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Hummel Late DML#6321 Smart Kit WIP--Oct 11

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  • From: Spring Branch, TX
Posted by satch_ip on Wednesday, October 7, 2009 6:30 PM
Wow that rocks!  It looks so real it could be die cast.  Did you see that pattern in any of your references?
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Posted by Pvt Mutt on Wednesday, October 7, 2009 6:37 PM

Satch I don't really remember just where I did see it because it was a few months back.

Glad you like it sir                                                                                                                     Tony the Mutt

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Posted by hughes2682 on Wednesday, October 7, 2009 8:47 PM
Tony,
I have no idea where I've been or how I hadn't at least taken a gander at your amazing work with this one. Man, am I glad I did now! This beast just keeps getting better. It made a huge jump when you gave it the umber wash. The range poles look great. By the way what exactly are they for? I know very little about artillery. Definitely will be following this one. I was unaware that they had this is a smart kit.
Cheers
Dave

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Posted by wbill76 on Wednesday, October 7, 2009 10:15 PM

Nice work on the poles Tony, you've got the pattern down perfect for them!

Dave,

The range poles are used to lay the gun in order for it to fire indirect artillery missions. The arty guys will no doubt drop in and provide a more complete/technical answer but essentially it works on the principle of triangulation. The range poles provide points of reference in relation to the gun vs. where you want the rounds to go...and you use them to sight in the gun in order to be able to hit a target you can't actually see when firing indirect vs. direct for example.

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Posted by RickLawler on Wednesday, October 7, 2009 10:39 PM

Most impressive, Tony.  You've really stepped up your game.

 

Rick

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Posted by disastermaster on Thursday, October 8, 2009 5:26 AM
 wbill76 wrote:

Nice work on the poles Tony, you've got the pattern down perfect for them!

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Posted by Pvt Mutt on Thursday, October 8, 2009 8:53 AM

WOW and Good Morning to all you wonderful people.Smile [:)]

What an unexpected surprise to find all the "At a Boy" post. I was expecting to have someone say the poles shine like a diamond in a goats butt since they are so garish. So you guys don't think they are to bright and need to be toned down any?

Thanks Bill for the explanation because I was not just real sure how they were used. Good ole Redlegs gave me a lesson on their use over on his post and I Thank him for that.

Thanks for those great compliments                                                                                          Tony the Mutt

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Posted by detailfreak on Thursday, October 8, 2009 9:54 AM
looks alright to me Pvt.Mutt.i think there may be a nashorn for sale on the evil-bay with much the same scheme.and i believe the other spot i may have seen it is on a web site from the Dk.i f i can find it i'll share it with you.as stated before,your build is looking great and i'm looking forward to the finished product.Bow [bow]

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Posted by hughes2682 on Thursday, October 8, 2009 10:58 AM
Bill,
Thank you for the explanation. It made sense

Tony,
In regards to the range poles, I would think that the crew would take just as good of care of them just as they would their other equipment. Especially, if they want their rounds to go where they are supposed to while utilizing indirect fire.
"Diamond in a goats butt"... LOL

Cheers
Dave

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Posted by Pvt Mutt on Thursday, October 8, 2009 11:01 AM

Thanks Greg that would be interesting to see.Approve [^]

Going in there and test out that Black4Tracks by Tank Rat,i'll keep you posted.                                Tony the Mutt

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Posted by Pvt Mutt on Thursday, October 8, 2009 2:18 PM

OK I told everyone I was going to try "Black4Tracks" from TankRats AFVdepot on my Friuls instead of "Blacken It" this time. I've used Blacken It on five sets of tracks and each time after a long soak,tooth brushing and every degreaser known to me the tracks were always covered with silver spots on the detail side. I would cover these with  heavy applications of umber oil washes. It was no big deal it just took a lot of extra drying time between coats.

Then a new product hits the market and I figured what the heck nothing ventured nothing gained so I ordered a bottle. The tracks for the Hummel would be a good test because of the very small details deep down inbetween the treads. So without farther ado lets do it.Big Smile [:D]

Tank Rat told me to just degrease with a dish washing liquid like Joy,no reason to get exotic so I did just that and I also used my old tooth brush to scrub them down front and back,rinsed and used the wife hair drier until good and dry.

Useing a small container I poured all but about an ounce over the tracks and swished it around a little. After they begain to blacken I took them out and placed them on that blue lid you saw earlier. I dipped my tooth brush in the solution and scrubbed them down again front and back to make sure all the details were exposed to the Black4Track and put them back in the container for an another minute or so.

To stop the chemical reaction and neutralize the acid I mixed a teaspoon of baking soda in a glass of water in advance so it would be ready and soaked the tracks in it for a few minutes. Did the tooth brush routine and then rinsed the tracks in running water. Hair drier time again till dry.

And here are the results after maybe thirty to forty five minutes total woking time. There are a few silver spot in the deep and very small detail but nothing that a normal oil wash won't cover with one coat.

Tank Rat you've made a believer out of me your "Black4Tracks" at least for me,is a much better product for the job it does on FriulModel tracks.

This review or test was not solicited by Tank Rat or his company and i've not received any compensation  nor do I expect any.

Now I can finish in a day what used to take three or four.                                                           Tony the Mutt 

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Posted by Pvt Mutt on Friday, October 9, 2009 3:33 PM

Rain Rain go away Please.Big Smile [:D]

How's it going everybody? Got a little something to show you. Here are the tracks after one coat of Burnt Sienna oil wash for the rust effect and a couple of coats of a weaker mix Raw Umber oil wash to take the edge off the Sienna.

