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Posted by bondoman on Friday, June 5, 2009 10:05 PM

Hat's off to the Admiral. I get the scheme- measure 99 when seen from the side it has the aspect of a Douglas B-18, what fly's even slower than a Fortress 2, so you'd miss her aft.

Nicely done, and those ones that start white don't end white often, grubby mitts and all. First in the CC build tho damn yer eyes, beggin the pardon of your Scrambledegginess, I've ordered (hold yer breth, and please do!), gun barrels by the score for the various kites on the, um, in the box.

Here's the Captains log of the last 24.

Miss Bondo in full regalia, with her superior officer and his superior.

Miss Bondo receives her commission from Marin Catholic High School.

Proud father and fine daughter.

Time for RUM!!!

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Posted by Daywalker on Friday, June 5, 2009 9:02 PM

Well said CAG! Approve [^]

I shall take a few moments to think of them, and take an extra minute to enjoy the freedom their sacrifice guaranteed.  

John- Excellent work Sir! Thumbs Up [tup] 

Frank 

 

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Posted by jeaton01 on Friday, June 5, 2009 6:48 PM

Just in time fer the earnin' of the Admiral's double rations, especially also hopin'that scurvy Bondoman indeed did blast the sausage maker, here are pictures to show the Coastal Command is alive and well in the whist of a B-17E newly smeared wit da colors of the day, Extra Dark Sea Gray, Dark Slate Gray, and I suspect nolongeravirgin flat white.  She do look most fetching in these colors, all in the Admiral's stateroom do think.   Decals soon to follow, now that the search party has found them again after a three hour scourge of all the realm.

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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Posted by bondoman on Friday, June 5, 2009 6:38 PM

Yessir CAG In fact it's my father's birthday. He woke up on 6/6/44 and all the church bells in town were ringing.

We have a new man, Mike to welcome aboard, sir. He seems a bit...um...sober, not that there's innithin wrong with that, yer holiness, but he's been invited to toss his bag in the vacant berth of Nam, pending that worthies return from Port-of-Spain or were e'r that pirat be off to. Hope he don't mind the bugs, and the crew will get him a mug and we're hopin' yer excellency will afford us a cask this latter dog watch. I've invited the worthy mac for a claret and a pipe, might be a good evening  to have a mojito or two. Main vittles a little smoked sausage, if'n I can pot the little basterd wit' my blunderbus! Bondoslide show of this weeks festies to follow for the few what might care. No viddies tonight tho.

 

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Posted by sfcmac on Friday, June 5, 2009 5:33 PM
The CAG is present!  Yes sir!  I always have time to think about them. Make a Toast [#toast]
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Posted by TANGO 1 on Friday, June 5, 2009 5:07 PM

Hello lads,

sorry for my absence, HM Service is keeping me busy.Captain [4:-)]

As most of you know I recently spent some time in Normandy paying my respects to the fallen. Tomorrow is the 65th anniversary of the D-Day landings and I would like all of you here to spare a thought for those who have given so much for the freedoms we enjoy today.

Thank you.

D-DAY 6.6.44

 

Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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Posted by sfcmac on Friday, June 5, 2009 4:45 PM

http://www.greatmodels.com/~smartcart/cgi/display.cgi?item_num=QUB72017

 Looking at the above link these all have to be special ordered.  BUT good ol E-bay has the best price on them in 1/72!  Also there are 2 types. Oval perforation and round?  Looking at that in 1/72 scale must be a rivit counters dream though?

I'd go with these Bondo!  Have 10 sets available.

 http://cgi.ebay.com/QUB72021-Lancaster-Gun-Barrels-Oval-Perforation-1-72-Qu_W0QQitemZ270370368851QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3ef3546d53&_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116

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Posted by bondoman on Friday, June 5, 2009 2:47 PM

Nicely done LtCmr, nicely done. Break out a clean shirt and be the guest of the Captain tonight in the CAGs dining room, the toft is off with the nurses again, however the XO may show his head. I've got a few rarish treats to share. 6 hours to... RUM!! Tonight the orders are for Mojitos! A research question, and well answered to the challenge of building a super turret, reckon I owe a response, Sir, I need those barrels (8) in 1/72. Source?

