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1/72 Dragon Churchill Mk III (Dieppe 1942)

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Posted by rocker286 on Sunday, November 22, 2015 5:42 PM

That brown really turned out nice! I've been in the same position as you...the whole historial accuracy vs more work dilemma. It's never an easy decision. You did an excellent job though!

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Posted by RX7850 on Monday, November 16, 2015 9:07 PM

Man that looks great so far. You can't tell that there was a color change. It even  looks like it may have added a sense of  depth and shadow. I hope to post up soon with my build. I have been trying to spend an hr. or so a night on it.

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Posted by M. Brindos on Monday, November 16, 2015 7:51 PM

Thak you guys ever so much for the really kind compliments! Duke, I wish I still had all of those old ESCI kits. I'd be updating the crap out of them these days. Some of the Revell kits still bring back old memories too.

I saw some of those Trumpeter kits at the LHS, but since I had no idea what to expect out of the box I barely gave them a passing glance. I will have to pick up one eventually. This kit has made me remember how much I love this scale.  :D

So, you guys want more? Well, okay :D  I did take some crappy pictures of the minimal work that got done earlier this evening. The lighting sucks for pictures but that lamp is great for working under.

A little more progress, but not much. I sorted out the exhausts, MG's, tracks, a little modulation, and a few other minor things.






So when am I going to see more 1/72 work from you guys? Huh? lol

Have a good evening my fellow modeller's.  :)

- Mike Brindos "Lost Boy"

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Posted by RX7850 on Monday, November 16, 2015 6:49 PM

That really is a tough choice , especially after all that work. And might I ad a most adept recovery with the watercolors.  Dragon does make some great kits as well as other manufactures like  Mirage , Revell, Maco and Tumpeter to name a few.  Trumpeter's Sd.kfz 9 and 9/1 series will blow your mind when you open the box.

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Posted by Duke Maddog on Monday, November 16, 2015 5:17 PM

M. Brindos

Thanks Duke!  :D

680 of them?! Yikes! lol

I hope you can get back into building them soon too. They are rather nice and the more reviews I look up the more I'm thinking that Dragon is my new ESCI lol.

Every kit has its downfalls, but they do have some that are just brilliantly detailed and way better than anything else out there. In comparison these Dragon Churchill kits are probably the best being produced in this scale. Definitely worth picking one up.

Although there is not much more to do with this build, its not done yet, so there is more on the way.  :)

 

I agree. Dragon is my new ESCI as well. I built every ESCI kit ever released (except maybe one or two of the hardest ones to find) and I've done at least 3/4ths of all Dragon 1/72 scale armor. I have all their Shermans completed, and almost all their 251 halftracks too. Yeah, they do rock!

My most recent Dragon kit I completed two weeks ago was the M-65 Atomic Annie, so I'm still in the game!

 

I do love the new look on the Churchill with the new brown color. I am flabbergasted at the smooth and consistent color you got from your watercolor wash; that is simply outstanding! Brilliant idea and execution Mike! I can't wait to see more.

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Posted by M. Brindos on Monday, November 16, 2015 2:52 PM

Thanks my friend. It was kinda tough. I mean, it looked cool in Green and I really liked it. But it is supposed to be brown and I spent a lot of time considering it. When I woke up this morning I decided to go for it and it turned out alright.

I still don't like it as much as i did when it was Green, but this is what it should look like.

I'm sure I'll feel better about it after I get the details painted and do the weathering. Once it's on the base it'll look right, I'm sure.

PM me an email buddy. I have all of these 728 pics I need to send to you.  :)

- Mike Brindos "Lost Boy"

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Posted by Pawel on Monday, November 16, 2015 2:30 PM

Mike - congratualtions! It must have been a tough decision, but I believe it was the right one. It takes some cojones to sacrifice some work already done in the name of historical accuracy, but I respect the people to do that! And the model is still looking good, so good luck with your build and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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Posted by M. Brindos on Sunday, November 15, 2015 7:53 PM

I've just learned that Dragon is releasing a Mk III AVRE with the 290mm petard Mortar this month.  :)

One step closer to a bridge layer!

I've contacted them about a sample for review. I hope I can get one  :D

http://www.dragonmodelsusa.com/dmlusa/prodd.asp?pid=DRA7327

- Mike Brindos "Lost Boy"

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Posted by M. Brindos on Sunday, November 15, 2015 6:47 PM

Thanks Duke!  :D

680 of them?! Yikes! lol

I hope you can get back into building them soon too. They are rather nice and the more reviews I look up the more I'm thinking that Dragon is my new ESCI lol.

Every kit has its downfalls, but they do have some that are just brilliantly detailed and way better than anything else out there. In comparison these Dragon Churchill kits are probably the best being produced in this scale. Definitely worth picking one up.

