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tigerman

Member since
March 2003
From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA

Posted by tigerman on Sunday, November 16, 2003 1:01 PM

Yeah Jon, they did come with cardboard backing, but they are so frail, they may have become a little damaged in transit. I agree Chris, they should have packed them better, maybe putting cardboard on both sides of the fret.

Those first two photos are exactly what I was saying about the sag touching the second roadwheel (maybe should have said first outside wheel, hard to tell if its touching, but close)

"It is well that war is so terrible, lest we grow too fond of it."-R.E.Lee

Eric

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 16, 2003 10:23 AM

heres the diferent track sags
the first one is on a Panther D

the second is on a Panther G steel wheel

the third is a Panther G at Aberdeen as in Muzzelflashes photo (rusted tracks)

but the Forth picture is of a Panther G that was captured and used by the British, it must be moving or on rough ground becouse the tracks are toutching the last wheel only

so in the end its up to you what you want the tracks to look like, i will just look at a photo i like and copy it

all the photos are from http://www.achtungpanzer.com/pz4.htm#panther

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J-Hulk

Member since
February 2003
From: Tochigi, Japan

Posted by J-Hulk on Sunday, November 16, 2003 9:20 AM

Tigerman, I can't remember where, but I've read that the tracks are supposed to finally touch down on the fourth set of road wheels (which would be the second set of outside wheels).

Oh, and thanks to all for letting us non-1/35 Panther modelers join in!

~Brian

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lizardqing

Member since
July 2003
From: Dahlonega, Georgia

Posted by lizardqing on Saturday, November 15, 2003 6:41 PM

Mine were packed with a cardboard backing in a ziplock style bag but were still damaged.

Chris The Scale Firehouse The Lizard's Workshop

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 15, 2003 5:42 PM

Did you PE sets come in a bag with a card backing???

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lizardqing

Member since
July 2003
From: Dahlonega, Georgia

Posted by lizardqing on Saturday, November 15, 2003 5:24 PM

Tigerman- Sounds like Tamiya should have packed the pe in the box a little better.

Chris The Scale Firehouse The Lizard's Workshop

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tigerman

Member since
March 2003
From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA

Posted by tigerman on Saturday, November 15, 2003 5:08 PM

Great deal Chris, looks like we will be building the same kit. I don't have a lot of experience either with p/e, but it should be interesting. Mine got a little tweaked during delivery also.

"It is well that war is so terrible, lest we grow too fond of it."-R.E.Lee

Eric

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lizardqing

Member since
July 2003
From: Dahlonega, Georgia

Posted by lizardqing on Saturday, November 15, 2003 5:02 PM

I got my kit in the mail yesterday. Tamiya Panther G late with pe zim.Only thing I have really noticed so far is that one end of the pe looks like it got slammed intot he end of the box or something. Best I can tell none of the pieces are to bad off but I've never messed with pe before. Other than that looks like a good deal for $25.

Chris The Scale Firehouse The Lizard's Workshop

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tigerman

Member since
March 2003
From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA

Posted by tigerman on Saturday, November 15, 2003 4:54 PM

The sag doesn't look natural, too taught. The track should be touching the second roadwheel. I checked a few of my references to verify this.

Frosty go for the Ersatz, that would be cool. Cool [8D]

"It is well that the war is so terrible, lest we grow too fond of it."-R.E.Lee

Eric

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 15, 2003 4:10 PM

i thing the tracks on the Photo are rusted together its been out there for 40+ years
nice piccy though

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 15, 2003 2:10 PM

i'll also say if its panther related its fine with me , the more the merrier

nice pic muzzleflash , you don't happen to have one of the inside edge of the track do you?

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tigerman

Member since
March 2003
From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA

Posted by tigerman on Saturday, November 15, 2003 11:14 AM

Nice pic muzzle, doesn't seem like enough sag though, does it?

"It is well that war is so terrible, lest we grow too fond of it."-R.E.Lee

Eric

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 15, 2003 2:04 AM

I have not started yet either. Smile [:)]

As far as the tracks,pins,sag......here's a pic for reference:

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tigerman

Member since
March 2003
From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA

Posted by tigerman on Friday, November 14, 2003 6:48 PM

As long as it is Panther related, anything goes. Why not? We have bent the rules a bit, but we will become more knowlegable on the entire Panther family this way. Thumbs Up [tup]

Glad to have Frosty and Brian join our Panther party. Sign - Welcome [#welcome]

"It is well that war is so terrible, lest we grow too fond of it."-R.E.Lee

Eric

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wipw

Member since
January 2003
From: Utah - USA

Posted by wipw on Friday, November 14, 2003 5:15 PM

QUOTE: i got the idea from the Armor Conversions book and was thinking that it might be fun to try in 1/72 instead !

Frosty,

What book is it to which you're refering?? Where did you find it? It sounds interesting!

Thanks

Bill

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 14, 2003 2:19 PM

QUOTE:
LOL !!!
say, how can u tell if a bucket of bolts is complete or not ?
frosty

Good one LOL.