Happy Friday, gentlemen.

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Posted by sfcmac on Friday, June 5, 2009 1:24 PM

Look what I found! Yippie! Should round out the World War II FAA Aircraft builds I am doing very nicely. Was my missing link!

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Posted by Daywalker on Friday, June 5, 2009 7:17 AM

Thanks fellas!  Glad you like her so far. 

Aaron- Limited bench time is not slowing you down any! Looking good, almost there! Big Smile [:D]

For the light panel lines, I used ProModeller "light dirt" wash. I love working with that stuff, very easy to use and the effects show up well.  Thumbs Up [tup]

Frank 

 

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Posted by simpilot34 on Friday, June 5, 2009 6:13 AM

Frank, outstanding work mate!!!! Taking on her own personality now and looking the part!!!!!!!!Thumbs Up [tup]Bow [bow]

Aaron the turret looks great!!!!! Nice work on the ammo belts!!!!!! I can tell you why Bruno follows Dee all over, when you come that close to death you tend to be VERY gracious to your saviour!!!!!!!!Angel [angel]

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by sfcmac on Friday, June 5, 2009 3:11 AM

 Frank that Corsair is turning out to be something really special and unique!Bow [bow]

 How exactly did you bring out the panel lines with that light color? Just a wash of deck tan or something?  You got mad skills! You know chicks dig guys with skills! Wink [;)]

 Unfortunately my workload and long hours have really limited my bench time. I have spent the last few days stealing what moments I can to work on the Roc's turret.

 To me it is what really grabs you about this aircraft so I wanted to put a lot of effort and imagination into it.

Show again the resin copies I made from the Quickboost 1/48 Lancaster barrels. I used the Quickboost barrels as a tip from Ian Lanc on my Halifax and fell in love with them. So the look went from the barrels above to this.

The golden wings were and afterthought. The guns were belt fed so I made ammo belts simply by cutting two like strips from old used decal backing and painted them gold. Whem dry I simply drew lines with a pencil to replicate some detail and a hap hazard blaclk strip to represent links.

I had also modified ( mutiated may be a better word) a crew man to fit in the gunners seat.

 I cut out and remade the gunsight mechanism and added some PE details, This allows you to see his face instead of a solid resin piece with a silver painted window.

The copied barrels turned out well. The muzzle flash suppressors and preforated holes in the barrel are all there. Even the screw/nut to hold on the suppresors. Thumbs Up [tup] This made a huge diff in the turret detail and appearance to me.

 Kinda reminded me of making a ship in a bottle a few times but I think it turned out much better than the kit parts had represented.  Just needed a little love. Kinda like him.

Dee named him Bruno ! Gotta ask her why she picked that name Dave? I dunno but they have been inseparatable all week. Thing follows her everywhere! Laugh [(-D]Pirate [oX)]

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Posted by lewbud on Friday, June 5, 2009 2:39 AM
 Daywalker wrote:

A bit more progress on the night fighter...

Spent some time today painting lenses, installing the flaps, cowl, etc.  I also installed other fiddly bits like the pitot tube and exhausts.  Here's how she looks! Big Smile [:D]

 

Richie,

Looking good.

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, June 4, 2009 11:53 PM

A bit more progress on the night fighter...

Spent some time today painting lenses, installing the flaps, cowl, etc.  I also installed other fiddly bits like the pitot tube and exhausts.  Here's how she looks! Big Smile [:D]

 

Frank 

 

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Posted by Spike190 on Thursday, June 4, 2009 6:11 PM

Hi guys,

Thanks for the warm welcome, I can see its gonna take me a while to figure out who's who about here, bit like a first day at a new school Confused [%-)]. Anyway I got my paints ordered today so soon be up and running.

Cheers fella's and thanks again.Big Smile [:D]

Mike  Toast

 

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Posted by simpilot34 on Thursday, June 4, 2009 2:29 AM

Sign - Welcome [#welcome]aboard Mike!!!!!!! Your planned build sounds like a treat!!!!!!!

