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  • Member since
    June 2006
  • From: Queensland Australia
Posted by Mark T Gold Coast on Wednesday, October 4, 2006 3:43 PM

Thanks osher,

I've pre-shaded the underside and tonight I'm hoping to get the light grey painted.

Then it's on to the landing gear, tanks and weapons.

I hope to have those done by the end of the week and the whole thing finished not long after that.

Cheers

Mark

 

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    April 2003
  • From: Edgware, London
Posted by osher on Tuesday, October 3, 2006 3:49 PM
Wow!  That looks excellent!!!  Great paint job, and yes, wonderful weathering.
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    June 2006
  • From: Queensland Australia
Posted by Mark T Gold Coast on Tuesday, October 3, 2006 1:42 AM

Finally got a paint finish I'm happy with!

After severa attempts at free handing it and several different colour shades I'm now happy with the result.

I ended up painting the whole a/c grey and then masking the patern with blue tac as you can see.

I don't know if it was the blue tac 'bleaching' the paint under where it was applied, as I left it on for 3 days, or if it was just overspray but I ended up with a very obvious lighter colour where the bt was.

I ended up going over the boundary areas again free hand and thought I'd have a shot at 'post shading'.

I've never done anything like this before and am happy with the weathered look.

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    June 2006
  • From: Queensland Australia
Posted by Mark T Gold Coast on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 12:14 AM

I'm currently struggling with my paint job.

I can't seem to get the colours right. I'm using gunze acrylics and they're either too dark or too light.

If I can't nail it with these I have some mm enamels I used on a previous build.

It's a pretty involved camo scheme and I HATE masking. I've been free handing all my camo as i like the soft edge but the mirage scheme looses some of it's definition so it looks like I'll be masking it.

I'll have one more go at it with drawing the pattern on to follow before I resort to masking.

I'll post some pics when I've got something worth showing.

 

  • Member since
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  • From: Edgware, London
Posted by osher on Tuesday, September 26, 2006 6:16 PM
Hey Simon, glad to hear from you!  I'm a bit quiet on my Mirages too.  Wonder how everyone else is doing?
  • Member since
    August 2006
  • From: South Coast NSW, Australia
Posted by Simon L on Tuesday, September 26, 2006 6:11 PM

Hi Guys

 

No progress on my Mirages. I 'm in a 'finsh all the unfinished kits' mode and am currently finishing a 1/48 Argentinian Skyhawk.......my local model shop proprietor is ex RN, and he said I should display in in an 'underwater' diorama.

 

Once done, it's back to the Mirages. I have an email at work that I will post in from some RAAF buddies who worked on Mirages. Very amusing story about how one of the ARDU ones ended up in the 'Fanta Can' colour scheme.

 

Keep ya posted

 

Sime

Simon

 

  • Member since
    May 2006
  • From: Nanaimo, BC, Canada
Posted by Brews on Saturday, September 23, 2006 6:23 PM

I see that there is an aftermarket product now for the exhaust:

http://acc.kitreview.com/mc32001reviewsh_1.htm

However, I am not impressed with the representation of the corrugated thermal liner, and the overall complexity of the product.

  • Member since
    April 2003
  • From: Edgware, London
Posted by osher on Friday, September 22, 2006 9:26 PM
Well, I've broken new ground with my Mirage.  In the end I went for a second hand Fujimi kit.  Not bad, but...  ah, the famous but!  In this instance, it seems that I have bits of 2 kits to contend with.  Hmmm, the fuselage seems right, except, it doesn't match the instructions.  As for interior, well, I have two to chose from.  The better one doesn't have instructions, but seems to fit the fuselage.  I would say though, that one can feel the quality of this early Fujimi kit.  The (lesser) interior went together like a dream, and the plastic felt high quality.  The lesser interior is the one with the tombstone seat.
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  • From: Edgware, London
Posted by osher on Saturday, September 16, 2006 4:43 AM
 Brews wrote:
I made a couple of harness belts out of wine-bottle foil last night. I'm going to leave it alone for a little while, because I want to finish some other things before I go to Telford in November.
See you there!  I'll be there with my IPMS
  • Member since
    May 2006
  • From: Nanaimo, BC, Canada
Posted by Brews on Friday, September 15, 2006 11:01 PM
I made a couple of harness belts out of wine-bottle foil last night. I'm going to leave it alone for a little while, because I want to finish some other things before I go to Telford in November.
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    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 14, 2006 6:14 PM
G'day Jacob,

I'm not sure about an "extended probe", I do know of one which had another probe fitted below the normal one which we have covered in our book. This may be the one you are thinking of.

If you send me an e-mail to hyper16@tpg.com.au I can send you an image.

Cheers,
Motty.