Although there is not much more to do with this build, its not done yet, so there is more on the way.  :)

- Mike Brindos "Lost Boy"

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Posted by Duke Maddog on Sunday, November 15, 2015 6:31 PM

M. Brindos

Oh yeah. I used to exclusively model in this scale and I miss ESCI kits. I've never liked the rubber band tracks and I always avoided any kits with them, so ESCI was my preferred brand of choice back in the day.

Usually I don't build the entire kit before painting, but this time it almost seemed unavoidable because of those tracks. As I stated earlier I didn't trust those DS tracks to stick to anything but raw plastic so I took the chance I'd figure it out later, and I did lol.

I think I'd still rather prefer building in this scale. Especially after this one has gone by so fast lol.

Thank you for commenting my friend.  :)

 

 

 

Hey Mike, I still exclusively build in 1/72 scale and only stopped for two years. Right now I've completed 680 of the little models and have more coming down the pike. I'll build the while tank before painting it. I typically leave the tracks off until the end; painting them seperately. Then I add everything together before weathering.

 

Your Churchill is coming along nicely. Very clean and sharp looking model. I'm hoping to pick one of these up someday soon. Keep up the great work, I'm looking forward to seeing more!

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Posted by M. Brindos on Saturday, November 14, 2015 5:42 PM

Oh yeah. I used to exclusively model in this scale and I miss ESCI kits. I've never liked the rubber band tracks and I always avoided any kits with them, so ESCI was my preferred brand of choice back in the day.

Usually I don't build the entire kit before painting, but this time it almost seemed unavoidable because of those tracks. As I stated earlier I didn't trust those DS tracks to stick to anything but raw plastic so I took the chance I'd figure it out later, and I did lol.

I think I'd still rather prefer building in this scale. Especially after this one has gone by so fast lol.

Thank you for commenting my friend.  :)

 

- Mike Brindos "Lost Boy"

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Posted by Pawel on Saturday, November 14, 2015 4:27 PM

Hello Mike!

That Churchill is looking really nice!

As for painting the tracks on the model - most of the time it can be done, and it's easier than you'd think - of course it's advisable to do some thinking before building and painting.

Sometimes it's good to paint everything black or dark gray and then paint the outer details. In this case, what you can't reach with a brush, should probably stay dark anyhow - problem solved!

Nice and quick build - ain't the 1:72 scale lovable? And to think some 20 years ago there were very little armor kits in that scale, after ESCI disappeared from the market. Good for us it's all coming back now!

Thanks for sharing and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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Posted by M. Brindos on Saturday, November 14, 2015 12:10 PM

Well, that's a good question. I had to figure that out for myself after I glued the tracks on.

What I ended up doing is flowing some of the track color into the deeper areas around the sprockets after thinning down the paint. The tracks aren't glued to the lower bogie wheels so I just pulled the tracks out of the way and brushed the color on for the lower parts.

Anywhere I got a little bit of paint of wash where I didn't want it I Used a small, clean brush to wipe it away before it could dry.

 

- Mike Brindos "Lost Boy"

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Posted by Dolphin24 on Saturday, November 14, 2015 8:09 AM

looks great. How could you paint the tracks while on the model and still get unreachable areas

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Posted by M. Brindos on Saturday, November 14, 2015 12:02 AM

Thanks Allan. I blame Dragon for making it a nicely detailed kit to work with lol. It was my goal from the begining to intentionally blur the lines between scale. We'll have to see if I can really pull it off though. ;)

- Mike Brindos "Lost Boy"

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Posted by allan on Friday, November 13, 2015 11:56 PM

Thats impressive work. Hard to believe its in 1/72.

No bucks, no Buck Rogers

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Posted by M. Brindos on Friday, November 13, 2015 10:59 PM

Thank you.  :)  Unfortunately I just found out that it really should be brown, and not green. The SCC-2 Brown is really the correct color the instructions call for, but its an ugly color and I wanted it to be green anyways lol.

Its a good little kit, but like usual, Dragon got a few details wrong. But I find that to be a fun thing to fix and it makes the building process more interesting anyways.

If you've been thinking of building this one, then go for it. It does make up an attractive little tank (even when its the wrong color lol).

- Mike Brindos "Lost Boy"

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Posted by rocker286 on Friday, November 13, 2015 10:27 PM

Excellent job on this Churchill! I've been thinking about buying this kit, it's nice to see what it looks like all built up!

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Posted by M. Brindos on Friday, November 13, 2015 9:08 PM

Actually, Razzie, the Tamiya Acrylics are new to me, but I love them! I picked up a bottle of X-20A acrylic thinner and they work like a dream through the Neo.  :D

Thank you  Gamera! It's looking even better now  ;)

Update time! ***********************************************

Wow, I got a lot done in a day.