Brian, Frank, Dave, Thank you very much!!! Yes, almost there finally!!!!!!Big Smile [:D]

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by razordws on Wednesday, June 3, 2009 11:53 PM

Aaron, Ritchie, you guys are carrying the group here.  Keep up the good work and keep the pics coming! Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Mike Welcome aboard.

As for Bruno, I can see right through the Scalywag Aaron's plan.  Probably has him trained to sniff out the rum rations and to hound the crew when he's slumped over his post.  There will be no rest for the crew I says with that mutt aboard.  Grumpy [|(]

Dave

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Posted by Daywalker on Wednesday, June 3, 2009 11:21 PM

Aaron- Nicely done, and I am glad you are enjoying your stands!  BTW, the check you sent for them bounced, so I hope you will send another one! Whistling [:-^]

Richie- Excellent work on the fish!  Looks like you are on the home stretch now. Big Smile [:D]

Mike- Sign - Welcome [#welcome] to the GB!  I see the lads have been helping you get aclimated. Approve [^]

Frank 

 

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Posted by lewbud on Wednesday, June 3, 2009 8:54 PM

 Spike190 wrote:
Hi everyone,
Is there a closing date for entering this build or can I sign up? Ive got the Eduard FAA Hellcat, just need to order a few paints then I can get going on it in a few weeks. Ive not been back in the hobby long but really fancy doing a couple of group builds.
Cheers...

Welcome aboard Mike!  This build is the party that never ends, thus making it the best of the bunch.  Like Brian said, watch your mug around Bondo, you're lucky if sump pump oil is the worst you get!  CAG, aka TANGO 1, runs a fair ship here so pull up a stool and start cutting plastic when you get a chance.  Oh and watch your ankles, it seems the ship has a new mascot, didn't know Datsun made dogs-you learn something new every day.  It's supposed to bunk with Mac, but he's usually passed out at his post mumbling something about the Capn's daughter and he/she/it has a knack for slippin its noose.  Have we named the mascot yet Aaron?  Oh and post lots of pics of your builds, it keeps the crew happy.

EDIT: I guess I should've read all of Mac's last post.  It seems the weiner dog is named Bruno, and a good looking hound he is.

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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Posted by New Hampshire on Wednesday, June 3, 2009 8:08 PM

Richie and Aaron.....you guys are amazing brothers!  That is some superior work you have going on!

I too have been slowly plugging away.  I have not posted any pictures because I am at the tedious stage of doing little odds and ends.  Not much visually changing, but once the paint starts flying I will let the pictures rip!

Spike190, welcome aboard matey!  Captain Bond shal present ye to our fearless leader, the benevolent CAG of this motley crew!  Ye shall be issued a mug and yer ration o' rum, but be sure not to accept anything from Capt. Bondo lest ye see him pour it with yer own eyes...he be known to mix a bit o' the "cheap stuff" (a.k.a sump pump oil) with the rum rations! Big Smile [:D]

Brian

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Posted by Spike190 on Wednesday, June 3, 2009 2:38 PM
Hi everyone,
Is there a closing date for entering this build or can I sign up? Ive got the Eduard FAA Hellcat, just need to order a few paints then I can get going on it in a few weeks. Ive not been back in the hobby long but really fancy doing a couple of group builds.
Cheers...

Mike  Toast

 

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Posted by simpilot34 on Wednesday, June 3, 2009 5:19 AM

AWWWW Great dogs they are!!!!!! Aaron i am so glad I could help with just that one pic!!!!!!!!! Thank you for your comments as well!!!! The twins are coming along beautifully and starting to take on their own look!!!! GREAT STUFF!!!!

John, Thank you as well!!!! Have to add a bit of weight to the wheels as well to look really convincing!!! Thanks for looking!!!

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by sfcmac on Tuesday, June 2, 2009 7:33 PM

      Ritchie! Most excellent work on your Swordfish!  You have inspired me to build a Swordfish now as well!  Very cool! Indeed! I always wonder about the different color Warhead noses on the British fish.  All the Albacore pics show yellow noses and in a few museum pics I have seen red nosed fish like yours and white as well.  Then the Tamiya Swordfish instructions claim the whole thing was semi-gloss black.  I dunno probably a manufacture thing as I know early British Bombs were yellow then later dark green and even black. 

