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Posted by M1Carbine on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 6:58 PM

Thanks Brother.  I was looking at the scale nuts again....man-o-man, I think id have a migraine after that but you executed it perfectly bro.

 

Bob

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Posted by wing_nut on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 2:38 PM

Looks good Dave.  i like what you did with the tape for the pins marks.  Gave me an idea to use a hole punch in the tape to do that.  I too have had some touch sanding session doing it the sloppy way.

Marc  

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Posted by hughes2682 on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 10:24 AM

Tony,

Here is the really sick part.  The crew I work with like when I'm in charge.  They know the know the storm cloud that follows me and it has been said that I am proof the excrement has magnetic properties.  As I am an excrement magnet.    My crew has said on several occasions that I always have "such interesting parties". I work in a Surgical Intensive Care Unit.  My shifts are always interesting.

Deafpanzer,

Sorry I couldn't have been of an assist earlier.  I was up at Bob's (aka M1Carbine) this last weekend.  That was a hoot.  I am glad that it will help you with future projects.  By the look of the pics your work is cut out for you.  I agree whole heartedly about these forums.

Bob,

Glad to have you along brother.  Yes, the EP marks are something else but, Mr Putty and the disolved putty works quite well.  That is a nice start on the Sherman DV by the way!

Cheers

Dave

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Posted by M1Carbine on Monday, May 17, 2010 2:22 PM

Dave - looking good so far brother.  Geez talk about injector pin marks  good lord man. 

 

Bob

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Posted by deafpanzer on Monday, May 17, 2010 1:34 PM

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God, I wish you posted this few days earlier!  Why?  I did the hardest way sanding last Saturday... without using the painter tape.  Tamiya kit... no kidding!

Took me forever to do the job. Bang Head  That's why I love this forum because I am still learning great tips like yours just now.   Thanks for sharing... Yes

Andy

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Posted by Pvt Mutt on Monday, May 17, 2010 12:22 PM

And the Beat Goes OnYes

Will anybody show up at work knowing you're going to be in charge?Hmm

Delegate and get back to the bench until lunch break.Big Smile

Tony LeeSmile

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Posted by hughes2682 on Monday, May 17, 2010 11:29 AM

Here is a finished bogie and what goes into it. The seam line clean up really isn't too bad

The part posed below the assembled bogie is the only part that had a EP mark that had to be shaved.  You can see it just above the pin at the lower right portion of the part.  This has to be rectified, otherwise the leaf springs will not fit through the final assembly.

The EP marks on the bottom side of the fenders were fairly numerous and prominent.  The rear portion of the fenders had the same problem but, I did not take pictures of them because, well, you get the picture. CameraBig Smile

Everything masked off. I may get to sanding today before work.  We'll see, as I am in charge tonight and have to be there a bit earlier.  

This ain't no shake-n-bake.  I love it!Big Smile

Cheers

Dave

 

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Posted by hughes2682 on Monday, May 17, 2010 11:24 AM

Here is a finished bogie and what goes into it. The seam line clean up really isn't too bad

The part posed below the assembled bogie is the only part that had a EP mark that had to be shaved.  You can see it just above the pin at the lower right portion of the part.  This has to be rectified, otherwise the leaf springs will not fit through the final assembly.

The EP marks on the bottom side of the fenders were fairly numerous and prominent.  The rear portion of the fenders had the same problem but, I did not take pictures of them because, well, you get the picture. CameraBig Smile

Everything masked off. I may get to sanding today before work.  We'll see, as I am in charge tonight and have to be there a bit earlier.  

This ain't no shake-n-bake.  I love it!Big Smile

Cheers

Dave

 

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Posted by hughes2682 on Sunday, May 16, 2010 12:20 PM

Tony,

WOW! I am honored but, know this, I am NOT wearing the mini skirt.  LOL  A man has got to draw the line somewhere.  Anyway, legs are too hairy. Big Smile

Trust me, I am not going anywhere.  Quit?!  What does that mean? Head down boys and pull forward!!!