The Ersatz M-10 would be cool, I don't think anyone else was gonna try it.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 14, 2003 1:53 PM

thanx, bill !
and as for being finished before the rest of the gang, i'm not so sure...
if i do an ersatz M10 (hey, it's still a panther under there, rite ?), i'll have to do some scratchbuilding... i got the idea from the Armor Conversions book and was thinking that it might be fun to try in 1/72 instead !
it's going to be really interesting to see what everybody comes up with.
have a good weekend !
frosty Smile [:)]

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wipw

Member since
January 2003
From: Utah - USA

Posted by wipw on Friday, November 14, 2003 1:35 PM

I would personally welcome both Frosty and Brian with open arms. (Frosty's liable to be done a little before any of we are, though. But that's okay.

Bill

Bill ==========================================================

DML M4A2 Red Army ==========================================================

========================================================== -- There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness". (Author unknown)

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 14, 2003 12:38 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by Larry_Dunn

QUOTE: Originally posted by claymore68

Nope, I haven't started yet.

Me either. For me, it's December 1 to Feb 1. That's the game! If it ain't done on Feb 1, I'm going to post a photo of an incomplete bucket of bolts. "Look, it's one of the Panthers the Allies found in the factory!"

LOL !!!
say, how can u tell if a bucket of bolts is complete or not ? Wink [;)]

frosty

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 14, 2003 12:23 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by claymore68

Nope, I haven't started yet.

Me either. For me, it's December 1 to Feb 1. That's the game! If it ain't done on Feb 1, I'm going to post a photo of an incomplete bucket of bolts. "Look, it's one of the Panthers the Allies found in the factory!"

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 14, 2003 12:05 PM

Well so far we have broken or badly bent every group build "rule" Big Smile [:D]

(same mfg., same variant, etc.) but I think we have kept the spirit (somewhat). Wink [;)]

What do you say, should we let Frosty and J-Hulk play?
We might as well break the "same scale" rule too!

P.S. Rule =suggestion right? Mischief [:-,]

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 14, 2003 10:21 AM

the alpha and omega of it, from 1/76 to 1/25....
so, can we play too ? Big Smile [:D]

frosty

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J-Hulk

Member since
February 2003
From: Tochigi, Japan

Posted by J-Hulk on Friday, November 14, 2003 10:11 AM

Say, I do have a 1/25 Jagdpanther that needs finishing up!

~Brian

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 14, 2003 9:57 AM

is the group build limited to 1/35 only, or do u guys have room for "the little people" (1/72 and 1/76 scale) ? it sounds like fun, but i'd rather use a kit i've already got than have to buy a new one... i've already started on a ausf G in 1/72, and i've just about finished my first 1/35 build, the tamiya Walker Bulldog.
don't worry, if it's 1/35 only, that's ok... really.... sniff sniffle... Sad [:(]

frosty

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tigerman

Member since
March 2003
From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA

Posted by tigerman on Thursday, November 13, 2003 8:51 AM

I wash them while they are on the sprue, because I figure that the model might get damaged if I wash it after it was built.

"It is well that war is so terrible, lest we grow too fond of it."-R.E.Lee

Eric

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wildwilliam

Member since
December 2009
From: West Grove, PA

Posted by wildwilliam on Thursday, November 13, 2003 7:11 AM

i wash them while everthing is still on the sprue.
then again before paint.
i figure i need every possible advantage.
i have never had problem w/ mold release interfering w/ glue.
but why chance it, right?

ed.

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erush

Member since
May 2003
From: USA, GA

Posted by erush on Thursday, November 13, 2003 6:53 AM

Nick, I'll wash mine before painting them but I've never bothered for the build.

* moans of despair rise from the gallery * Wink [;)]

I know I get enough oils from my hands on a kit when I'm building that it's not going to matter enough to bother but I will wash them before I paint because that is critical.

Eric

Hi, I'm Eric and I'm a Modelholic too. I think I have PE poisioning.

"Friendly fire...isn't"

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nmayhew

Member since
July 2003
From: Kent, England

Posted by nmayhew on Thursday, November 13, 2003 4:34 AM

does washing everything in soap and water actually make a difference? i never really bother...(i can hear the shrieks and gasps as i type!![:0][:0][:0])
sorry for the "newbie" question!
regards,
nick

Kind regards, Nicholas

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tigerman

Member since
March 2003
From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA

Posted by tigerman on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 7:24 PM

I just got my final parts a few days ago, so I haven't started yet. I was only going to wash the kit in soap and water, so it will be ready to go.

"It is well that war is so terrible, lest we grow too fond of it."-R.E.Lee

Eric

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lizardqing

Member since
July 2003
From: Dahlonega, Georgia

Posted by lizardqing on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 7:11 PM

I have not started yet either. Actually I have yet to get anything to start yet, I must allready be falling behind.

Chris The Scale Firehouse The Lizard's Workshop

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