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Honda RC211V Group Build

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  • From: kent uk
Posted by shroomy on Wednesday, January 5, 2005 2:00 AM
thank you for the welcome :)
thats good as this is my first step into bikes :) and it will be straight out the box so hopefully shouldnt be too hard lol
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 6, 2005 7:58 PM
Hi Guys

How are we all getting on with the build? I just started my Valencia bike today. Got most of the engine parts painted up and awaiting assembly. Still waiting on the sprays I need from the shop as well as some more C/F decal sheets. Might have to put the build on hold till I get them but I will carry on with what I can do in the mean time. Just as well we're not against the clock eh?

On another matter I got a digital camera as a christmas present so I will be able to get some progress pics on here for all to see. Thats if I can figure out how to download them off the camera as I dont have a PC at home just now!

Have fun modeling folks.
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  • From: Quantico, VA
Posted by Yamafreak72 on Thursday, January 6, 2005 8:06 PM
You guys are SOOO far ahead of me! I'm still not done with my V-22 (not a bike but still interesting), and I've got to head to NC next week. Oh well, maybe the LHS there will have the CF decals I also haven't gotten yet! You're right Mitchgixer, good thing we're not against the clock.
Status: Nastro Azzurro NSR 500- finis!
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  • From: NSW, Australia
Posted by pingtang on Thursday, January 6, 2005 10:42 PM
I've been away for a few days, so I haven't done any work on my RC211V. I'll get back into now though.

Welcome to the build shroomy. Can't wait to see some of your work.
-Daniel
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  • From: Fukuoka Japan / Brisbane AUS.
Posted by Chris_in_Japan on Saturday, January 8, 2005 7:09 AM
Thanks for the compliments guys, been away a few days myself.. My pics have been deleted, so I will have to re-post them at some stage.. I got the 1 decal done on my Camel bike, and well, thats as far as I have gotten on it... I think building the Repsol one so fast has taken it out of me? hehehe

Chris in Japan

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                          1/48 RAAF 3 Sqn F/A-18B

                          1/150 /1/160 N Scale Japanese Rail diorama.

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  • From: kent uk
Posted by shroomy on Saturday, January 8, 2005 11:35 AM
lol @ pingtang
as soon as i can learn to use a camera i will get em up :(
just been to my modelling club monthly meet and chatting to tony greenland getting some good tips for my stuff i have been building he is pointing me in the right direction :)
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Posted by shroomy on Sunday, January 9, 2005 11:25 AM
just for pintang :)

and this is two days :)
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  • From: Paarl, South Africa
Posted by SeaBee on Monday, January 10, 2005 1:28 AM
I must say, this is my first RC211V and this thing just goed together great! One of the best fits I have yet seen on a bike model! Just added the radiator, front suspension will be next victim.

Quick question: what is the colour of that top part (between handlebars) for these guys? Doing Max's 2003 ride... I have both colours Tamiya subscribe to mix, but one in acrylic and one enamel! So much for that mix...At this stage I started using a Metalizer Burnt Iron, a very dark brown-black with a bit of a coppery undertone. Close enough?
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  • From: NSW, Australia
Posted by pingtang on Monday, January 10, 2005 4:44 AM
Looking good shroomy.

seabee-Any dark sort of copper colour will be close. The colour looks different in just about every pic I've seen.
-Daniel
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 10, 2005 5:52 AM
[hubris mode on] Woohaa, I'm model god!!! Henry Ford would be proud of me as I'm making RCV engines like a maniac...[hubris mode off]

Well, what I wanted to say was that the three engines are coming together nicely, yesterday I stripped the frame and swing arm and painted it AlcladII polished aluminum. I've painted the rims but sort of diluted the paint to much so the spokes came out too dull. Decalling is almost done on the fairings of the Camel and Pramac bikes. The Telefonica one has to wait as I don't like the hue of the TS-51 color. Will strip it and repaint. My TS-17 can splashed all over so I'll airbrush the radiator instead.

SeaBee: Both repsol and telefonica machines of 2003 seems to use a darker shade of brown while camel seems to have a bit lighter colored tri clamp. As Pingtang sais it's probably changed during the season so go for something that looks good.
Take a look at my references that I posted earlier, think you can manage to see some of it there.
best regards
Joel
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 10, 2005 5:56 AM
If I hadn't started the decalling of the Camel bike I would definately go for this livery. Think it looks gorgeous with the seat part painted yellow instead of black.

http://www.onetwelvth.com/tips/referens/rcv03/camel03%20biaggi%20right.jpg

/Joel
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  • From: Paarl, South Africa
Posted by SeaBee on Monday, January 10, 2005 7:55 AM
Nice pics, Joel. As it happens, the colour I first had was actually spot-on. So here goes for another attempt.... strip, repaint, what's new...?!

Btw, excuse my ignorance, but what exactly is the diffs between the Camel livery on the pic (which's url you enclosed above) and the normal 03 Camel livery?

