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Tamiya's T34, former shelf queen WIP

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  • From: Dripping Springs, TX, USA
Posted by RBaer on Thursday, September 29, 2011 1:42 PM

RESlusher

 RBaer:

 

http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff451/rustybaer/SD530049.jpg

 

Russ,

I might be wrong here; but take a look at this track.  It looks to me like there's a bit too much sag before the track meets up with the road wheel.  You might need to take out a link or two?  I'm not 100% though.  See what the experts say.

 

I have pulled two links (minimum I can pull due to to different type links) and the track is way too tight, even with the idler moved all the way back, this pic is with the idler all the way forward. I have another T34 in progress, exact same issue. Believe me, I have worked this one. Also, the track appears loose at the front, tight at the rear, because of how I turned the model to get another pic. If I "pose" the tracks with the same slack at the front and rear, it looks a little better. All said and done, I would like them a tad tighter, but with the way the Tamiya idlers are mounted (super simplified, since this was originally a motorized model) this is what I'm stuck with. Tracks this loose are sometimes seen in pics, seems the Russians weren't too picky about it, or had the same issue with the real thing that I did with the model.....yeah, that's it.....

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Posted by RBaer on Thursday, September 29, 2011 1:45 PM

p38jl

wow.. thats looking knarly dirty...! nice Toast

 

ps.. dumb question.. is the item just behind the headlight a horn ?? is it on backwards ??..Embarrassed hard to tell from the pic.. but??....

No dumb questions here.....it's a horn, and from what I can tell, it's supposed to be on that way. Makes no sense to me, either.

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Posted by p38jl on Thursday, September 29, 2011 2:05 PM

RBaer

 p38jl:

wow.. thats looking knarly dirty...! nice Toast

 

ps.. dumb question.. is the item just behind the headlight a horn ?? is it on backwards ??..Embarrassed hard to tell from the pic.. but??....

 

No dumb questions here.....it's a horn, and from what I can tell, it's supposed to be on that way. Makes no sense to me, either.

aah.. ok.. maybe its to warn the guys behind the tank ??..Whistling

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Posted by RESlusher on Thursday, September 29, 2011 2:09 PM

RBaer

I have pulled two links (minimum I can pull due to to different type links) and the track is way too tight, even with the idler moved all the way back, this pic is with the idler all the way forward. I have another T34 in progress, exact same issue. Believe me, I have worked this one. Also, the track appears loose at the front, tight at the rear, because of how I turned the model to get another pic. If I "pose" the tracks with the same slack at the front and rear, it looks a little better. All said and done, I would like them a tad tighter, but with the way the Tamiya idlers are mounted (super simplified, since this was originally a motorized model) this is what I'm stuck with. Tracks this loose are sometimes seen in pics, seems the Russians weren't too picky about it, or had the same issue with the real thing that I did with the model.....yeah, that's it.....

 

It still looks great though!  That's what's important!

 

Richard S.

On the bench:  AFV Club M730A1 Chaparral

On deck:  Tamiya Marder 1A2

In the hole:  Who knows what's next!

 

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Posted by wing_nut on Saturday, October 1, 2011 7:39 AM

That really looks nice.

I used Friuls on a T-34 and had the same problem.  Take outthose 2 links and too tight. I ended up increasing the sag on the top a tiny bit to take up some of the that front slack.  Aslo, pushing it forward on the table to have that extra bit of sag come off the back looks a bit better too.  Sorry, no pic of that.

Marc  

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  • From: Dripping Springs, TX, USA
Posted by RBaer on Monday, October 3, 2011 9:37 AM

wing_nut

That really looks nice.

I used Friuls on a T-34 and had the same problem.  Take outthose 2 links and too tight. I ended up increasing the sag on the top a tiny bit to take up some of the that front slack.  Aslo, pushing it forward on the table to have that extra bit of sag come off the back looks a bit better too.  Sorry, no pic of that.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/Armor/Img_9298.jpg

 

That's it exactly! Nice T34, btw.

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Posted by Mikeym_us on Monday, October 3, 2011 6:51 PM

The problem you have isn't the tracks they are supposed to be tight when the idlers are full foreward. But with the idler axel retaining bracket the way it is designed you will need to add either shims or a metal washer to the bottom of the bracket to keep it from tipping back and keeping you from keeping the axel sitting where you set it.

Now as for your Friul tracks best thing to do with those would be prior to assembly set your idle to full foreward and keep it there till assembly of the tracks is finished and then change the idler bracket to whatever setting you wanted. 

So RBaer if your going to do another Tamiya T34 are you going to pick up the Tank Workshop interior (with resin turret included) for the Tamiya kit?

RBaer

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 RBaer:

 

http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff451/rustybaer/SD530049.jpg

 

Russ,

I might be wrong here; but take a look at this track.  It looks to me like there's a bit too much sag before the track meets up with the road wheel.  You might need to take out a link or two?  I'm not 100% though.  See what the experts say.

 

 

I have pulled two links (minimum I can pull due to to different type links) and the track is way too tight, even with the idler moved all the way back, this pic is with the idler all the way forward. I have another T34 in progress, exact same issue. Believe me, I have worked this one. Also, the track appears loose at the front, tight at the rear, because of how I turned the model to get another pic. If I "pose" the tracks with the same slack at the front and rear, it looks a little better. All said and done, I would like them a tad tighter, but with the way the Tamiya idlers are mounted (super simplified, since this was originally a motorized model) this is what I'm stuck with. Tracks this loose are sometimes seen in pics, seems the Russians weren't too picky about it, or had the same issue with the real thing that I did with the model.....yeah, that's it.....

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  • From: Dripping Springs, TX, USA
Posted by RBaer on Tuesday, October 4, 2011 10:54 AM

Mikey, the Tamiya kit doesn't actually use idler brackets, it's a metal axle that runs inside the front of the hull, so I've got a little less to work with. Two links out with the idler all the way back is too tight, and the opposite, as you see, is tracks a bit looser than I like. I have a Maquette kit with more correct idler mounts that I may try on the next one......

The next T34 is another Tamiya kit. I have a stash of them, some for just parts, two in progress. The one furthest along uses the Tamiya turret Model 1943, and the one to be worked on after that I have a resin Uralmesh stamped turret for.

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Posted by Tojo72 on Tuesday, October 4, 2011 11:33 AM

Wow,I have not checked in for awhile,thats looking real good.

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Posted by RBaer on Monday, October 17, 2011 3:18 PM

Thanks, Tojo. Still trying to gut up to do the figs......did get them off the shelf, big step.

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Posted by PANZERWAFFE on Wednesday, October 19, 2011 4:31 PM

Thats looks great!  Like how you have the dirt caked up with different colors of dirt.  Well done Yes

Rob

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Posted by RBaer on Monday, October 24, 2011 12:19 PM

PANZERWAFFE

Thats looks great!  Like how you have the dirt caked up with different colors of dirt.  Well done Yes

Thank you, sir. It was a bunch of fun, especially since I rarely dirty them up that much. Still looking at the box of figs....and remembering how to type......

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Posted by tigerman on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 1:49 AM

Sag or not, it turned out very well.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by russianfist on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 6:22 PM

i just started this same kit a couple weeks ago. almost all oob. havent built a kit in 5 years and i started on this bad boy. lol

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Posted by RBaer on Sunday, October 30, 2011 7:18 PM

Thanks, Eric.  It was fun.

RF, it's a decent kit, good fit for its age.

I did get a better pic or two:

I actually opened the box of figs yesterday.....

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