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Renault UE German Scout Car - Mirage (35307) 1/35

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  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Fort Knox
Posted by Rob Gronovius on Monday, September 19, 2011 7:57 AM

Mirage kit with only a few models under your belt? I bet you're the type who'd like to try to swim the English Channel as a swimming lesson!

A lot of those Eastern European kits are a bear to build. Plenty of rough fits and lots of mix and match sprues. I think that base vehicle is available with no less than a dozen (probably more) different versions created by tossing a set of sprues at it.

I built (or actually "started") the tankette version, AMR-UE, that I got at my local hobby shop 10 years ago for less than $10. They are not for the faint of heart. I gave up on the UE myself when it stopped being fun and relaxing. I wish you all the luck. My kit looked very much like the reference photos you have posted.

  • Member since
    March 2003
  • From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA
Posted by tigerman on Sunday, September 18, 2011 11:12 PM

Welcome David. 

I admire you for tackling something so bizarre as that. That is something I've never seen before. I like where this is going.

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 Eric 

  • Member since
    September 2011
  • From: Iowa
Posted by David Maddog on Sunday, September 18, 2011 9:41 PM

Hey, thanks for the tips!!! These are neat little tanks, I actually have three more on the way in the mail.  The Tamiya kit, there I plan to mount a 3.7cm PaK on top of it like you mentioned, and two more Mirage kits with the wurframen.  When I start a kit I like to do all the variants that are available...call me crazy. 

Your idea for the tow cable is great.  I'll have to admit I didn't know what it was until you mention that.  I bet I could use some small nylon twine to simulate a cable. I've got some PE laying around too I could use for holding it in. 

I really don't look forward to the tracks, if you noticed in one of my shots the injection didn't fill entirely so I am short two links....and there are no spares it appears.  The instructions seem to say I could have 4 or 5 sets of two links on the rear so maybe I will have some to spare.  We'll see.

 

 

  • Member since
    May 2011
Posted by panzerbob01 on Sunday, September 18, 2011 9:08 PM

David:

Hey! COOL!  Welcome to the world of slightly rough east-block renditions of the oh-so-diverse re-used Renault UE! 

I'm a fan of the general type - and have done a few of the Mirage/RPM kits (those with the wurframen, and a base model), and I just picked up the kit with the 3.7cm PaK 35/36 gun mounted on it.  These kits are all pretty much the same - and they are pretty far removed from the Tamiya version.  But I found them actually in some ways pretty good.

It's apparent that you did some homework and accessed some reference pics.  All power to you!  What I might suggest is that you study a few pics of the general type, and maybe choose a few bits to tweak.  I found it pretty enhancing to add a few of the tiny and tinny details around the box, and I replace the tow cable with a wire one with some little metal or styrene clips for holding it onto the front deck. This could be the single biggest boost for the least effort. That, and the heat shield over the exhaust- it was a tinny piece and the kit part looks much better if you seriously thin the visible edges, and do a little scoring with your X-acto tip to create some depth under those pressed-out cooling slots. Check ref pics and note that many panels appear to have distinct thin gaps and seam-lines around them- I found that scoring these and pin-washing made it pop a little more.

The hands-down fiddliest part of these little kits is the trackSad  They are rather crappy.  When you hit those tracks... the length bits are OK - the links are really tiny and don't have much positive connection when you assemble them Crying.... I found that things worked best to fit the painted road gear on, including the sprocket, and then assemble a short run of links for that sprocket by setting the links onto a piece of masking tape (stick them on face down) and applying a little thin cement to the run - let it set several minutes, and then gently lift it off the tape and fit it around the sprocket.  As I like to paint my track off the tank, what I did was to do this set-up, let the run harden in place, and then pull it off the sprocket and let it fully dry. I painted all the lengths and a run for the idler and the sprocket each side, and then re-set them onto the running gear using some super glue. I had to do a tiny amount of touch-up painting to cover the glue, but it worked pretty well. Do take care and look at the attached track runs from front and back... these little tracks do like to twist and tilt, and that is fatal if you put it on a show table! I been thereEmbarrassed  NO T-shirt resulted, either.

The decals are OK - but I pretty much skip those things in favor of spraying crosses on with a template. But that's me.

When you get paint on, maybe keep in mind that these were rear-area airfield vehicles and probably did not have great paint-jobs...!

I look forward to seeing it all done and posted!  Again, COOL and really nice to see someone else getting into these strange but actually fairly common little vehicles!

Bob

 

 

 

 

 

  • Member since
    January 2003
  • From: Washington, DC
Posted by TomZ2 on Sunday, September 18, 2011 8:33 PM

Verrrrrry interesting! Welcome Sign Enjoy some laughs & kick back.

“Modeling is the world that I feel most welcome in.” — Brooke Shields

Occasional factual, grammatical, or spelling variations are inherent to this thesis and should not be considered as defects, as they enhance the individuality and character of this document.

  • Member since
    December 2006
  • From: N. Georgia
Posted by Jester75 on Sunday, September 18, 2011 8:21 PM

Man this thing is just plumb nutty looking! Nice save on the primer.

Eric

 

  • Member since
    September 2011
  • From: Iowa
Posted by David Maddog on Sunday, September 18, 2011 7:41 PM

So in my attempt to remove the priming to fix the bumpy look I managed to break off the MG-34's and the headlights.  I'm not going to reattach the headlights, being most pictures I've seen of the renault didn't have the lights anyways.





  • Member since
    September 2011
  • From: Iowa
Posted by David Maddog on Sunday, September 18, 2011 7:29 PM

I'll have to keep the steel wool in mind.  This is a small model and was hard to get to places with my sanding stick.  I have it primed and it looks like it covered it up pretty well.  However, I managed to mess it up priming because I was too far from the model and the paint dried in the air, giving a dusty bumpy look.  After two tries of priming and easy off over cleaner removal I figured out what I was doing and how to fix it...so these scratches are the least of my problems I guess.  I'm not too happy with how this is going.  Hey, but thanks for the welcome! Yes

  • Member since
    September 2011
  • From: San Diego, California
Posted by GeneralDodonna on Sunday, September 18, 2011 7:02 PM

Wow, that is one crazy looking tank! Definitely have not seen that before! Welcome aboard Maddog!

As far as tips or hints, Keep going, its looking good so far!

-Will

  • Member since
    December 2006
  • From: N. Georgia
Posted by Jester75 on Sunday, September 18, 2011 6:34 PM

Oh, and welcome to the forums!!

Welcome Sign

Eric

 

  • Member since
    December 2006
  • From: N. Georgia
Posted by Jester75 on Sunday, September 18, 2011 6:33 PM

Very interesting vehicle!! I see alot of deeper scratches where it looks like you were sanding with a sanding stick maybe? Not sure if they will show through the finish or not, but I like to knock those deeper scratches down with some steel wool. Be careful with it though, it will remove/soften detail pretty easily.

Look forward to seeing more of it.

Eric

 

  • Member since
    September 2011
  • From: Iowa
Renault UE German Scout Car - Mirage (35307) 1/35
Posted by David Maddog on Sunday, September 18, 2011 6:29 PM

So I've been into modelling for about a year now.  Only have a few kits under my belt.  Please, any hints and tips would be great as I make progress through my builds. 

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