it dries.

I work in my basement, and don'y have a spray booth, and in the winter I can't really open the windows to vent fumes if I use enamals. That is why I don't use enamals, I really should get a spray booth.

All I have to say is I hate sanding wing roots!

Jay, I can't figure out what would make a black wash turn out white. I avoid the potential problems by using enamels for all of the base painting & acrylics or water colors for the washes. Eliminates any potential for unwanted chemical reactions between similar paints & thinners.

Regards, Rick

I...feel...so...slow...
All you guys are just cranking out the models, I am atill having problems finishing my cockpit!
The progress pics looks great guys

It must be my inexperience but I am having problems with the wash in my cockpit. Can you add the same paint types in a wash? Like for example an acrylic on an acrylic? The cockpit is a tamiya light green and I down have any dark brown or burnt sienna so was using tamiya flat black. I make
the wash and apply it and once it dries it goes whitish and discolours everything really light. Can someone help me out, how do
you make a good wash? This will be the third time I am repainting my pit.

I think my application to Happy Acres was pre-approved and gone through a quick processing! Arggh!

Tweety, I noticed your location is Alice Springs, I just happened to be looking at a map of Australia, you must be out in the booneys, how do you ever get modeling stuff! How big is Alice Springs? Looks kind of like a sister location to Inuvik, Canada.

Also to the question of who else in the GB is IT...

sorry, I'm a GIS specialist, close but that only counts in horseshoes and handgrenades
I work on maps and databases and special analysis of spatial data but no computer stuff.

Thanks for the feedback guys.

Sean, nice weathering on the Gustav. I prefer my shelf sitters clean, but can admire & appreciate others who prefer heavier weathering.

Jules, Goo Gone will remove the residue, as will lighter fluid. Just don't go crazy using it. A dampened Q-Tip is all you need.

Regards, Rick

Rick - your 109 looks great

Bob - The HE-111 is coming along, Im still sanding on mine. Mybe I'll get some paint on her this week

Thad

Poster putty eh Bob, sounds like it might be similar to blue tac, it certainly does the job

Tweety I have a Sir........I used the BMF method you told me about on my Hellcat and it worked like a charm, But how do you remove the residue from the canopy after the BMF is removed

Ah...where to start. First off-thanks for all the positive comments. This is a good group to hang with.

Yes, there is usually food around when I work. I have to stake a claim on the kitchen table and I usually don't take the time to clear it off....

Jules-I used poster putty from an office supply store here, Staples. A little hard at first, but once you massage it a bit, becomes very pliable. Good adhesion qualities too. I just wish I'd had the forethought to apply some on the underside for weathering purposes before I sprayed the black..oh well, next time.

Hope to get a coat of clear on this pm, maybe a wash & decals tomorrow...or not. Wait and see.

Sean-love the 109-excellent weathering job.

Cheers