Bf-109 GB

Bf-109  Fine Moodels in progres ....

Is AML shot run , is ugly !!!!!!!!!!

Ok i have onley two model to bulding AML Bf-109 K4 , Fine Models Bf-109 G-4 .

Photo tonight.

Hi , i take foto nr. four , I bay new DSLR A100 from Sony i try take good foto , but i must practise.

I have 2 model to bulding , but one in africa camo. Is not EH paiting.

Nice 1/32 Hasegawa , big model kit.

Just in case anyone is interested, I recently finished a 1/32 Hasegawa Bf109G-14 done in Erich Hartmann's winter scheme. 

nice job Rafhart !

another Me109 to be shot down LOL. Seriously, I have Tamiya 1/48 but I wait until my painting skills will match the Me109 challange

I really would like to know how did you make those spots .. 

Not yet

Greg 

Daywalker wrote:

Rafhart- Are you still building '109s?  Haven't seen any photos in a while.

 Yes i have holiday now. But i beck from the Baltic Sea i finish number four.

So here are my completed builds, one Hartman Bf-109 G6 and a Spanish Civil War Legion Condor Bf-109 B1, both in 1:72.  The Hartman 109 is the Hasegawa G6 offering with a Hawkeye resin tail and the Legion Condor is the Heller kit, actually a very nice kit, it had more CP detail than the Hasegawa kit! 

Enjoy!  All comments welcome.

Rafhart-

Are you still building '109s?  Haven't seen any photos in a while.

I'll enter with Hasegawa's 1/48 G-6

Ok. 3 is ready , photos is my gallery.

LINK

now is time for number 4.......

 I use air onley.

Rafhart- That one looks especially nice!  Love the spinning prop, very realistic.

MrDrummy- I think it's OK to join in.  It's pretty quiet around here, and Rudy hasn't been around in a few months.

Hey-- can I get in on this?  I realize that I am the ultimate late-comer, but I'd love to hop in here.

Let me know!  I've got a Hasegawa E7, F4, and F2 that should be done pretty soon...

WOW, now thats a special looking model Rafhart. Have you got a motor in the front or is that photoshop. Either way it looks awesome.

...Guy

Hey CJ, that looks damn fine to me. Nice splinter as well.

...Guy

Finally got a replacement canopy from squadron.

 Not my best effort, but I do like the splinter camo job.

I guess its ok for my first 109

Daywalker wrote:

Rafhart- You are a machine!  You keep turning out great looking aircraft.

No Im lazy ;)

Rafhart-

You are a machine!  You keep turning out great looking aircraft.

Work ...work ...work....

Thank , Boys go to work.

Rafhart-

Absolutely stunning!

Next in progres

I finished

More photo in My Gallery

Thank , almost finish.

and some of my spanish civil war 109b.  The rudder decals are giving me fits so I think I'll strip and then mask/paint it.

thank , i "wosh" him , is dirty now.

Rafhart, SWWEEETT!!!

Beautiful job, very clean, love the camo scheme

Tony

Woohoo, some more progress!  I finally got the future on and decals will be coming soon!  Once I get some decals on I'll post some pics of my Hartman Bf-109g and the Spanish Civil war Bf-109b. 

I am going to attempt to use the orignial decals for the Bf-109b, everybody pray for me!!

Tony,

it looks to me you did a very nice job. This is  a huge scale :) I am using 1/48 - but this is a very realistic plane. The wheatering is really adding life to this plane. I wish I learn one day how to do it for my planes.

Pretty impressssive job !!

Greg 

Here is my interpretation of an MPC Bf109e. The kit is from 1984 and probably explains the warpage.

The plate behind the pilot's seat had to be built with Squadron green putty then sanded and covered with bare-metal-foil

The prop blades have steel edges to represent wear.

I left off the gun covers to show the ammo barrels each hole in the cartridge was drilled out, along with the gun barrels.

This is a big bird 1/24 scale

Wrong decal on the left (starboard?) wing. The big white patterns belong on the bottom of the wing

Sorry about the focus, shaking hands.

The spring on the antenna wire is made from thin speaker wire wrapped around a small finishing nail.

I hated this plane, now I have come to respect it.

