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Tamiya Wespe COMPLETE 08-29-10

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 30, 2010 9:06 PM

I love your Vespa and want to marry it....probably your best build ever in terms of what you have done with her after the construction was complete:  finishing and "weathering" are spot-on IMO...nicest effort ever in terms of suspension weathering...YesYes

You get better with each build but you took a bigger step in that evolution with this particular one, IMO...

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Posted by tigerman on Monday, August 30, 2010 8:51 PM

Hi Jester nice to see you around again. I'd love to see your interpretation of the Wespe.

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 Eric 

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, August 30, 2010 8:26 PM

Nate, always glad to hear that a project is inspiring to others! I often get inspired in the same way by seeing what other builders are doing so I'm happy to pay it forward so-to-speak! Wink

Eric, steal away my friend! Big Smile

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Posted by Jester75 on Monday, August 30, 2010 6:28 PM

Cool idea Bill, I may steal it if that is ok!!

Eric

 

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Posted by Nachtflieger on Monday, August 30, 2010 6:23 PM

I'll keep an eye out for that blog! I've got the new Dragon STuG F8 with winterketten on my "to do" pile, so I'll be watching with interest. I've been wanting to try a winter scheme for a while now, and it may just be with my STuG. Your builds are very inspiring!Big Smile

Nate

 

 

 

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, August 30, 2010 6:12 PM

Eric (jester75) , nice to see you drop by, it's been a while! I painted the leaf springs in their metal color for two reasons: 1) while they may have been painted in base color at some point in time, it wouldn't take long with the constant flex action of the suspension to cause the paint to flake off and expose the regular metal and 2) it allowed for some additional color variation on the underside. Wink

Kenny, thanks for the kind words but don't sell your own build short in the process! Wink

Nate, thanks as well. Next up on the bench will be the DML Pz III N w/ Winterketten...I need to do a build log for it to go with an in-box review so it's next on the schedule. Wink

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Posted by Nachtflieger on Monday, August 30, 2010 5:13 PM

A real beauty Bill. Beer Any plans for the next one?

Nate

 

 

 

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Posted by spacepacker on Monday, August 30, 2010 4:44 PM

All I can say;;; is I'm glad people will have forgotten what mine looked like.

A great build...Cheers....Kenny

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Posted by Jester75 on Monday, August 30, 2010 4:39 PM

Hey Bill, that is a beautiful Wespe you have there. I agree with others that this may be your best to date! As you may or may not know, I have been whittling away at this same kit for some time now which will even have the same markings and scheme. I was curious as to why you painted the leafsprings in thier metal color instead of the vehicle color. Was this something commonly seen with this vehicle? She is a beauty and I can only hope that mine comes out a fraction as good as yours sir!

Eric

 

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Posted by bbrowniii on Monday, August 30, 2010 1:03 PM

wbill76

If these really were two different poles, they would scale out to be pretty short, so not sure about that. Definitely a mystery for which I don't have all the answers for sure! Wink One for the ages I suppose.

A mystery indeed, Bill...Geeked  Regardless, it is still a heck of a build!

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, August 30, 2010 8:59 AM

Steve, Eric, and Rick, thanks for the comments guys, I appreciate the support and glad you like the way it turned out. Beer

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Posted by RickLawler on Monday, August 30, 2010 8:42 AM

Hola Bill,

Been watching this one from a distance, but I needed to tell you what a great job you've done with this Wespe.

Take care,

Rick

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Posted by tigerman on Monday, August 30, 2010 1:09 AM

Have to agree with Karl, this might be your best yet. Really top-notch job on the weathering.

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 Eric 

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Posted by disastermaster on Sunday, August 29, 2010 11:08 PM

Being honest here about my thoughts.

Until the last update I thought this was gonna be a bit too clean; well ........ was I wrong?

Yep!

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Beautifully done and presented Bill.

 

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, August 29, 2010 10:26 PM

Anthony, Chris, thanks for the kind wors, really appreciate it!

