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"Size Matters" - Large aircraft build '06-Whenever

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Posted by tho9900 on Saturday, May 13, 2006 5:46 PM
Ok Geoff... I'll do that... I usually get too much over my head in GB's, but if it were all the same plane spread out over several I reckon it wouldn't be that hard!  Thanks!!
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 13, 2006 5:56 PM

I forgot to mention that the Concorde will be in Air France markings. Lots of white paint! Thanks for allowing me to join this group!

 

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Posted by Lucien Harpress on Saturday, May 13, 2006 8:36 PM
 gedenke wrote:

No problem, Mike, I've got you in for a "possibly". By the way, what scale will your Goose be?

She's gonna be nice and big, in spirit and in fact- 1/72!  (The wingspan's about 53 inches, just over 4 feet, and the fuselage is just over three feet long)  Yeah, put me down as fully committed.

I've done quite a bit of work on it already.  Both wing floats are glued together, and one is pretty much fully sanded.  I already scratchbuilt an interior, and the hull is glued together, and in the process of puttying and sanding.  The putty/sand stage will probably go on for quite some time.  The kit is only 14 vacuform parts, but the fit is so bad it's still a pain in the rear.

Half of the tail is done, and pretty soon I'm going to need to start scratchbuilding some control surfaces.  Add to this my goal to motorize it, and there you go- enough work to keep me busy unitl the end of the Group Build!  Wink [;)]

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Posted by gedenke on Sunday, May 14, 2006 12:54 AM

Sounds good, Tom! So, B-25, right? What scale are you working?

And Mike, you are indeed an animal! ....53" wingspan?! Wow!

Mark, happy to have you, we'll look forward to your Concord.

-Geoff There is an art . . . to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. — Douglas Adams, 'The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy'.
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Posted by tho9900 on Sunday, May 14, 2006 8:19 AM

Geoff - I'm not sure which I'll be building yet, I have the Hasegawa B25J in 1/72 but I'm thinking of getting one of the AccMinn 1/48 B-25's ... I mean, size matters right?  Wink [;)]  I'll let you know after I go through some more pics of his unit and get a feel for which variant was used the most in the S. Pacific...

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Posted by gedenke on Sunday, May 14, 2006 5:26 PM
No problem, Tom. Take your time.
-Geoff There is an art . . . to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. — Douglas Adams, 'The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy'.
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Posted by Lucien Harpress on Sunday, May 14, 2006 7:19 PM

Okay, another update- a comparison pic (or two):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/LHprs/compare1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/LHprs/compare2.jpg

The wings are just temporarily taped together to a temporary wing spar.  (If you notice, the wings are flat, with no dihedral)  But you can see the size of this thing.  Both kits are 1/72, and you can see the foot-long ruler at the bottom.

You can also see some of my putty-work around the cockpit- and I'm still working at it.  Sanding goes on...   Wink [;)]

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Posted by gedenke on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 8:21 PM

Holy bagels, Batman! Mike that thing is massive! I can't wait to see it finished! Keep us posted.

Oh, I almost forgot, this is to everyone, large helicopters are also welcome in this build. So, if you have a Super Stallion or a Hind sittin' around, jump on in!

Here's a little appetizer for the GB. It's an old 1/48 Monogram C-47 I did last year. Although it's not my offering for this build, I thought I'd post a pic anyway. I've since added antenna wires, so maybe I'll update the pic later...

-Geoff There is an art . . . to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. — Douglas Adams, 'The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy'.
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Posted by tho9900 on Thursday, May 18, 2006 8:38 PM
Geoff - looks good!  I've got a hankering to build one of those "one of these days" but all these great GB's pop up!!!  One day i will build a model on my own!  Wink [;)]
---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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Posted by Jaypack55 on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 8:59 PM

Here's my B-24 as of a couple days ago. I decided to use a new technique I like to call "prefading", where I applied an irregular brush coat of MM Faded olive drab over MM| green drab, followed by a thin blotchy coat of MM Olive drab. These pictures show the a/c before the final OD was applied. I'll try to get some more pics posted later in the week. It now has the final OD coat applied and I've applied the National insignia decals to the upper wing and left fuselage, I'll do the other two tonight.

