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Bronoco M-24 Chaffee - Early Production (35069) 1/35

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  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Monday, April 3, 2017 6:39 AM

Good to see you sticking with it. It does sound like they have taken Dragons worst bits and taken them a few steps further. One thing that annoys me is when you have a loads of parts for the running gear, such as bump stops, axel arms etc and then slap great big road wheels in front of them.

I think your right, its just so they can use the parts count as a selling point.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

  • Member since
    October 2010
  • From: Rockford, IL
Posted by AlanF on Sunday, April 2, 2017 8:02 PM

I didn't get much done this week and what I did was an exercise in frustration. There is such a thing a over-engineering where parts are created solely for the purpose of saying there are tons of parts.  That's not good design.  For instance the hull has one piece where the turret goes but then the remainder of the hull is divided into 6 small parts.  There is no reason for this and it makes for a weak upper hull. Crazy, but I'm working with it.

The hull fits inside the bottom tub.  Not exactly great since the fit is very, very tight and you have to stretch the hull apart and pry the top in. However, the instructions had you put all kinds of tiny bits on BEFORE. Ouch. Not a good combo. Also, try putting in  3 pieces that stretch across the hull with no good attachment points. Wow. Challenging.  I have 3 more to go.

So, I spent a good amount of time trying to fit the upper hull in, re-gluing some small tiny bits that fell off during the process, making parts that got lost to the great carpet monster we all dread, and filling in gaps and elevation misalignments. It's a good learning experience.  I think it will be one of those kits that after you finish, you will want to buy another to do it right now that you know all the pitfalls.

Notice the green part that was frabricated from a "spare" part.  It's not perfect, but not all that bad either.

Slowly but surely I plod on.

Thanks for all the comments and encouragement.

  • Member since
    January 2007
Posted by the doog on Tuesday, March 28, 2017 4:37 PM

Best way to learn is to dive into it! Looks like you're learning! :)

 

  • Member since
    September 2005
  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Tuesday, March 28, 2017 9:50 AM

In spite of the difficulty, it must be better than the old Italeri kit!

Bill Morrison

  • Member since
    December 2015
  • From: providence ,r.i.
Posted by templar1099 on Monday, March 27, 2017 5:07 PM

AlanF
In fact, I would say that this kit is way over-engineered and not in a particularly good way. For example the headlight guards are 4 small pieces - seriously! And the suspension system is a nightmare of small parts and tiny attachment points which makes me doubt the overall stability of the drive train, but here we go anyway.


As I'm currently trying to finish a Bronco MPCV I understand your trepidation, it is well warranted. In my case it was over-reach, I'm watching to see a better builder than myself tackle one of their kits,go to it.

"le plaisir delicieux et toujours nouveau d'une occupation inutile"

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Monday, March 27, 2017 11:17 AM

Good luck with her, looks good so far. 

I bought one a couple years ago and haven't had the guts to tackle it. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Rifle, CO. USA
Posted by M1GarandFan on Monday, March 27, 2017 11:12 AM

I did this one a couple of years ago, and yeah; it was a pain at times. You're right that the suspension is a little unstable and delicate. Those little pins molded as bolts are details taken to the extreme, imho. The tracks take awhile but seem to work real nice in the end. This was my first one with PE, and I did a lot of complaining on this forum about it. I didn't even attempt the PE headlight guards and went with the plastic ones instead. I never could get the latches for the driver and bog hatches in their respective spots. I'm sure you'll do fine with this, but it does take some patience. Good luck with it.

  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Monday, March 27, 2017 2:14 AM

Nice subject and off to a good start. From reading your comments, it sounds like its not just the figures they have taken from Dragon.Seems like they have taken on Dragon engineering and instructions as well.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

  • Member since
    March 2003
  • From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA
Posted by tigerman on Monday, March 27, 2017 1:51 AM

Off to a good start on a cool subject.

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 Eric 

  • Member since
    October 2010
  • From: Rockford, IL
Bronoco M-24 Chaffee - Early Production (35069) 1/35
Posted by AlanF on Sunday, March 26, 2017 4:29 PM

Next project - Bronoco M-24 Chaffee - Early Production.

 

This is my 4th tank and a big step up in complexity. There are no rubber band tracks and the part count is significantly higher. In fact, I would say that this kit is way over-engineered and not in a particularly good way. For example the headlight guards are 4 small pieces - seriously! And the suspension system is a nightmare of small parts and tiny attachment points which makes me doubt the overall stability of the drive train, but here we go anyway.

Box and instructions

The instructions look detailed and are in a very nice glossy book but that is deceptive. The attachment points are sometimes guesses and there are no pictures showing how the completed part is supposed to look. Sigh.

The tub is started and went together without issue.

However, the suspension was a pain. I did one side according to the instructions, which was a bad idea. My recommendation would be to glue in the pins on each part (they say not too but good luck with that) and then do the assembly on the body, not beforehand or you are going to have alignment issues. At least I did.

The second side went in better.

More to come. Remember, I still consider myself a novice with armor and all this could be the norm, but it is very different from the other 3 kits I put together. If this all aligns well, it will be a minor miracle! But I am having fun with it.

 

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