BeerTony, I had a feeling this one would pull your lanyard since it's an SPG. Always glad to hear a build gets your seal of approval. Wink

Karl, I'm glad you like it...it's one of my favorites as well, I'm very pleased with how it all turned out. It had been on my list for a while to get to but other things kept getting in the way. One more to cross off the list before DML decides to release one of their own! Big Smile

BeerBoyd, thanks for the kind words as well. Regarding the stake, I hear you about thinking that it's two stakes but there are two things that give it away as being two parts of a single pole...at least the way Tamiya molded them that is. The first is that only one of them has the long "spike" head on the end that would be stuck into the ground, the other only has a small threaded-like head such as what you would see on a barrel cleaning rod for example to allow it to be joined to the other pole. The second is the pattern of the candy-stripes...Tamiya molded faint separation marks to help with the painting and the finishing guide shows that the red band is split between the top half of the long pole and the bottom half of the short pole. This also conforms with the information in the Achtung Panzer #7 and available reference photos. If these really were two different poles, they would scale out to be pretty short, so not sure about that. Definitely a mystery for which I don't have all the answers for sure! Wink One for the ages I suppose.

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Posted by the doog on Sunday, August 29, 2010 10:08 PM
Bill, this one is definitely one of my favorites from you. Probably one of your best,  if not THE best I've seen from you in recent memory.
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Posted by bbrowniii on Sunday, August 29, 2010 9:31 PM

wbill76

BeerBoyd, yes we are indeed talking about the same thing, the aiming stakes. You're right of course about the use of 2 stakes to achieve the desired aiming and firing solution scenario. Why the Wespe only carried 1 is up for debate and it's not clear where the 2nd stake would have come from that it would've needed to be properly set up in a firing position. There isn't sufficient space anywhere else on the vehicle for a 2nd stake to be carried so it had to be provided from somewhere else for sure. There's also the question raised about the height of the stake. The Tamiya provided stake scales out to just short of 11 feet in total length...much taller than apparently what the norm is for US/Allied aiming stakes and that's also something I can't readily answer as to why there's a difference. Big Smile

Well, I am glad we are talking about the same thing - I have been known to go off on a tangent a time or two in the past...Embarrassed

Anyways, looking at your pic, I have to take your assessment that these stakes are supposed to be two parts of the same stake, but my first 'gut' reaction, is that there are two.  The shorter one would go 'in front' closer to the gun, the taller one behind.  I'm not sure how they scale out individually, or what implies they are parts of a single stake.  It is odd, however...

On a side note, I will say that, due to terrain, on a number of occassions my mortars were forced to set up aiming stakes that were ridiculously high.  At one particular range we fired from pretty regularly, the ground sloped so fast and so steep that our far aiming stake was easily 8 or 9 feet tall...

Oh well, one of those odd things to ponder about your kit.

Did I say 'SUPER' yet, by the way? Bow Down

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by Killjoy on Sunday, August 29, 2010 8:05 PM

Really a gorgeous build!  The weathering is just right for my tastes.  Congrats!

Chris

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Posted by Pvt Mutt on Sunday, August 29, 2010 7:29 PM

UTOPIA William you have reached NIRVANA with this beauty.

Without a doubt my favorite.Heart

What a trip

Tony LeeSmile

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Posted by Tojo72 on Sunday, August 29, 2010 7:25 PM

Another masterpiece BillYes

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, August 29, 2010 7:01 PM

Following on yesterday's footsteps, the final processes for the weathering stages were completed today.

First order of business was the application of a pin wash of roughly 90/10 Thinner/MM enamel Burnt Umber using a 10/0 brush to all the raised details and panel lines.

Since the previous washes and filters had removed much of the glossy surface, the pin wash "bloomed" in some places and the excess needed to be cleaned up. This was easily done with the same 10/0 brush and careful use of clean thinner to fine tune the result.

Next up the entire vehicle was given a coat of Testors MM Lusterless Flat in the spray-can to remove any remaining vestiges of gloss from the Future and to tie all the weathering in together. This was allowed to air dry for an hour or so and then the pigments were applied. I used a combination of Mig Pigments Rubble Dust, Europe Dust, Light Dust, and Dark Mud mixed together as dry powders. This was turned into a slurry/wet mixture by adding ordinary tap water with a touch of dish washing liquid soap to break the surface tension and the wet mixture applied liberally to the lower hull, tracks, and running gear with an old sable brush. The mixture was left to air dry which took about an hour or so.

I put on a dust mask to avoid breathing in the fine pigment particles and went to work removing excess pigment with a large round stiff bristled brush. The key here is to remove varying degrees of pigment depending on the surface in question, leaving for example more in place around the leaf springs and suspension but removing more on the wheels themselves, etc. I used some smaller square tip stiff bristled brushes as well for the tighter areas where needed.