Cheers

Dave

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Posted by Pvt Mutt on Sunday, May 16, 2010 12:02 PM

You better hang in there Dave remember you're one of my cheerleaders and it wouldn't be setting a good example for you to lay down on me.Big Smile

I've been fighting this sort of stuff with ever build.Bang Head

Tony LeeSmile

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Posted by hughes2682 on Sunday, May 16, 2010 11:41 AM

Deafpanzer,

The details in the Tristar kits is amazing. Not to mention the parts count.  I like a low parts kit every once in a while to kind of hit the reset button but, I really do love these high count kits.  You can let your OCDness roll around in it. Big Smile.  Thank you for following along.

Bill,

Oh yes!  I built that same kit.  I think the parts tally ended up being about 1200 pieces.  I needed to build a simple kit after that but, I do love those high count kits.  I was going to build a Bronco Cruiser but, I decided that I have built a few Bronco kits and, I wanted to see how the Tristars go together since I've got a couple of their Pz IVs and a Marder H in the stash.  Plus, I was getting an itch to tackle a high count kit again. Stick out tongue. My wife calls me a "sicko" whenever I undertake one of these kinds of kits.  Albeit, it is said in a very loving manner. Wink I've started on the bogies which are simply sublime. They each have seven parts sans wheels. The fine detail is well molded and crisply defined. The best part is that they articulate!Yes One of the trailing swing arms has an EP mark that stands proud and requires some VERY careful trimming with a very sharp blade.  Otherwise the leaf spring will not fit through properly nor will the two halves of the trailing arm glue together.  I'll post pics of it later as I do not have access to the computer today.

Thank you for following along gentlemen.

Cheers

Dave

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Posted by wbill76 on Friday, May 14, 2010 1:19 PM

This one was released at the same time that DML was doing their "Super Kits"...the overkill on the detail parts resulted in the "Smart Kit" evolution as the 1000+ parts count deterred quite a few builders. I know when I built the DML Pz IV E it was a marathon ordeal to get it all completed...your Tristar kit looks similar Dave, hang in there and keep on slugging away! Beer

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Posted by deafpanzer on Friday, May 14, 2010 1:08 PM

WOW!  Great details... I bought Tristar IV Ausf. D few weeks ago at AMPS show and I was amazed by how many parts it came in the box.  I will be following your work definitely!  Good luck...

Andy

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Posted by hughes2682 on Friday, May 14, 2010 12:57 AM

I got a bit of detail stuff done on this beastie.  Actually Tristar kits are made up of a lot of small detail parts.  The opti-loupes are getting a fair amount of use with this one. This shot is of one of the idler mounts.  Mind you the squares are one inch.

The level of detail on these Tristar kits is phenomenal.  There are thirteen parts on the rear of the hull, including the rear hull plate.  There are more parts to come.

The final drives and their armored covers are stunning little pieces.  The bolts are separate pieces on both the fore and aft armor covers

A mock up shot with the drive sprocket.

Here is the right final drive sans armored covers to show the bolt head detail.  It seems a shame to cover it but, I do not have a maintenance dio in mind. Pity.Crying

I couldn't resist a scale pic to show just how small the bolts are for the final drive aft covers.  One, very carefully shaves the bolt head off with a scalpel and , attaches it with an incredibly small amount of cement while handling the part with a toothpick moistened with spit.  

Cheers

Dave

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Posted by hughes2682 on Monday, May 10, 2010 1:54 AM

Bill,

It is nice to see you following along on this one.  Thank you.  The fit issue may rear its head down the road but, the more I have been thinking about the assemblies to follow I am inclined to think that it may not be as bad as I had originally thought.  I had a lot of elaborate corrections rolling through my head and, then realized the age old axiom.... K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Stupid!  Its been a while since I've done a monochromatic gray and, I thought this one would fill the bill nicely.

Cheers

Dave

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Posted by I make stuff on Sunday, May 9, 2010 6:29 PM

This is coming along nicely, Dave, I am sure you can overcome the, uh, fitment issues.  THere's certainly some group expernience here to help you through what will work best, present company excluded, I have been lucky so far.

I hear you about Edmund and groundwork, he recenlty talked me throug a baby base, looking back it was nowhere near as bad as I thought it would be.  I am a base maniac now.

Anyway, I wil be watching this, it's goiing to be very cool when you get it finished.