After I finish the weathering on the Hummel i'll use my chalks or pigment to match it on the tracks.

Well that's it for today and Thanks                                                                                             Tony the Mutt

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Posted by deafpanzer on Friday, October 9, 2009 3:39 PM
Very nice job with the tracks! Thumbs Up [tup]  I can not tell the difference if it is real or not.  Thanks for the toot!  I wanted to make sure that I understood this correctly that it has to be metal tracks to make it work? 

Andy

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Posted by scratchmod on Friday, October 9, 2009 3:45 PM

Wow those are awesome looking tracks Tony, I might get me a bottle or two of that stuff. Thanks for posting a step by step on the use of the stuff.

 

Rob

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Posted by wbill76 on Friday, October 9, 2009 5:14 PM
Tracks look great Tony! Thumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by Pvt Mutt on Friday, October 9, 2009 5:23 PM

Yeah Andy it is for metal tracks only i'm afraid and I appreciate your comments too.Big Smile [:D]

Rob I think you'll like it if you try it and Thanks again for your "At a Boy" as well.Blush [:I]

Tony the Mutt

PS: Oooops almost missed you Bill and Thanks as always your approval goes a long way.

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Posted by I make stuff on Friday, October 9, 2009 5:52 PM

Nice shoes, Tony, this is going to be a nice ride.

Thanks for the black-track write up, I wondered how it would compare, seems like it's worth a shot.

Bill 

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Posted by IBuild148 on Friday, October 9, 2009 7:41 PM

mutt,

Great tutorial on the tracks. If I ever use Friuls I will use this process.

Item of note....PLEASE tell me that the toothbrush you used is not in your toothbrush holder?

I definitely like the "Burnt Sienna" oil wash you did on the tracks. I am going do this on my Sturm.

What was the mix that you used? I use Windsor Newton Oils.

As for the rain...sent it my way.

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Posted by figure freak on Friday, October 9, 2009 8:28 PM
Looking real nice so far, where are you at in S.W Mo, because if your in the joplin area the guys in our model club would be absolutely THRILLED to have you, i think the camo looks awsome too
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Posted by Pvt Mutt on Friday, October 9, 2009 8:32 PM

The toot was my pleasure guys.

I use the same oils IB with Terpenoid(blue label) as thinner. My mix:I'll start out with say a BB size ball of oil to about a teaspoon or so of thinner. If to weak a little more oil and if to strong a little more thinner. Keep it stirred up because this stuff separates quickly.

I can tell you right now I bet that brush is germ free.Laugh [(-D]

As for the rain I would but the jet stream is not in your favor my friend. Besides they would have to change the words to the song and it just wouldn't be the same.Smile [:)]

See You Guys Later                                                                                                               Tony the Mutt

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Posted by Pvt Mutt on Saturday, October 10, 2009 12:42 PM

Phase 3 track progress.

Is this any better? Never been around a real tank in my life just heavy tracked construction equipment. So what do you think?

Tony the Mutt

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Posted by terry35 on Saturday, October 10, 2009 1:45 PM

Briliant work on the tracks there Tony.

Terry.

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Posted by psstoff995 on Sunday, October 11, 2009 12:52 AM
That looks awesome! The trackblack worked great- love the rusty look- and the silver really finishes it off (not that I've seen real tracks up close) Can't wait to see these guys mounted up on your Hummerl Bow [bow]

-Chris

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Posted by M1Carbine on Sunday, October 11, 2009 2:16 AM

Wow Tony, the tracks look AWSOME!.

 

Bob

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Posted by Pvt Mutt on Sunday, October 11, 2009 9:48 AM

Thanks everyone I kinda thought that I should stop right there.Approve [^]

Thanks for coming by and taking the time to tell me what you think.                                                Tony the Mutt

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Posted by Pvt Mutt on Sunday, October 11, 2009 7:51 PM

About ready to head for the finish line. All the hardware is installed and all it needs is to let it dry for another day or two then apply the flat coat and start on the chalks and pigments.

So don't go away just yet.                                                                                                        Tony the Mutt

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Posted by the doog on Sunday, October 11, 2009 7:57 PM

Tony--really cool unique camo there!

I have to say that, IMO, I think the tracks look way too "new" now. They reallly looked "real" to me in the previous photo before you went all shiny with them. Of course, if the vehicle were traveling in gravel like that base you have there, they might just shine up a bit more than normal, from wear. But I"m not sure if they may be too bright now?

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Posted by Jester75 on Sunday, October 11, 2009 8:10 PM
Your Hummel looks fantastic Tony! I may try the new track stuff as I used Blackenit on the Friuls for my KT and there was alot of silver places left on them even after a good soaking and scrubbing in vinegar.

Eric

 

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, October 11, 2009 10:07 PM

Getting closer to the finish line with this one Tony! The choice of gravel for the base is an interesting one, any particular reason for that out of curiosity?

I also noticed (and sorry I didn't catch this before) that you've got the driver's visor posed in the open position but have left the armored glass block in position. These were detachable and when the visor was open the block was removed...otherwise the driver couldn't really see out the opening in the front plate. Not sure if that's something you can address at this stage or not.

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Posted by satch_ip on Monday, October 12, 2009 8:06 AM

Do you have an historical context for this?  IE unit, location, time frame?  I'm in a hotel so I can't look up your markings but I recognize the divisional insignia.  Just can't put my finger on it.

As for the tracks, the newness can be accounted for in many ways.  Could be a road march, could be hard surface cross country, or could be new tracks for a veteran vehicle.  Who's to say?

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