  • Member since
    May 2006
  • From: Nanaimo, BC, Canada
Posted by Brews on Thursday, September 14, 2006 1:33 AM

This photo, from the links provided above, shows the weathering pattern on the undersides very well indeed!

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    May 2006
  • From: Nanaimo, BC, Canada
Posted by Brews on Wednesday, September 13, 2006 3:07 PM

I had searched and searched and hadn't found a single aftermarket set - not even a "shocker". I must be useless at googling. :)

I had, however, wondered about how to replicate the corrugated metal in the afterburner. I'd thought about using 0.005" card, and rolling it one way, then the other, but railway stock sure makes sense.

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    September 2006
Posted by Jacob Russell on Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:22 PM

Hi Motty,

 Thanks very much for posting those links; I know that I will find them extremely useful! The Mushroom publication on Mirages is definitely on my list of books to buy this fall. Are you familiar with a Mirage III that was part of the ARDU, with the grey/green camouflage pattern and an orange nose with an extended data gathering probe on the end of the nose? I saw a black and white profile of this plane in another publication  and was wondering if you knew of any colour pictures of this plane?

 

Thanks!

 

Sincerely,

 

Jacob Russell

  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 13, 2006 8:36 AM
G'day Guys,

I hope you don't mind me butting in on your thread but I found you via one of my photos on Airliners.net.

I am a bit of a modeller and enthusiast myself and am interested in the Aussie aspect of your group build and I just wanted to let the Aussie guys know about the collection of RAAF Mirage photos on my web site in case they are of assistance in your builds.

http://motty.hobbyvista.com

http://motty.hobbyvista.com/Mirages/Mirages-Index.html

Also, in case you haven't seen it, I wrote this book with a very good friend of mine that might be of interest as well

http://mmpbooks.biz/books/8389450143/8389450143r.htm

http://mmpbooks.biz/books/8389450143/8389450143p.htm

To join in the modelling theme of things, here's a couple of examples of what my late friend and co-authour, Paul Mason, did with the Revell 1/32 Kit

http://www.aussiemodeller.com/pages/Gallery/MirageA3-20_mason.html

http://www.aussiemodeller.com/pages/Gallery/MirageIII_Mason.html


Good luck with the builds guys and I hope this has been of some help. :-)

If there's anything else I can help with, please let me know.

Cheers,
Motty.





  • Member since
    May 2006
  • From: Nanaimo, BC, Canada
Posted by Brews on Monday, September 11, 2006 3:56 PM

Hey Mark,

You don't have to make work for yourself, you know! If you're going to use tape, may I suggest that you don't use it for masking, but instead paint it first, and then leave it in place, in the same way that you would leave decal film in place. It would add a little 3D relief, just like the real thing.

  • Member since
    June 2006
  • From: Queensland Australia
Posted by Mark T Gold Coast on Monday, September 11, 2006 3:44 PM

Brews,

Yeh, the the bright blue scope has been bugging me a bit and having someone point it out is all the motivation I need to go and do something about it. I will tone it down and I think I'll make a hood for it too like I've seen it the photo's. I'll re do the ejection triggers too. I was a bit impatient getting the thing finished. I think I'll paint them black, wrap a fine bit of tape around them and then paint the yellow. I'll do this before I bend them to shape too and then I'll tone the yellow down to make them look a little less 'new'. Thanks for the constructive input brews. I'm still pretty new to this and have to fight the urge to just close the thing up and get some paint and decals on it.

Thanks.

Mark

  • Member since
    September 2006
Posted by Jacob Russell on Monday, September 11, 2006 3:35 PM

I agree 100% that the AML kit is stunning, I just am not that enthused by any of the decal options-I have the Israeli Mirage kit-which is why I am leaning towards the High Planes kit. I have the single seater and 2 seater, as well as their cool Atlas Cheetah kit.

Isradecal has a new sheet devoted to the Mirage, so I may well pick that up.

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    April 2003
  • From: Edgware, London
Posted by osher on Monday, September 11, 2006 3:06 PM
 Jacob Russell wrote:

You can count me in! The Mirage is one of my favorite airplanes. I will build either the 1/72nd AML Or High Planes Mirage III kits-I haven't decided which one yet.Thanks for the invitation!Smile [:)]

  Hi, and welcome aboard!  The AML kit is stunning!  I haven't built mine yet, but wow!

  • Member since
    September 2006
Posted by Jacob Russell on Monday, September 11, 2006 2:59 PM

You can count me in! The Mirage is one of my favorite airplanes. I will build either the 1/72nd AML Or High Planes Mirage III kits-I haven't decided which one yet.

 

Thanks for the invitation!Smile [:)]

  • Member since
    May 2006
  • From: Nanaimo, BC, Canada
Posted by Brews on Monday, September 11, 2006 12:14 PM

Thanks, Mark.