 What ever the case I like the look of yours! Thumbs Up [tup]

Have done a lot again. Been fixing the computer and working too much as usual. But I do try to do at least a little each day so let me show what I have so far.

 Been working on the turret and replaced the solid bicycle horn looking intakes inside the cowling with some shaped brass tubing as planned.

The Gun barrels look out of scale. About the size of my 1/35 20mm barrels.  So the plan was to replace them with the Quick Boost resin ones which are just too cool. They are getting hard to get and cost about a buck a barrel though so I used my Two part mold putty and Aluminite resin and made a quick copy.  The whole process took only 20 minutes to get this as a first try.

 

While they are not as crisp as the original they are pretty good and a giant improvement over the ones that look more like hydralic pump levers to me.

Now I need to focus on doing some good painting and weathering. So I ask the XO for some tips.  He was kind enough to sell me the Mark 3 Styro -stick stand for $397.02.  A bit steep so I got the deal 2 for $597.12 Shock [:O] Thanks Frank! Dead [xx(]

 Also played with the cowling color. Seems that these were not copper.  More of a tinish Brassy color. Mixed and mixed somemore until I came up with a color that looked close. Gold , steel, exhaust smoke and some Panzer red brown.

 The new intakes are not so visable as I had hoped so I'll borrow Ritchies great pic again.

 They really show up good here and I think some siver caps will do the trick and be accurate.

Another great thing about this photo is the details!  You can see the crews and uniforms.  The Poor cramped up gunner even.  Great things like the different Uniform colors. Some dark brown and the Pilot in the British blue jacket at least shows up well!  Thanks again Ritchie! These are just some of the details I can add because of your help! Thumbs Up [tup]

Lewbud you are right on the money about both these being pretty much the same airframe.  They look very alike aside from the Roc's turret.  There are a lot of other less noticeable diffs too.  The Wings are completed different. The Skua had narrow wings with upward slanted tips to control a bad tendancy to spin when maneuvering. The Roc which was designed later has larger eliptical wings of a slightly larger span and redesign.  There were internal diffs I discoverd such as the large twin tanks of the Skua were replaced by a single larger tank ( with less fuel capacity) to give some room for the turret.  Had to fix that as well. The kit had the same set up for both and the result was the turret didn't fit.

 I love learning about these birds as I go along even If it means I have to back track a bit.

On a personal note. We have a new member of the family in the McNeal household. A full breed Datsun that Dee has named Bruno!  Saved from the death chamber at the dog pond I wonder if you could really call him lucky with Master Dee and her cookie fits! Black Eye [B)]

 Yep she has him in an old play pin. Laugh [(-D] What a little fireball!   See Y'all later and good building!  Bow [bow]Thumbs Up [tup]Make a Toast [#toast]Pirate [oX)]

 

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Posted by jeaton01 on Tuesday, June 2, 2009 6:00 PM

Richie, are you sure that torp isn't too heavy?  I tooks like the upper wing is bending from the weight!

The Stringbag is looking the part, though, you have the Admiralty's blessing and all the weight that implies.  Good work.  Look out, Bismark rudders!

The Admiralty is making progress, but I have lately become aware of two trooths.  One, it is just about the same work to build a 1/72 4 engine bomber as it is a 1/48 scale bomber.  Two, these Coastal Command schemes require many rolls of masking tape.  Woof.  More Hair of the Dog needed here, and it's nowhere near time for the extra rations.

John

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Posted by simpilot34 on Tuesday, June 2, 2009 2:57 PM
Thank You Chester and Buddy!!!!! YES Buddy, it is 1/72!!!!!! I have the Fulmar kit you mentioned andit seems to be very nice!!!! Thanks for looking and will look at Scalefest pics when I get home from work! I owe, I owe, so off to work I go...Whistling [:-^]
Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by lewbud on Tuesday, June 2, 2009 11:10 AM

Aaron,

Looking forward to seeing the twins done.  Are they basically the same airframe as I see a lot of similarities between the two.