Some additional fine tuning was done using both wet and dry cotton swabs until I had the result I was after.

That left one final detail...the installation of the radio antenna. This was accomplished with a small amount of CA gel applied to the base of the RB Models 2m brass antenna and then inserting it into the hole I'd pre-drilled earlier on in the assembly process.

The antenna was the painted with MM Non-buffing Metalizer Gunmetal and it was off to the photo-booth for the completed shots:

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, August 29, 2010 7:01 PM

Thanks Dave! Always a pleasure to share with the group here on FSM. Beer

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Posted by hughes2682 on Sunday, August 29, 2010 2:12 PM

Absolutely stunning sir!YesYesYes  This has been a wonderful build to follow.  Thank you so very much for posting and explaining your work as you go.

Cheers

Dave

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, August 29, 2010 11:41 AM

Iain, thanks for the comments and have to agree with you, the dot filter method has become a staple in my weathering arsenal. Very versatile and useful technique that can achieve a whole range of effects depending on how it's used.

BeerBoyd, yes we are indeed talking about the same thing, the aiming stakes. You're right of course about the use of 2 stakes to achieve the desired aiming and firing solution scenario. Why the Wespe only carried 1 is up for debate and it's not clear where the 2nd stake would have come from that it would've needed to be properly set up in a firing position. There isn't sufficient space anywhere else on the vehicle for a 2nd stake to be carried so it had to be provided from somewhere else for sure. There's also the question raised about the height of the stake. The Tamiya provided stake scales out to just short of 11 feet in total length...much taller than apparently what the norm is for US/Allied aiming stakes and that's also something I can't readily answer as to why there's a difference. Big Smile

Karl!, you've become almost as rare as a Bigfoot sighting! Glad to have you stop by as always!

BeerEric, Nate, and Andy, appreciate your comments as well guys, today has the finish line in sight so should have more pics up later tonight.

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Posted by deafpanzer on Sunday, August 29, 2010 9:36 AM

What a beauty! Yes You made it look too easy to do your weathering method... very close to the finish line as I am looking forward to see it completed.

Andy

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Posted by Nachtflieger on Sunday, August 29, 2010 7:47 AM

Man, does that look good! I really like that camo, and the washes just brings everything together. I also like the splash of color from the aiming stakes. Looks like another beauty to add to your display case!

Nate

 

 

 

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Posted by tigerman on Sunday, August 29, 2010 1:02 AM

Nice Bill. Love the decals.

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Posted by Pvt Mutt on Saturday, August 28, 2010 11:44 PM

Well HEY KARL, yep this guy is on rails.Yes

Good to know you're home Karl

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Posted by the doog on Saturday, August 28, 2010 11:13 PM

Quite the impeccable little Wespe, there, Bill!

Great paint job, and the decals are killer. Nice to see that nothing's changed since I've been away. lol. Good to see you're still turning out your usual high standard! Big Smile

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Posted by bbrowniii on Saturday, August 28, 2010 10:43 PM

wbill76

Steve,

That's a good question...when I measure the two halves of the pole, they come to 9.5cm in total length including the tip that would go into the ground. That scales out to 332.5cm on the real deal or right around 10.9 feet in length. I have no idea what the actual height/length of German artillery survey poles might have been but it does seem pretty tall to me! Wink They aren't meant to be two separate poles the way Tamiya has them molded...definitely molded as two halves of the same pole. The references in Achtung Panzer #7 show the same single pole arrangement so it's not an ucommon layout and they definitely aren't gun cleaning rods which is the only other possibility I could think of.

Bill

I'm not sure if I'm adding to an already answered question, but I thought I'd chime in... by survey poles, I assume you mean the red and white stakes on the end of the vehicle?  As a mortarman, we refer to those as aiming stakes.  Now, I won't pretend to know how the artillery does it, but since indirect fire principles are pretty similar, I'd suspect some overlap.  With that in mind, for mortars, there are two poles.  You put out a near and a far aiming stake.  Using those stakes as reference points, and aligning your site with them allows you to engage targets in a 360-degree circle and ones which you cannot see (hence, you can't site in on the target).

If I am off on a tangent because I misunderstood your and Steve's exchange, I apologize.

And finally, as always, SUPER JOB!!!

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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