Here's a close up of the pattern of faded OD

An overall shot

-Josh

Current Builds: If I were to list everything I have in progress, it'd take way too long! Some notable inclusions:

Hasegawa 1:48 KI-84

Tamiya 1:48 P-51D (in Iwo Jima long-range escort markings)

4 (yes, four) Tamiya 1:48 F4U-1s (1x -1D, 1x -1A, and 2x -1s)

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Posted by gedenke on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 7:50 PM
Josh, looks like you have a good head start on our build, the only thing I've done with mine is scribe the panel lines on the vertical and horizontal stabs. I'm interested to see your "prefading" method completed. I think the biggest challenge for my B-24 will be printing the decals, since my cheap-o printer probably won't do.
-Geoff There is an art . . . to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. — Douglas Adams, 'The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy'.
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Posted by tho9900 on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 8:04 PM
Geoff - what kind of printer do you have?  My Epson I used to have printed good decals on the "Best quality setting"... I am looking forward to seeing how the new HP Photosmart printer I got does on decals... the pics are very sharp and precise, hope the decals are!
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Posted by tho9900 on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 8:07 PM
hmm.. that prefading is an interesting thought, and as the B-25 will *probably* be an OD over Lt Gray bird I might have a go at it with the airbrush... If I can get the B-25H AccMin just came out with I might do a hard nosed B-25 in NMF... although I think I had my fill of NMF with the last P-47 I did...  Wink [;)]
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Posted by gedenke on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 10:21 PM
Tom, I think it's a Lexmark x1150, or something to that nature. It came free w/ my computer a while back, it's been out of ink for some time now, so I'd have to dig it out of the closet. Hey, while we're talking about printing decals, anybody have a recommendation for a good quality, not-too-exspensive decal paper (and where online to buy)?
-Geoff There is an art . . . to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. — Douglas Adams, 'The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy'.
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Posted by Tecs on Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:26 PM
Hi all, I would like to join in,I am going to be building the Monogram EA-6B in 1/48, is this big enough?, I have the Black Box resin cockpit set on order so once this is with me I will be ready to rock and roll.

Give me the nod if my machine is of sufficiant size (ooh err), it seeems quite large in the box!
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Posted by gedenke on Thursday, May 25, 2006 5:05 PM

 Tecs wrote:
Hi all, I would like to join in,I am going to be building the Monogram EA-6B in 1/48, is this big enough?, I have the Black Box resin cockpit set on order so once this is with me I will be ready to rock and roll.

Well, initially, I was thinking that an EA-6 was more of a fighter size aircraft, but then I checked the stats compared to a B-25 (which up 'til now was this build's smallest). Turns out the Prowler is actually longer and heavier (empty weight) than the B-25. So, given that, the fact that you're working in 1/48, and the EA-6B does have a crew of 4, I guess I have to say OK. Welcome aboard, Tecs.

-Geoff There is an art . . . to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. — Douglas Adams, 'The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy'.
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Posted by tho9900 on Thursday, May 25, 2006 7:36 PM

hmmm I gotta go get the AccMin B-25 in 1/48 now... to keep in the spirit of things at least...

On a side note I finally found the link to my uncle almost definitely flying in B-36's... immediately post war he went to "Advanced Gunnery School" which appears to be where they taught the 'computerized' turrets used on the B-29's which most of his unit converted to... and around 1953 the 42nd bomb Group became the 42nd Bomb Wing and at least part of the squadron went over to B-36's... still plodding along with the history though...  the details of what I have found are over in the Memorial Day GB..

Geoff - I looked up some specs on your printer and it should be able to handle small and moderate sized decals just fine!!!  (I don't know how it would handle B-29 nose art in 1/48 but maybe so!) If you do try it use the "Best Quality" setting by going into the printer preferences and changing it there.  Just remember to let it "cure" about 48 hours before spraying it with the fixative...   I've used the Testors paper with no probs, I've heard the paper micro-mark sells is good too, maybe a little thinner than the Testors which would let it settle in better I would think...

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Posted by gedenke on Thursday, May 25, 2006 8:13 PM
Thanks, Tom! Heck, I'll get some ink and give it a try. Worst thing that could happen is it doesn't turn out and I waste a sheet of decal paper or two. Oh, and thanks for the update on your uncle, it's interesting to see how his story is unfolding.
-Geoff There is an art . . . to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. — Douglas Adams, 'The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy'.
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Posted by Lucien Harpress on Monday, May 29, 2006 8:48 PM

A bunch of work has been done on the H-4, but unfortunately, none of it is very picture-friendly.  I've spent about a week (and half a tube of putty!) on a seam about 9 inches long.  My problem is that, because I plan to finish it in overall aluminum, the seamwork needs to be flawless.  I've finally got it acceptable (not perfect...), but there's still a few feet (dare I say yards?) of seams left to finish.  This is gonna take a while...

