POLL / SURVEY: please respond!!

Stik, interesting video you linked there, I enjoyed it. 

Seems people both inside and outside the hobby don't consider scale modeling as art.  Maybe the column choice from the opening post, that people are to place themselves in, should be either accurate or hyperrealism?

regards,

Jack

I personally do not consider my work art. But friends and acquaintences who have seen my hobby work do. And yet there sure is artistry in well built and finished models made by other folks that I see. A bit contradictory I suppose.

Not contradictory at all. I think it's just a hisitorically culture perception of what an artist is, Van Gogh, Rembrandt, etc. I posted my definition earlier and if I could figure out cutting and pasting here I would've included it. But our endeavors here certainly fall under the activity of art. Plus I've seen your work and modesty might be involved. Believe me, I have nil in artistic ability, I flunked stick people ( no offense !) , but here I am a practicing artist. Go figure.

Wow, drop off the grid for a while and I come back to fun stuff...... I'm an "accuracy over art" kind of modeler, as a general rule, and use washes, both detail and over-all, pastels and powders, and very minor chipping if appropriate. Rust is no-no unless I 'm building a derelict. And that's all I have to say about that. For now.

But upon further contemplation, I use the same techniques in modeling that are found in "art", specifically painting. Well okay then.

Again, I appreciate everyone's responses---I've learned a lot and am writing up my article now. Not going to post the body of it here with my "conclusions" so that it's "fresh" if it gets published. :) Thanks again for everyone weighing in!!!

Karl i've never really thought about what I am other than being just me and my hobby.

I do try to give each model a different look from all the others I build just to fend off bordom. This is my last build and it has a different finish from all the rest on the shelf.

 

Some of you folks have seen enough of my SPGs so where do I fit?

 

Great Thread btw

Tony lee

I LOVE that model, Tony! Nice job on it! What a rare beast! I just ordered one!

Thanks for your input!

OK old buddy, you know where I am....accuracy. Now with that said the hobby is an art and we build our models in our studio. I will use some of the artistic methods to try to enhance the accuracy of what I am building.

With that said, I have spent way too much time on the 1 to 1 and their paint does not "modulate".

Now, like music modeling comes in many different variations from folk, rock to classical. Now there are always some genares a person does not like, but many others that are liked or at least appreciated. Sometimes it just does not fit like Karl playing folk music!

Hope that helps

Rounds Complete!!

 

What a fun thread to follow. My skills generally come down to glueing something together that I was on, or in and spraying it OD when done! Well except for the tires. I prefer realism. If you're gonna have mud on an APC's tracks in RVN some colors just don't get it. Some reds do. I think many folks may get their detail idea from photos online under certain circumstances. I know from 105 crews and a short time in battery that those howitzers were often pampered, shined, and cleaned and showed off like a new car. The last couple months I got to skate hauling ammo to FSB's. That darn 5ton was MY truck and when I had the chance I'd pull into a stream, wash it and follow up later with a nice coating of diesel fuel over everything for that showroom shine! lol. As far as rust, on equipment, I can't say it was non existent but I can't say I remember it either.

redleg12

OK old buddy, you know where I am....accuracy. Now with that said the hobby is an art and we build our models in our studio. I will use some of the artistic methods to try to enhance the accuracy of what I am building.

With that said, I have spent way too much time on the 1 to 1 and their paint does not "modulate".

Now, like music modeling comes in many different variations from folk, rock to classical. Now there are always some genares a person does not like, but many others that are liked or at least appreciated. Sometimes it just does not fit like Karl playing folk music!

Hope that helps

Rounds Complete!!

 

 

Thanks for weighing in, Mike!!! Nice to see you looking in from time to time! :)

GlennH

What a fun thread to follow. My skills generally come down to glueing something together that I was on, or in and spraying it OD when done! Well except for the tires. I prefer realism. If you're gonna have mud on an APC's tracks in RVN some colors just don't get it. Some reds do. I think many folks may get their detail idea from photos online under certain circumstances. I know from 105 crews and a short time in battery that those howitzers were often pampered, shined, and cleaned and showed off like a new car. The last couple months I got to skate hauling ammo to FSB's. That darn 5ton was MY truck and when I had the chance I'd pull into a stream, wash it and follow up later with a nice coating of diesel fuel over everything for that showroom shine! lol. As far as rust, on equipment, I can't say it was non existent but I can't say I remember it either.

 

Thanks, Glenn----good to hear from another "Accurist" who has had actual time with these vehicles and sees them the way they saw them in real life. I think that's an important component of that particular stylistic choice. :)

You know, I've never considered that Airmen, Soldiers, Sailors, Marines would take time cleaning and detailing equipment to take pride and kill time. I should've. I remember hours wiping the sand off of helicopters, just because there wasn't anything else to do. Semper Fi, Chris

I was sitting at the bench the other day and got to thinking about this thread. I know the issue is about artistic vs realistic finishes on vehicle models and it seems to be somewhat centered around the way light plays on the surfaces. It looks like some didn't think the lighting didn't need to be accentuated on the surfaces where there would be more sunlight hitting vs painting areas like under sponsons and such a bit darker. After all, isn't it a 3 dimensional model and it will cast it's own shadows and lightened areas? That's the part that got me thinking. Would some say the same for a figure model? It's 3 dimensional as well, right? Don't the best figure painters darken the recesses of the folds in the uniform and highlight the top edges where light hits it? Is that realistic or artistic? Why would it be acceptable as realistic on figures to highlight and darken but not on vehicles? Maybe the vehicles are a larger canvas and easier to see? LOL, just a bit of food for thought to gnaw on! Me I just paint and finish what looks good to me and try a few different approaches. LOL, some with disasterous results!