Alrighty, let me begin lol. I started a little modulation for the overall paint scheme by mixing up some Khaki (XF-49) with the Khaki Drab to make a mid tone and then mixed a bit more Khaki and a touch of NATO Green (XF-67) for a tinge of green in the highlights.



Which didn't look too spectacular at first.




But after a green wash from Vallejo (#512 Dark Green) it blended pretty well.




I painted the tracks with Vallejo Black-Brown (#822 German Camo Black Brown) and gave them an AK Interactive track wash (AK 083)



Then I gave the entire model a gloss (Vallejo 70.510 Gloss Varnish) before starting the decals.



In the picture below, you can see that I had to cut the decals to get them into position. Also, since I lack any real decal solutions (Testors sucks) I used a touch of Liquid Cement to get them to conform. This is the first time I've ever used any decals made by Cartographer and they are really, really nice decals. But as you can see the LC ate them up pretty badly. Not much of a worry for me as I'm used to this happening anyways.



I usually use the LC trick for the decals on my armor because it lends itself to looking like it's been painted on and I like that look on my armor. I just get out the artist's acrylics and spot repair. However, these Cartographer decals didn't need any LC when they were applied to a flat surface, and thank goodness too, because the LC would've destroyed them little suckers lol.

Anyways, I persevered as always and sprayed another cote of gloss over the decals before using an AK Interactive wash for NATO vehicles (black wash) to pin wash in some of the details, such as hatches and panel lines.

After that I used Vallejo Matte Varnish to seal it all up.






Now all that is left is the detail painting and some touch-ups before a tiny bit of weathering. Maybe even a tiny bit of chipping, but these vehicles were relatively new and were well maintained before being dropped off as cannon fodder.

That's all for today. I think I'll let it all rest a while before moving on again lol.

Happy modelling, Gentlemen!!  :D

- Mike Brindos "Lost Boy"

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, November 13, 2015 4:56 PM

Looking good Mike!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Razzie43 on Friday, November 13, 2015 5:32 AM

Hi Mike ,what a small fantastic tank model u got here...

i see your still like tamiya painting :)

you gonna use the shades on this one?

 

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Posted by M. Brindos on Thursday, November 12, 2015 5:00 PM

I was just given the perfect references over on Armorama!

There's a photo of 'Blossom' here still on the beach:
http://www.ramtank.ca/churchill%20registry%202b.htm

Also colour photo here which you've possibly already seen:
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/world-war-two/weapons-of-world-war-two/churchill-tank/

 

Absolutley perfect! :D

- Mike Brindos "Lost Boy"

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Posted by M. Brindos on Wednesday, November 11, 2015 5:17 PM

Personally, I think I'm going to keep the molded-on tow cables. I know, I know, they look like poo. That is the one detail I really wish Dragon would have included as a separate part, but I'm not going to invest the time to fix that mistake. Not this time anyways. I am really liking the time this has NOT taken up to get this far into it lol. I'm almost ready for paint and it's been, what, a week?

After some paint it won't look too bad I hope, but yes, I know it drags down the overall feel of the build. Next time.

- Mike Brindos "Lost Boy"

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Posted by RX7850 on Wednesday, November 11, 2015 5:01 PM

Those weld beads really make it pop. Should really do  justice to the build when it's done. Just curious if you are going to keep the molded on tow cables or replace them. 

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Posted by M. Brindos on Wednesday, November 11, 2015 2:14 PM

No I didn't know about Prime Portal. I'll have to check into that.

As far as this build is concerned I've already moved past the building stage and I've got primer on it now.

For those of you who have been wondering if simulating weld seams on a 1/72 model will even bother showing up after paint, well it shows up just fine after primer and I'm pretty confident it will still show up after painting is complete. As long as I keep the paint thin lol.

I added the last of the parts that needed to go on and thinned those front fender walls down so they wouldn't touch the tracks. I played with the idea of completely rebuilding them from scratch, but there are some fine details on there that would be easier to save by just thinning down the kit parts.

The antennas were rebuilt just this morning after I squished them by accident earlier. The rebuilds look better anyways.

I also added a few tiny details to the top of the turret so it didn't look quite so flat.

So now the real fun begins. :D

Have a great day Gentlemen!

- Mike Brindos "Lost Boy"

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Posted by RX7850 on Tuesday, November 10, 2015 7:02 PM

Looking good as usual. Yeah I kinda know what you mean, I'm having a bit of difficulty finding good accurate info. for my build a 1942 T 34 /76 with applique armor. Anyway have you by chance looked into Prime Portal . They have walk arounds  of eight Churchill variants including two MKIIIs. Carry on....

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