Wish me luck!  I'm gonna need it...  Dead [xx(]

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Posted by PanzerWulff on Monday, May 29, 2006 9:16 PM
I think I'm going to hold off on my B-36 at the moment I really need to get up to speed on my NMF skills before I want to tackle it, so I'm going to do a 1/72 B-52 instead I'll get back to you on which version later TTFN
ACE??? you were NEVER an ace AN ace HOLE maybe! (Lister to Rimmer on BBC's RED DWARF) Chris"Hey GRAVITY still works"Gray
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Posted by gedenke on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 8:18 PM

-Mike, I'll definately wish you luck on that one, I still think you're partially insane! I can only imagine trying to do that in my little townhouse, that beast would nearly fill my living room! Keep us posted.

-Chris, no problem man, I'll update the list.

-Geoff There is an art . . . to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. — Douglas Adams, 'The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy'.
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Posted by tho9900 on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 9:26 PM

 PanzerWulff wrote:
I think I'm going to hold off on my B-36 at the moment I really need to get up to speed on my NMF skills before I want to tackle it, so I'm going to do a 1/72 B-52 instead I'll get back to you on which version later TTFN

Chris - if you can find it, Floquil old silver provides a NMF very close if not better than Alclad (better because it's half the prep time)  It's an enamel so it goes on flawless and has a very metallic sheen to it... just an idea in case you want to tackle it later... it brushes well too with very little thinning!

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 3, 2006 4:35 PM
can i join? i have a revell germany 1/72 blohm und voss bv 222 to contribute.
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Posted by gedenke on Saturday, June 3, 2006 6:23 PM
Absolutely! That aircraft would be not only rare but the first German offering. If you're in, welcome aboard!
-Geoff There is an art . . . to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. — Douglas Adams, 'The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy'.
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Posted by tho9900 on Saturday, June 3, 2006 8:54 PM

 Sturzkampf wrote:
can i join? i have a revell germany 1/72 blohm und voss bv 222 to contribute.

that would be a good build to see!  An interesting looking aircraft....  Welcome aboard!!!

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, June 4, 2006 11:21 AM
woohoo!!! its very nice, ive finished it recently, and ill send you some photos when i can. i only have to put the german crosses and numbers.
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Posted by gedenke on Sunday, June 4, 2006 10:35 PM
 tho9900 wrote:

Chris - if you can find it, Floquil old silver provides a NMF very close if not better than Alclad (better because it's half the prep time)  It's an enamel so it goes on flawless and has a very metallic sheen to it... just an idea in case you want to tackle it later... it brushes well too with very little thinning!

How do you think the Model Master Metalizers would stack up to the Floquil? (my LHS has them in stock)

-Geoff There is an art . . . to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. — Douglas Adams, 'The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy'.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 8, 2006 7:50 PM
ive lost the decals!!!!! the worst is that i cant paint them cause i dont know how big are the decals and im short of black'n white paint.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 9, 2006 3:46 PM
what can i do now???
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Posted by tho9900 on Friday, June 9, 2006 6:20 PM
 gedenke wrote:
 tho9900 wrote:

Chris - if you can find it, Floquil old silver provides a NMF very close if not better than Alclad (better because it's half the prep time)  It's an enamel so it goes on flawless and has a very metallic sheen to it... just an idea in case you want to tackle it later... it brushes well too with very little thinning!

How do you think the Model Master Metalizers would stack up to the Floquil? (my LHS has them in stock)

The buffable ones provide a nice finish but they are a little fragile.  Make sure to get some of their metalizer sealant when you get the NMF.  If helps protect it.  This is for the buffable finishes mainly, the regular metal finishes should be fine without it... The bottles look very similar so be sure to read them before ya buy so you know if you need the sealer...

Good Luck!

-=edit=-

I just looked at squadron and they have an "aluminum plate" MM buffing metalizer that should do the trick nicely... it would need the sealer...  I've used their burnt metal and burnt iron buffig metalizers and they look good so I am sure this one won't dissapoint!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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