Comments, critiques, and suggestions for the future are always welcome.

Ouch, it sounds like a really painfull project. What build is it ? Monogram ?

Please post the pics. I can't wait to see this bird :) 

Greg 

That doesn't look very "beginners" to me, good work.

I am waiting for my pics to upload to photobucket then I will post my version of the Bf 109e. I gained a lot of respect for thoses who make the problem children kits look good. I can only hope to get better with each build. This was a total monster. The cowling did not fit the well detailed engine so I had to add strips of styrene to build it up. That meant that the cockpit had to be modified and the "hump" after the cockpit. I used a LOT of putty on this bird. I had to break off the rear rudders(?) and reposition them because the plane was WAY out of skew and looked like a drunk (not that there is any thing wrong with a drink or two or three or maybe a couple of more after that) built it on a Monday hangover. I think it turned out Ok. Maybe a little too much weathering. Oh btw I knew it as soon as I started spraying the matte finish. I forgot to mask the cockpit glass. I found new hope for us. I thought about a previous post about using brake fluid to clear up the frost that ensued. I Didn't have any. Liquid wrench works just as well

Thanks Tony !

I will place my Tamiya 1/48 Bf 109 E4. I have Techmod decals but not decided which one to pick. I am strugling with fixing my Spitfire first and I hope I gain more experience soon. I would like to make a camo like this one:

but ... my airbrush experience is at the "very begginers" level - I just made my first camo (with an airbrush) on this one:

 Greg

gzt, I'm not in charge around here but this is a year long build and I see no reason not to you.

I have the decals on my 1984 MPC Bf109-e and have given it a wash. The decals were horrible and THICK I gave them a coat of testors decal sealent and they still broke apart. If I were not so blind I probably would have put the decals in the correct locations and right side up. It's always something with me. This has got to be my best build and I will post as soon as finished. I still need to replace broken parts and give it some minor tweaks. See you soon.

Tony

I am here and ...

I have a Tamiya 1/48 109 E4/7 and finally have all stuff ready to go :) 

can I join you ??

Greg

Seems pretty quiet around here except for a few of us.  Anybody else still building here?

Anybody seen Rudy lately?

I fix painting , litle .....

Hi  "Grab Jeden" ,

I have a Tamiya 1/48 109 E4/7 and finally have all stuff ready to go :) 

If its possible I would like to put my own 5 cents into this GB.

Greg

ps. just got full 8 episodes two months ago 

Looking good Jay!  The 109B is the Hobbycraft kit right?  How is it?  I have that in the stash to be built some day..... 

I got some time the last few days to work on my 109b and g.  I got some more painting done.  The 109b needs a coat of future and then decals!  The 109g still needs the yellow panels then some future and decals!  I'm not too happy with the G camo/mottling.  when I put on the rlm75, it went on very smothly with nice misting.  When I did the rlm74 it was watery and not very nice, it splattered pretty badly and I even tried three different mixes with thinner.  Not happy, but with acrylics in 1:72 and with a single action AB I guess it will have to do... Getting closer.

Those large, lengthwise bulges/panels were installed to accomodate the larger wheels that were installed on that particular version.  The 109 had a notoriously weak and tricky landing gear.  As the 109 got heavier with larger and more powerful engines and additional armament was added to deal with Allied bombers, the gear needed to be beefed up to handle load.  

Take a look at say the Bf109G-14.  It has smaller bulges, but was an interim upgrade with bigger wheels.  The one you're building (Bf109G-10?) had even larger wheels, hence the larger bulges over the wings.   

Clearly at this point the small airframe of the Bf109 was past it's prime and all those fixes were more band-aid solutions when a new design was really necessary at that point in the war. 

Ok, i know im being a bit previous here, posting pics b4 youve said its ok, but here goes. I was in my local hobby store and saw this plane. I thought i knew most of the models of 109's but this one was an 'A S' apparantly (Correct me if im wrong) it was just another larger HP version of the DB 605. Its a little strange in the fact it has a rather wierd paint job, camo. (Accurate, according to box art and Instructions apparantly) It doesnt have canon 'Beules' and it has 2 rather strange wing covers. Ive got to do a little more research on this model as its quite intriguing (To me anyway lol). Anyways heres some pics.

ps Carpet monster ate the pilots armour. Grrrrrr. Perhaps the pilot removed it to see better lol. And no matter how hard i tried i couldnt stop the decals from silvering.