Richie,

Outstanding!  You're building Divine Scale (1/72) aren't you?

This weekend was Scalefest weekend here in the Dallas/Fort Worth area.  Friday was spent wandering the warehouse at Squadron and then going to work.  Saturday was spent at the contest.  Sunday was spent at work and then recovering from Friday and Saturday.  Did add a few kits for this build to the collection.  Picked up a Special Hobby Hawker Sea Hawk and an Airfix Fairey Fulmar, both in Divine Scale of course.  Was tempted by the Special Hobby Sea Vixen, but the price knocked it out of contention.  Saw a Sea Vixen at the contest Saturday, but it was a High Planes kit and I've sworn off them for a while.  Pics from the contest can be found at http://public.fotki.com/lewbud/scalefest-2009/

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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Posted by chester101 on Tuesday, June 2, 2009 10:34 AM
Wow, great job Richie.
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Posted by simpilot34 on Tuesday, June 2, 2009 9:57 AM

THE FISH IS HUNG!!!!! lol sorry am quite happy bout that!!!!Big Smile [:D] Really looks the part now!!! Still a bit to go but I think I'm in the home stretch!!! Here's a few pics and then I'm hittin' the hay!!! Thanks for looking!!!

Enjoy!

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by simpilot34 on Tuesday, June 2, 2009 7:50 AM

Glad I could help Aaron!!!! If you notice in some of the pics, it seems the canopy was an option!!! Some have it, some don't!!!Confused [%-)] Not that that windscreen added to the aerodynamics!!!! lol PM inbound!!

Frank, as usual, SUPERB workmanship!!!!!!!!!!! Looking good!!!!!! Thumbs Up [tup] Funny how they would put an anti-skid strip at the lowest point of the wing!!!Confused [%-)]Wink [;)]

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by sfcmac on Monday, June 1, 2009 9:06 PM

 Frank You are burning thru these builds at a most incredible rate!  WOW!  A 109 and right into a nearly complete F4U!  Amazing!

 Ritchie I have been looking and searching all over for a pic of that Particular aircraft!  Thanks so much as it really shows a lot of stuff I was looking for! 

 Today was a blah day. Thought I was getting home early from work and it ended up being another allnighter. So many of these has left me pretty worn out but I still try to so one or 2 things a day to the kits even if it is small to maintain forward momentum!

 Fixed the intake issue on the engines. Ritchies pic shows them well.  Alo tht is the first rally sharp picture that shows the camo pattern being  bit harder lines and more sharpely rendered on the fuselage at least. You cn really see how these birds got a worn and weathered look!  Up to now these were what I was judgeing the paint look by.

 Pretty faded from what I could tell but not in that last pic.

 Also look at the diff markings and paint standards on the aircraft serving side by side.  The Skua pics are much the same as each aircraft clearly has unique details to see.

 The big spine on the back scared me.  Looking at some pics it had a totally different shape some sloped into the turret at an angle and others looked like my kit.  Turns out this was positionable in order to let the turret spin and track better. So it could be a different shape depending on turret position.   I was really thinking it didn't make sense but it has a combat overide.  Why such an elaborate get up?  I dunno must be for drag like the Admiral said.

  I like the Bloody Useless comment and after some looking found a great link to give a fair shake to these kits.  The Performance of an emergency speed of 223 MPH max for short burst really was the killer I think. The Roc was made by Boulten who basically got forced into making it alongside the Defiant which was 100 MPH faster , The Creation of the Roc seemed to be one of politacal pressure rather than practicality.

Thanks for the comments and such!  I'll get more pics soon as thing progress a bit more! Here are some col links that give history Stats and combat accounts of these FAA fighters. Interesting reading.

http://freespace.virgin.net/john.dell/blackburn_roc.htm

http://www.rcaf.com/aircraft/fighters/roc/index.php?name=Blackburn%20Roc

Make a Toast [#toast]Pirate [oX)]Bow [bow]

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