It's just sculpture, though, not rocket science. I might sell the master to True Details, what do you think?. <G>

Your cockpit looks great, too, but you might consider painting the "tigers" at the top of the seat, and in between the legs, yellow, and wrapping a thin strip of black decal film around it ("right hand thread"), rather than painting black stripes. Are you planning on "toning down" that prominent blue display on the IP?

Cheerio,

Bruce

  • Member since
    June 2006
  • From: Queensland Australia
Got the Pit done (minus stick)
Posted by Mark T Gold Coast on Monday, September 11, 2006 2:59 AM

Got my cockpit tub and seat done.

the IP was cast as part of the cockpit and the instruments were so fine, that after several painting and dry brushing attempts, I decided to cut the decal provided and position the instruments seperately.

I'm pretty happy with the results as this is the first time I've done anything this detailed.

By the way Brews,

that's a fantastic job you're doing there. Really opened my eyes to the various uses for milliput.  Thanks for that. I look forward to playing some.

 

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    May 2006
  • From: Nanaimo, BC, Canada
Posted by Brews on Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:34 AM

Uh, it's not really.

I haven't touched it since the other night. It doesn't take long to roll up some milliput.

I finished up the milliput I'd made last night at this stage ... and made a 1:72 bedroll and sandbag with the remainder.

The pictures are not deliberately out of focus, by the way.

 

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  • From: Edgware, London
Posted by osher on Sunday, September 10, 2006 6:07 AM
Strewth mate!  That's a lot of work you're putting into your Mirage.
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  • From: Nanaimo, BC, Canada
Posted by Brews on Sunday, September 10, 2006 2:54 AM

So, tonight, I made some milliputty cushions, sufficient to absorb the force of a 70kg pilot at 9g (ie about 630kg force). Original seat used for comparison:

I photographed the brighter ones with flash, the duller ones with little light. I thought there was merit in including both sets.

  • Member since
    May 2006
  • From: Nanaimo, BC, Canada
Posted by Brews on Wednesday, September 6, 2006 6:37 AM

I haven't looked at plans, just photos, and I'm using the kit tub as a guide. Shoot me if that's unreasonable.

I have made a start on the seat, using the plastic from a 1litre yoghurt container (sans yoghurt, post-wash). The lower seat sides have been cut out, and glued using tamiya liquid cement to a spacer. It might look like the kit seat bottom, but it will have cushions on top of it when complete.

The seat adjustment lever will be located on the port (lhs) of the seat. There is room to see it, and place it.

Edit: Final pic for the night (perhaps for the week)

The next parts: the seat lower back side frame, and the front, including a switch box for something - I don't know what (or should that be je ne sais quois?)

  • Member since
    May 2006
  • From: Nanaimo, BC, Canada
Posted by Brews on Tuesday, September 5, 2006 10:23 PM

Yes ... I'm building one in 1:32.

I got as far last night as cutting the sprue off the fuselage halves, and separated the wing pieces as well. One half of one wing had a bit of flash on it, that was quite thick, near the leading edge wing root, so that it was difficult to see what was part and what was flash - luckily the thing has straight edges! On the minus side, I cut off a locating lug, but that's no big deal.

The wheel bays are like Mother Hubbard's Cupboard, but at least they're boxed-in.

The pilot figure, I'm afraid, is beyond redemption. the seat is horrible, and generally, a lot of work is needed in the office.

I'm not going to measure this kit and compare it to plans. It has the appearance of a Mirage IIIE/O, and that's good enough for me.

The engine is something, though. I'm guessing it's close on 200mm long. Again, it needs some finesse, but it's a good start. It's certainly about the same standard as the J-79 in Hasegawa's F-104.

As this is a big-enough scale to scratch build details in, that's what I'll be doing, rather than AM stuff. That, and there doesn't appear to be much available.

Edit: Photos below added.

  • Member since
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  • From: Edgware, London
Posted by osher on Tuesday, September 5, 2006 6:54 AM
Looks like our two Antepodians have made a great start!  Seeing a Mirage in Aussie colours should be interesting, as normally it's French or Israeli, and a lot of Swiss, SA, and Argentinian too.
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  • From: Queensland Australia
Posted by Mark T Gold Coast on Tuesday, September 5, 2006 5:26 AM

Here's another  reference site.

http://www.adf-serials.com/gallery/Mirage-III?page=1

  • Member since
    June 2006
  • From: Queensland Australia
Posted by Mark T Gold Coast on Tuesday, September 5, 2006 5:06 AM

The MB MK IV was used pre 1986. The Mk VI was part of an upgrade program the RAAF mirages went through.

High Planes do both in 48th but you're building in 32nd aren't you?

Hope this helps Brews.

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