And, to add, I just came back from LHS. As it happens, I bought TS51. No, not for the Telefonica ride, but for the WRC GB. But, to add to your suspicions that the hue might not be right (for at least this Telefonica model), I see TS51 is now renamed! It is no longer "Telefonica Blue" as it was when I bought my first TS51 a couple of years ago, but "Racing Blue". What colour do Tamiya prescribe in their instructions?
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  • From: NSW, Australia
Posted by pingtang on Monday, January 10, 2005 9:31 PM
TS-51 is a bit of a generic colour I think. I first used it for the Telefonica Suzuki RGV-500, when it was called Telefonica blue. Then they called it Racing blue and used it for the Williams FW-24 and Telefonica RC211V. Now it's being used for the Yamaha YZR-M1 '04. I think it's too dark for most of these kits, but it's close enough so I'll use it.
-Daniel
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 6:07 AM
SeaBee; the difference lies in the part upon which the seat cowling is mounted. Don't know the name but it's the part to wich you also attach the muffler. On the racing liveries and the Tamiya model this part is black but on the pictures it has the yellow color of other cowling parts. Looks nice if you ask me but the decals is different from the ones I've applied.
About the TS-51 "racing blue" it is that paint that the instructions call for. As Pingtang sais it's a close match anyhow but be careful and apply very thin coats as it easily gets too dark.
/Joel
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 11:36 AM
Finished up on the decal job for the Pramac and Camel bikes. Will let them be for a week or two and then clear coat.
/Joel

by the way, have we decided upon a close date for this GB yet?
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Posted by pingtang on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 8:17 PM
I don't think there is a finish date yet. Does everyone want one? Or are you happy with the open ended thing?
-Daniel
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Posted by shroomy on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 12:14 AM
open ending :) as i am so slow :)
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 12:45 AM
ok for me, doesn't really matter I guess even though it puts a bit of preassure on the participants to get going.
/Joel
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  • From: Paarl, South Africa
Posted by SeaBee on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 1:19 AM
Open-ended will work for me in the sense that (like yesterday eve) I still have to do a lot of stuff around the house. And 3/4 being through one (and two other builds going) does not bid well for starting on a new one shortly. But Joel has a point.

Apart from that, I was just too stunned yesterday after hearing of the tragic loss of Fabricio Meoni. I was planning on doing a MTB ride the afternoon and just decided to rather leave it, after hearing the news; never touched my MTB yesterday. Thoughts to his family and friends, esp those that still have to complete the rest of the Dakar.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 6:18 PM
I second that. What a loss to the sporting world. My thoughts and prayers are with his family and close friends.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 13, 2005 3:20 AM
First my thaught and deepest sympathies with the Meoni family. Very sorry for your loss.

Next to some progress pics. As it happened I had the chance to borrow a digital camera last night and snapped some photos. They're taken inside and with a fool behind the lens so bare with me on the quality.

First is the cowling parts of the Camel bike. Done as the bike Biaggi used duing qualify of the Dutch TT at Assen.



Next is the livery of Makoto Tamadas Pramac bike from the Italian GP.
The front fender is missing as my putty job was below my level of satisfaction. The "red" paint on the seat cowl and lower cowl is not matching the color of the decals... It looked good after first coat but after three it is too red...



last a pictures of the frame/swing arm threesome. The Teléfonica set to the far left isn't decaled yet as it has to get some more AlcladII on the swing arm. Left the foremost section of the frames out as it's not visible and the foot protection is left out to be decalled with CF.



best regards
Joel
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Posted by SeaBee on Friday, January 14, 2005 1:29 AM
Aah, the birthday bike! Looking good, Joel!
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Posted by pingtang on Friday, January 14, 2005 6:11 AM
Looking very nice Joel. The bodywork turned out great.
-Daniel
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 14, 2005 6:29 AM
thanks, as I said the red on the Pramac doesn't match the decals as you'll se on finished bike but overall it's satisfying. They will cure for a week or so and then get some clear. Heard today that my Rainbow10 order is being dispatched so soon I can put some paint on the Teléfonica again.
/joel
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  • From: Fukuoka Japan / Brisbane AUS.
Posted by Chris_in_Japan on Sunday, January 16, 2005 8:04 AM
Hey Joel.. I looked at the pic of the camel bike.. WHat am I missing?.. Looks normal to me.. Must be just me?... When I look at the Camel bike.. I always prefer the larger Honda eagle decal that takes up the whole tank, as they have on the Repsol bikes... Lastly.. The Pramac decals.. where do you get them?

Dont worry.. I am truelly an idiot!

Chris in Japan

On the bench:

                          1/48 RAAF 3 Sqn F/A-18B

                          1/150 /1/160 N Scale Japanese Rail diorama.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 17, 2005 1:45 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by AusLexusJapan

Hey Joel.. I looked at the pic of the camel bike.. WHat am I missing?..
Dont worry.. I am truelly an idiot!


Don't worry Chris, you're not an idiot for missing out on what I wanted to say. Guess it wasn't very easy to get my point. What I wanted to share was the pic of a Camel bike with a slightly different livery than the ones I've seen during races. If I hadn't started on my own kit I would have built this one. Here's a pic where I've circled the area I'm talkning about. This yellow part is black on my other reference pics.



QUOTE: Originally posted by AusLexusJapan
[Lastly.. The Pramac decals.. where do you get them?


They are Studio 27 decals. I got them from mediamixhobby.com.sg but you can try at hlj.com or rainbowten.co.jp as well.
best regards
Joel
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 17, 2005 4:11 AM
Got some progress pics. Hope they turn out OK as it's my first time posting pics as well as the first pics I've taken on my new digi cam. Here goes.......

Engine components before assembly



Some pics of the engine assembled









Some pics of the frame....







And some pics of the brake disks before assembly...



Hope these look OK. Might be abit dark so will need to get that sorted for the next update.

Got my carbon decals from Mediamix through this morning so hopefully there should be some good progress made in the next few days. Currently working on the swing arm , chain, suspension etc at the moment. Still waiting on my spray paints though.......

Mitch

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 17, 2005 9:14 AM
can't see the pics :-(
/Joel
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 17, 2005 10:31 AM
Hope that's better. I put the pics onto a different site.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 17, 2005 11:02 AM
Mitchgixer6, looks that you're up to a great start.
/joel
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