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Iraqi T55 wreck nearly complete, lots of new pics

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Posted by psstoff995 on Friday, May 8, 2009 12:13 PM

I believe the fire actually speeds up the oxidation process as well.

And not to steal your thread, but for your Tamiya wreck-

here's my T-72 mantlet, no AM, just modeling clay and putty. I’m really looking forward to your next step by step- this T-72’s been sitting on the shelf for a while now (you can just make out the sabot wound on the right side of the frame)

Also DEFINITELY looking forward to your Tamiya T-55 build in the future.

-Chris

US Army Infantryman

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Posted by vector123 on Friday, May 8, 2009 1:02 PM

 smokinguns3 wrote:
Holly Crap that is just awsome. your gona have to give us a tutorial onhow you did  the  rust  and  the weathering.

ya i agree just an awesome job.

always looking for tips and suggestions!
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Posted by scratchmod on Friday, May 8, 2009 2:22 PM

Ok guys you asked for it and here it is. I'm not much of a writer so if I don't explain it quite well, just ask a question. "WARNING" lots of pics here.

1   I started by giving the turret a base coat black/brown mix then added some Tamiya hull red to that mix

2   Next step is to wet the model with thinner, I use Mona Lisa paint thinner for oil paints. Apply oil paints, in this case black, van *** brown and yellow ochre. I applied more than the useual dot method for weathering. With a wet brush mix all the colors into the base color. It looks messy and smeared but that's ok.

 

3.   Apply the rust colored pigments( I normally use real rust powder ) to the still wet surface. If the oils are drying too fast, simply wet it again. You want the pigments on thick, if it's too thick when done just simply use a soft brush and remove the pigments until your happy with the results. Use different shades of rust pigments starting from dark to light. You will notice the pigments start drying the thinner which is what you want.

4   The hair spray..I applied HS straight from the can only to the lower portion of the turret for this how-t. Before the HS dries I sprinkle salt over the HS. The HS helps the salt adhere better and quicker than water. A hair dryer speeds up the drying time.

5   Spray the appropriate tank color over the area you want the chipped paint to be, here only the lower portion of the turret.

6   Here is where my method differs from the normal HS/salt technique...No water to remove the salt/HS. I started by gently removing the salt with a large stiff brush. to remove more of the paint for large chips I switched to a short stiff brush. The pigments and oill paints form a barrier between the HS and base color so the paint comes off easy, revieling the rust area under neath.

7  to finish off the turret and give it dimension, I drybrushed black pastel powder over the lower section and raised surfaces. 

 

And that's about all there is to it. It took me about 1 1/2 hours to do the turret. I hope this "how-to" is more helpful than the last not so clear post from above. Give it a try and let me know how it works out for you.

Feel free to ask questions if you have any. 

 

Rob

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Posted by psstoff995 on Friday, May 8, 2009 3:41 PM

Shock [:O] Thanks so much for going into that for us- get rust "how to"

I'll have to practice up on my Airbrush skills now...

-Chris

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Posted by disastermaster on Friday, May 8, 2009 8:54 PM

Rob.

 http://th50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/rh4545/emoticons/th_hair.gif

Please upgrade to Pro today. Can't see a dang thing. Looks like armorama is eating all the bandwidth!

http://www.innovationbyinstinct.com/services/hosting/clients/accountyp/status/DisasterMaster/%23t1-4.jpg

 https://i.imgur.com/LjRRaV1.png

 

 

 
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Posted by smokinguns3 on Saturday, May 9, 2009 4:33 PM
 disastermaster wrote:

Rob.

 http://th50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/rh4545/emoticons/th_hair.gif

Please upgrade to Pro today. Can't see a dang thing. Looks like armorama is eating all the bandwidth!

http://www.innovationbyinstinct.com/services/hosting/clients/accountyp/status/DisasterMaster/%23t1-4.jpg

 

whats the dealBig Smile [:D] we want pics

Rob I think i can I think i can
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Posted by scratchmod on Saturday, May 9, 2009 8:23 PM

Sorry guys...the pics are there now for the how-to

 

Rob

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Posted by disastermaster on Sunday, May 10, 2009 12:52 AM

I bet there's gonna be a slew of KVII s comin out soon.

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 https://i.imgur.com/LjRRaV1.png

 

 

 
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Posted by psstoff995 on Sunday, May 10, 2009 1:51 AM
Laugh [(-D]

-Chris

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Posted by redleg12 on Sunday, May 10, 2009 5:46 AM

Rob - A very nice how-to on the rust. OK....how many beers and smokes during that 1 1/2 hours Wink [;)]

You can never have enough hair spray!!

Thanks

Rounds Comptete!!

"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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Posted by scratchmod on Sunday, May 10, 2009 10:30 AM

I worked on the second turret yesterday at the Nordland AMPS weekly coffee hour, and gave the guys a quick demo using this turret. Some of the chipping was done by the guys to get a feel for the technique. I did some more chipping and started the weathering today.

I used the wife's buisiness camara for these pics and what a difference.

A couple of better pics of the first turret.

That's about it for today, I'll have to start on the hull soon so I can have more fun with the painting.

 Only one beer, enough time to let things dry. In the morning it's coffee and not beer.

 

Rob

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Posted by Bodge on Sunday, May 10, 2009 10:48 AM
That for sure is some of the best finnishing ive ever seen , good n you. You must be over the moon with how these are going, i know i would.Bow [bow]Bow [bow]Bow [bow]Bow [bow]Bow [bow]
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Posted by scratchmod on Sunday, May 10, 2009 10:53 AM

Thanks Bodge.  I'm still working on it so I'm not 100% happy yet. After doing these for over 8 years I'm getting close to what I'm looking for.