All opinions gratefully recieved.

...Guy

Very nice looking early 109. Youve got that looking perfect scott. Top marks.

Ps.... I know i didnt enter it in the GB but ive got a 1/72 109 G10as...Could i enter that as a 2nd model?.

Heres a piccy or 2 of the Cockpit.

...Guy

Awesome Tony, I'm glad you were able to make it happen! 

Mottling intimidated the heck out of me, until I finally bit the bullet and just experiemented.  Looking forward to seeing your pics. 

Hey guys, just in case any of you are interested, here is a 1/48 Classic Airframes Bf109D that I completed two weeks ago.  I did mine with Condor Legion markings, as a plane flown by Werner Molders during the Spanish Civil War.  It was a challenging kit, loaded with tricky resin and PE parts.  It was a great learning experience, but it pushed the limits of my skills to the max!

Is next Academy in 1:72 "yellow one"

If you have a decent double action air brush, try free handing it.  Here is what seems to work best for me:

• Use highly thinned paint
• Get in really close with the airbrush
• Keep the airbrush moving at all times, even when paint isn't actually coming out
• While you're moving it around gently and quickly pull the trigger back ever so slightly, then rock it forward again as a bit of paint hits the surface of the kit.  This will give you light, gentle and random mottle patterns.

The key is thinned paint and gentle rocking of the trigger.  If you pull back too far, you're going to get a blotch.  If you don't keep the airbrush moving, all your mottles will have the same, circular appearance and you run the risk of paint building up in one spot way too quickly, thus creating runs and other issues. 

Experiment with that techique on some scrap or even using a blank sheet of paper until you feel comfortable and in control of the technique.  Experiment with the thinning ratios as well to help maximize the softness and subtleties of the mottling you're trying to replicate.

I hope that helps. 

Looking for tips. I was thinking about a mask using card stock or even masking tape with the pattern cut out, but that would take four years, seven months, thirteen days, and six hours. I'm not willing to invest quite that much time.

Tony

TGregory wrote:

Thank you, do you know where I can find information on stipple or mottle?

Are you looking for different schemes or tips?

Good news, the tape worked well. Now I need to try the stipple pattern, and I have to get the sticky off the canopy. Here's what I have so far.

back to the grind.

Masking tapes tend to be a bit too sticky.  I'll use masking tape to mask large areas, but I stick it on my shirt a few times and lift it off to get lint on it to tone down the stickiness.  Clearly you wouldn't do that when you're masking an edge say on a splinter scheme as the lint will encourage paint to suck up under it.  But it does work great if I'm just trying to covor large areas so I can spray a tail piece, or nose.

Tamiya tape works great as it's just tacky enough to get the job done, without damaging the underlying paint. 

Tony-

Looking good!  We'll keep our fingers crossed that none of the paint will lift.  Have you ever tried using Tamiya tape?  I used to use the blue painters tape, but after some paint lifting problems, I switched over to the Tamiya stuff.  Have not had a single problem with it.

The Bf109e is coming along it is in the painting stages, I hopethe masking tape doesn't pull up any paint.

OK , next one , is hart yellow 1 , i dont like "mottles"

Ready to painting...

 Finish 1 lest 5 :)

To see more photo please go to my gallery , link

 I don't finish today

Thank , i have 5 bf-109 to finisch. I working hart.

Rafhart-

Looking good!  Nice job with the markings, look spot on!  Glad to see this GB is still alive.

 Co jest tylko ja składam ???

Guys to work !!!!

I go to work....

 G-14 Hartman's  painting

 I have foto G-14 but 1:72 is to smoll to perfekt painting.

Scott-

Thanks!  Being able to inspire someone to try something different has got to be about the best compliment one could get- I really appreciate it!

When you do build it, be sure to post pics!

Jay-

Thanks!  I have thought about another one, just have to finish up the started kits first!