Bill

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Posted by hughes2682 on Sunday, May 9, 2010 5:10 PM

Brian,

Thank you for taking a gander at this beastie.  These were certainly the work horses for the Germans.

Eric,

Well, the gap came back to bite me in the buttocks.  Gluing the sides on with the warp in the hull pan was a bit more tricky than I had thought.  Hind sight being 20/20 I would have done it differently. I would have shaved the hull pan where the side meets at the rear and, glued the rear portion of the hull side first.  The left side of the hull isn't so bad.  Now the right side (rear that is) is another story.  I fear that it may come back to haunt me yet again.  Probably with the running gear.  I will make this work.  Congratulations on your Brummbar score.  I think it will build up into a stunning kit.  The caveat being, this ain't no Tamiya kit.  Not that it's a bad kit.  It is not for neophytes.  Take your time and let my venture serve as a warning to others.  Big Smile. Just eyeball along the hull pan to see if you have any warpage.  If you do, take your time with it.  If you want give me a call and I can describe in more detail to help you out.

Bill,

Thank you for following along.  As I wrote above, "let my venture serve as a warning to others".  I fear that the right rear portion is going to give me fits on this one.  I will persevere!Wink Head down, pull forward boys!

The sticks actually have nuts at the ends of them. It was just very convenient to glue them this way.

A detail shot of one of the nuts

Here is a detail shot of the left rear.  Now compare the step off to the right side.  Uggggh!Dead

The right hull side stands a wee bit proud of the hull pan.  

An inside shot of the right rear carnage.  I had a coulda, shoulda, woulda moment when I saw this the next morning and realized that I should have used a bar clamp running transverse to the hull, just to keep the sides is.  At the time everything seemed OK.  Not OK now.

That's it for now as my work week starts here in a few hours.

Cheers

Dave

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Posted by tigerman on Saturday, May 8, 2010 9:19 PM

Not to hijack the thread, but I just won the Tristar Brummbar off of ebay, and fortunately for me, it's a one-piece lower hull. After seeing your thread, I was scared that I would have the same problem. I won it before I could check out the review.

Now, back to our regularly scheduled program.

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 Eric 

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Posted by wbill76 on Saturday, May 8, 2010 8:07 PM

I have this same kit in the stash Dave so will be following along to see how this one builds up. That gap at the rear can hopefully be overcome with some strategic pressure and assistance from other parts down the road...otherwise it may get ugly! Propeller

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Posted by tigerman on Saturday, May 8, 2010 6:37 PM

That's a pretty disturbing gap Dave. I hear that Tristar kits are very good, but haven't seen  many built up. Hopefully it's just a glitch.

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Posted by New Hampshire on Saturday, May 8, 2010 6:11 PM

Can't wait to see this puppy built up!  If I had to pick a German armored vehicle as my favorite it would be the IV series.  They just look like the epitome of bad arsedness!

Brian

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Tristar Pz IV Ausf B DONE 8/12 page 11
Posted by hughes2682 on Saturday, May 8, 2010 6:00 PM

I completed my wingy thingy for the Classic Aviation GB 1903-1938.  Now back into armor.  I decided to take on a Tristar kit that had been in the stash for a bit and I had been wanting to do some earlier armor.  Voilà! Panzer IV Ausf B.

I had been forewarned about making sure the hull tub is thoroughly squared up  when gluing.  Now to spice things up my hull pan had warps on the fore and aft sections. AngryThe middle was nice and level.  Just lucky I guess?Angel  This is where the Panavice and a bar clamp saved my bacon.  The aft section where the rear hull plate is to go looks like there may be a bit of a gap to contend with later.  I measured the width of the hull on the fore section at 54mm and the aft section also measured in at 54mm.  The hope is that the rear hull plate will cover this gap.  I wasn't able to test fit this to see if the gap will be covered since I am lacking four additional arms and hands.  Also, I dare not take the hull assembly out of the Panavice until the cement has thoroughly cured.  

A shot of the box art.  I have some early DML German figures that I may do a small vignette.  Schnobs has been a source of great inspiration to undertake some ground work.  Time to just dive in and do it.

The large white evergreen stock was to help square up the bulk heads.

Here is the gap that may or may not come back to haunt me very shortly.Hmm

Cheers

Dave

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