 

Rob

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Posted by Bodge on Sunday, May 10, 2009 10:55 AM
You have mpressed me and inspired me to have a go, thanks for the tutorial. Thumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by scratchmod on Sunday, May 10, 2009 10:59 AM

I look forward to seeing what you come up with.

 

Rob

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Posted by wing_nut on Sunday, May 10, 2009 12:05 PM
Amazing effect.  Gotta try that.

Marc  

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Posted by disastermaster on Sunday, May 10, 2009 3:51 PM

Gaaaaa....http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/CzyJay/Smileys/bigtongue.gif?t=1241983753

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 https://i.imgur.com/LjRRaV1.png

 

 

 
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Posted by terry35 on Sunday, May 10, 2009 4:13 PM

Hi, Rob that work is comming along with an amazing pace and a true quality of finish, just spectacular.

Terry.

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Posted by the doog on Sunday, May 10, 2009 6:28 PM

Rob, your work here is impeccable--very convincing, and stunningly artistic.

But what genuinely impresses me more is your willingness to share it with everyone here, and to instruct as to how you achieve such fantastic results--that is truly the mark of a great modeler and a humble man, in my estimation. Many can do--but not all are willing to share and inspire as you have here.

Sincerely, THANK YOU!!!!! Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by scratchmod on Sunday, May 10, 2009 7:16 PM

Thank you for those kind words Doog. I had an experiance about ten years ago, where a senior model builder with good painting skills would not even answer my questions as to how he achieved a certain painting effect on his models. This has stuck with me and I don't want to be one of those guys. If I come up with something different as far as techniques go, then I want to share it with others. Maybe some one will improve upon it and I intern will gain from it also.

Sorry if I'm carrying on.

Rob

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Posted by psstoff995 on Sunday, May 10, 2009 7:46 PM
Not at all Rob- and Sign - Ditto [#ditto] to doog's sentiments Thumbs Up [tup]Bow [bow]

-Chris

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Posted by Bushi on Sunday, May 10, 2009 7:59 PM

Rob It looks fantastic and soo real. I can not wait to see the rest. Keep up the excellent work.Make a Toast [#toast]

Bushi

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Posted by panzerguy on Sunday, May 10, 2009 9:37 PM

 Hey Rob thanks for the very cool toot, simple and easy to understand.  It's going to be a big help for a future project I have planed.

   I hear ya on the arrogant modeler syndrome. Had it happen to me also.

"Happiness is a belt fed weapon"

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, May 10, 2009 11:02 PM

Rob,

You should steal uh, I mean, borrow, your wife's camera more often! Really like where these are headed and always looking forward to the next round of pics. Thumbs Up [tup]

 panzerguy wrote:
I hear ya on the arrogant modeler syndrome. Had it happen to me also.

I personally have never understood the attitude of some that techniques or knowledge should somehow be 'hoarded' like dragon's gold or something similar. If someone's good and they are afraid of others learning their 'secret' and somehow commonizing their 'special blend' in the process, they have some insecurity issues to deal with on a personal level IMHO. Knowledge that isn't shared is useless...

It's great to see you sharing a tutorial on your methods Rob, your work is definitely an inspiration and no doubt we'll see more "wreckaholics" emerge here as a result! Wink [;)]

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, May 11, 2009 5:54 AM

Rob - I will further what has already been said by a few of my armor friends. Many come in and out of this forum. Few come in and are willing to go as far as you have.

Teaching is the greatest gift anyone can give. Many of the regulars here understand that. He who amasses a great wealth of knowledge and keeps it to himself is a fool. He who passes that knowldge on is a great man.

We all come here at first to learn, then share and teach. As the others have said, thank you.

Don't let the skills "rust up"

Rounds Complete!!

"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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Posted by Bodge on Monday, May 11, 2009 11:48 AM
Sign - Ditto [#ditto] To what Karl (Doog) said, we all want to progress and learn new things and i plan to use some of your teq on my current sherman. Thanks again , Andy.
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Posted by scratchmod on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 6:12 AM

Wow..I never expected to get feedback like this Blush [:I]. The thing I like most of all about this (FSM) site is that you guys don't hold anything back. From positive to negative feedback your still friendly, very helpfull and have a great sense of humor. 

I'm happy Big Smile [:D] to hear you guys are willing to try my tech out. Steve I'm asuming it will be on thse T34's you'll be doing?

Bill I'm especially pleased to see you following my build, thank you. "Wreckaholic", I like that, we'll have toget WA meetings going Smile [:)].

"Hi I'm Rob, and I'm a  wrechaholic" Laugh [(-D]

Guess I'll have to start on those hulls now.

 

Rob

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Posted by scratchmod on Monday, May 18, 2009 2:26 PM

Thanks AgentG glad to hear your willing to try it out.

I haven't done much to the hulls, just added the fenders on the Iraqi hull and some bits and pieces on the other. Here is how they are coming along.

I'm slowly getting bored with these to 55's. To make things worse, Trumpeter will be releasing their new t62 in July.Big Smile [:D]  I really have to get my a$$ in gear and finish these two, and the M1.

 

Rob

 

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Posted by Bodge on Monday, May 18, 2009 3:35 PM
Dont get bored , you cant on a couple of builds to that standard. You sound like me. If i dont get on with a build and keep at it i tend to lose interest and shelve the build. Its a weakness of mine the Famo im doin is one such model, but youve got too many people watchin this one and they are far too good to shelve, Keep goingWink [;)]
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Posted by RBaer on Monday, May 18, 2009 4:40 PM
Rob, these things looks great. I'm quite simply going to have to do a wreck, no question.

Apprentice rivet counter.

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