Guy-

That is an AWESOME looking '109!  I can't believe how fast you finished that one up.  As for criticism, I seriously cannot find one thing I would do differently.  You should be very proud, now we can wear our GB badges with pride!

Hi Espins, it was a watercolour wash, i think Dark Umber. There was nothing technical about it. It was a small squirt of the umber (About 10mm long) and diluted about 20:1 with water. Then a big squirt of something SWMBOd's keeps under the sink. Dishwasher detergent i think. Using a very fine brush you can keep the overspill of the wash to a minimum. Clean off any overspill with lots of cotton buds.

...Guy

Hi All, its finished.It seems that the last finishing touches took forever. Had a mare with the rear cockpit and superglue. I didnt go too mad on the weathering as this is a plane that was in the desert. Just a slight toning down of the base colours with some light pastels and a light wash. Really enjoyed the build apart from the cockpit issue and a tailwheel that broke off lol. (That will be sorted when the correct shaped one arrives from Hannants) All comments seroiusly appreciated. If you would have done something differently, i want to know. Its the only way to improve. Thanks...Guy

P.s Can i put my Group Build logo up now?

I agree, fantastic job. Have to admit, i was a little bit concerned about the sand colour looking a little too orange but it must have been the lighting cos it looks the dogs bo****ks now. Well done indeed..Awesome

...Guy

I finished it!  Here are a few pics:

Wow, great looking office Luft. Howd ya do that

Steve

Guy-

Thanks a bunch!  I really like the job you did on the office, it looks AWESOME! 

Great job Daywalker, looks the biz.

Ive managed to get a couple of pics of the office on mine tonight. Its all coming along great. Probably paint the underside tonight and do a few fiddly bits. Not long now before decals..OOhh i cant wait..Am i too eager?????? lol...Guy

Jay-

Thanks!  Tonight, I sprayed the tires/wheels and also a light dusting overcoat for that dry, faded look.  Should have her done in a week or so.

Daywalker wrote:

Thanks!  I just received a first for me today- a resin, photoetch, and styrene major conversion set to turn a TA-152H into the ultra rare TA-152C-0.  Will be cool when it's done, but looks to be a huge undertaking.

That should be a cool build, just take it one bite at a time. 

Daywalker wrote:

Scott- Thanks for the compliment!  I was scared to try it, but finally decided that "no guts, no glory", so I took the plunge.

That's been my philosphy lately as well, been learning how to work with resin and photo etch.  That's the only way to learn new tricks, just dive in and give it your best shot!  You did good! 

Scott-

Thanks for the compliment!  I was scared to try it, but finally decided that "no guts, no glory", so I took the plunge.

So here are some pics of my two bf109s, proof I am slowly making headway!

Well, got the last of the decals on this morning.  The box decals were quite thick, but I tried a technique with 'em and it seemed to work out.

Hi All, My G4. Yes a G4 (Ive decided at last lol) is coming on. Cockpit is in, fuze is together. Coming along swimmingly.

...Guy

Work in progress , AML is no good , FM is the best , Academy is medium model kit.

Daywalker wrote:

Thanks Rudy, glad to have you back. BTW, did you ever receive that P-47 gear and wheels I sent you?

Nup, I don't see anything. Never got the gear. My P-47 seems DOOMED.

Heres a few pics of the cockpit of my, as yet, lol unspecified Gustav

Itl probably end up being a G4 or a G6. Who knows what designation the G had with Late wheels and no breech bulges in the engine cowling. If they do...Thats the one im building lol

...Guy

Thanks Rudy, glad to have you back.

BTW, did you ever receive that P-47 gear and wheels I sent you?

jboutin wrote:

Tgregory and Daywalker, give the guy a break! Rudy's a student with tons of work to do, ever been in that situation?  Real life also tends to get in the way of modeling too. Be patient, he has apologised for not updating the new comers and gave his reasons.  I'm sure you can start your 109s and carry on even though your name isn't on the first page yet.

jay, thanks for sticking up for me, but it's my fault, not the homework's, that I'm not posting as often as I used to. It's just that this DS is so enticing...................

I'll get the list updated ASAP. Sorry!!!!!!

I painted the spots today.  It's my first attempt with my new Badger 100, but I am happy with them.

Hi All,

Is it ok for me to join the build? I have a  1/32 ex-Hasa Gustav on the go. This will be my 1st online build if i can join

Cheers...Guy 

Arrrrrrgh!!!!!

Attack of the carpet monster!!

My Emil's canopy has vanished into the netherworld of carpet fibers.

 I'll probably find it in a week or so when I step on it, or if the dog pukes it up later tonight..

Grrrrrrr......

Oh well time to put together an order to Squadron.

Painted the sand color today, here is where she's at:

Next up, the olive green spots.  Today was the first day I got to use my new Badger double action 'brush, so I am still learning with it.  I will probably take a few days to practice before I try to freehand the green.

Thanks for the kind words!  I really had my fingers crossed for the spinner, hoping it would turn out as well as it did.

As for the shading, I actually prefer to use post-shading on my aircraft.  After giving it a base coat, I mixed an ever-so-slightly darker mixture and lightly followed the panel lines, then mixed a lighter version of the base color and sprayed that in the open areas between the panel lines.  Then, one more heavily thinned coat of the base color to blend it all in.  A lot of work, but I think it really stands out.

Was asking myself the same thing about the preshade.

Its so subtle that I was wondering if it was a trick of the camera.

Looks nice, and the spinner is sweet!

Alright, I'm gonna post pics of my '109 hoping that's OK.  It's a Tamiya 1/48 109E-4 Trop done with kit decals (Black 8), mostly OOB with a resin seat.  I started the painting yesterday, and finished the lt. blue and the spinner.  Here is where she's at:

Tgregory and Daywalker, give the guy a break! Rudy's a student with tons of work to do, ever been in that situation?  Real life also tends to get in the way of modeling too. Be patient, he has apologised for not updating the new comers and gave his reasons.  I'm sure you can start your 109s and carry on even though your name isn't on the first page yet. 

BTW, I finally have some progress pics.  These were taken two weeks ago and the builds haven't progressed any further as I am trying to complete a Spitfire mk9.  Enjoy!  The one with the resin tail is a Bf-109 G6 and the other a Bf-109 B2.  The G will be as one of Hartmans and the B as a Spanish Civil War Condor Legion bird.  Enjoy!

PanzerWulff wrote:

Charlie is that the Academy 1/48 Ha1112??? I have one in my stash yours looks really sharp

Thanks!

Yup, that is the academy/hobbycraft kit. Nice kit, goes together well. The only tricky area is the wing cannons. A little filler (mainly under the nose), but all and all it goes together pretty well. A bit sparten in the cockpit (not really an issue for me). I've got 3 more in the closet. Plan to build one in the silver over azure scheme, one camo scheme, and one in "Battle of Britain" markings.

Charlie 

Here's my current in progress Ha-1112 Buchon. ALmost finished this one over the weekend. If I can squeeze in an hour or two during the week, I'll wrap this one up.

Charlie

Hey there.......

Was wondering if I could join in the fun.

Got a really ancient (from 1988) Hasegawa Emil-3 that I'd like to see put together.

Im not a big expert on German fighters, but it looks like a sweet little kit. (if a bit old)

Next academy in building.

rudy_102 wrote:

Sorry for the lack of updates! Schoolwork by the crapload, just finished for today. Everyone, I gotta catch up on the herd of new joiners I see on the horizon. Panzer, watch out for the online grammar translation. I don't get your Polish.

Sorry for the lack of updates! Schoolwork by the crapload, just finished for today.

Everyone, I gotta catch up on the herd of new joiners I see on the horizon. Panzer, watch out for the online grammar translation. I don't get your Polish.

Can I jump in with a Ha-1112? I'm a bit new to these boards. I have one that's inprogress, I started back in december and is about 95% finished, and a S-199 in the early stages.

Let me know, and I'll post some pics.

Charlie

Looking good Rafhart.

Progress! (but no pics yet, I'l post them soon) For both 109s I have the cp in and fuse together.  Wings and tails will be going on this week and who knows, maybe some paint too?  I used to not really build 1:72 but lately have really enjoyed that scale as you can bang off a couple builds quickly.

My six bf-109

Rudy-

Am I in?  Just wanted to make sure before I posted any pics.

MUAHAHAHAHA I couldent resist and went on a building Binge on my G-10 as my patch came off wednsday after my eye surgeon said my eye had healed enough to do without it.Things are still a bit blurry but not so much as to hamper my work.So without further Ado THE PICTURES!!!

"Panzerwulff the plastic Pirate rides again!!!"ARRRRRR!

thanks rudy

Rafhart wrote:

Yes is Polish , but i wont write english.

Np my friend I have a translator for that

Dobre szczęście wy *rafhart* JA nie może czekać widzieć większa ilość

I did some minor assembily today (Nothing detailed yet) I was fiending to build SOMETHING.I'm starting to recognize shapes and forms with my healing eye so hopefully I can get more done soon

PS Rafhart Beautiful 109 you got there I cant wait to see the next one.by the way what language do you speak so i can run it through the correct translation program I think it's polish but I want to be sure

"Panzer"

Nie ma problemu , a więc mam do zrobienia sześć modeli , 1 x AML , 1 x  Fine models , i 4 x Academy. Wszystkie w malowaniu Hartmann-a. Mam również kalki 4 malowania E.H.

Daje sobie czas jakieś , 6 miesięcy.

Rudy napisz co lubisz składać.

Musze podszkolić mój Angielski.

I start the work , I must end maximum in six month 

Rudy since you say I can combine this with other GBs, I also have a Bf-109b1 (1:72) from Heller that I'm doing for the Spanish Civil War GB. 

Hmm double the fun!  Last year around this time too, I did two Fw-190d9's at the same time and it was great fun. One was for the Langnase GB (1:72 Hasegawa kit) and the other for the Battle for Germany GB (1:72 Airfix Kit).  I think I'll do the double build again, this time with my Bf-109s.

I like "109" , I started work ( sorry my english is not good)

My old bf-109 from ICM 1:72.

Rafhart, az tak duzo? Atak clonow!

Welcome to the GB, Rafhart & Panzer! I'll have you guys (was about to write guts) listed.

Gemini, what you do is right-click on the badge, then click "Copy Shortcut". You then go to "Update Profile" and paste it in your signature. Be sure that [ IMG ] is in front and [ /IMG ] in the back (without spaces, because then you'ld see this in my post: ). 

Hey Rudy Panzer here I had my eye surgery and am now on the mend so Sign me up with a Revell Germany Me-109 G10 in 1/48th scale

"Panzer" ARRRRRRR

Rudy 102 brzmi znajomo , czekaj czekaj.....

Welcome , i wont bulding 6 x 109 Harmann painting. In 1:72 scale

I wont join , do you mind?

You can count me in. I will be building the 1/72nd scale AML K-4 this spring.

Thanks for the invitation!

Jacob Russell

Hey Rudy,  told you I was very busy with a lot going on. Here is where the 109e is. Finally got the fuselage together with the office and engine finished. No Am at all on this one but I have to come up with belts for the seat. The engine I did take some artistic licence and put my own wiring here and there and also put some colour into it to break up the dark colours. Hope you guys like it.

I cut off all the controle surfaces to reposition them but now I have to figure out how to fill the gaps and give them some support. The oil coolers will also be a big problem as they will all have to be cut off and rebuilt. Loads of sheet styreen in my future. Any suggestions.

Steve.

Hi Rudy,  If there is no time limit on this GB then I would like to join with a 109E-3. I just started a 1/32 Hasegawa a couple of weeks ago and have just finished the office and engine.

Steve.

No limit whatsoever!!!! All my GB's are open-ended (another reason for their large number), so welcome aboard!!!!!!

Is there a time limit on this build? If not count me in.  I tend to build them prettty slow.

Hasegawa 1/48 bf109G-10

I do it because I have so many builds going on, and I like to wear badges. Hope that clears it enough.

I'll update the list.

And matt, I assume yours is in 72 also?

Will7813 wrote:

Jeeez Rudy, how do you get time to do all of these GB's??? Will

Jeeez Rudy, how do you get time to do all of these GB's???

Will

I'll join. I've got a 1/72 kit and extras that I'm going to start on soon. I'll post more details when I get back home.

Joshua