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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, August 16, 2017 5:09 PM

Thanks guys.

Chris, i think a tank done like this only looks right in its proper setting, so hopefully it will match right in.

Griffin, after spraying the mortar, i went over the bricks with a flat brush. I then went over some individual bricks altering the colour.

Its a lot easier than what i did last time, which was to spray the bricks then hand brush the mortar.

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Posted by Griffin25 on Wednesday, August 16, 2017 4:59 PM

That's looking really good. That building is awesome. Did you paint each brick individually? It looks like it. Very cool.

 

 

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Posted by Got Plastic? on Wednesday, August 16, 2017 4:48 PM

Bish - 

Truely an outstanding job!! The detailing effects pop right out and grab your eyes. Wonderful work on both the tank and building. I'll be watching for your final presentation of this well executed dio. Bow Down

Chris

 

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, August 16, 2017 2:37 PM

Getting close to the end now. The tank and building are done. Just got to finish the figures and bring it all together.

So, first the tank. Some light streaking with AK streak effects were followed by the kit going on. I got a set of value Gear boxes and added a backpack and Jerry cans.

Next some AK dust efefcts. I used dark earth colours lwer down and added light dust effects higher up. As soon as this was done i removed the effects from around the wheels and areas where thye crew would have climbed and brushed dust away.

And then finally some pigments. dark earth colours were applied lw down by mixing in water and slapping it on. Once dry excess was removed. Lighter colours were added higher up followe by brick and concrete pigments all over.

I do need to add some rope that would hold down the equipment, and bare metal for the teeth on the drive sprockets. But other than that, its done.

And then the building. Firstly i needed to add grass around the outside. I used a mix of scatters and grass tufs of different lengths and colours.

And then the rubble. I start with a core of uncolured celluclay. Then while wet add bricks, debris and brick dust. This is built up over several days so as not to pile in to much at once.

Once the vehicle is in place i can add a bit more around it. But for now thats it. Now i can focus on the figures and get this wrapped.

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Posted by Got Plastic? on Thursday, August 10, 2017 10:00 AM

Gamera

I picked up a copy of the dio book back in the late '80s. I've read it cover to cover at least a dozen times, it's all worn, dog-eared, and has a few paint splatters on it now... 

 

Gamera - 

That is so cool you have that book. I wish I had the copy I spent hours as a 14 year old looking at. Yes sir, I would hold on to that treasure. My other favorite was "Modeling Tanks and Military Vehicles"(1982-'83).

Chris

 

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, August 9, 2017 11:10 AM

I picked up a copy of the dio book back in the late '80s. I've read it cover to cover at least a dozen times, it's all worn, dog-eared, and has a few paint splatters on it now... 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Got Plastic? on Wednesday, August 9, 2017 11:04 AM

Bish

 

 
Got Plastic?

 

 
Bish

I will second that about Mr Paine. He wrte a book which i think you can still buy through FSM, the btitle of which escapes me but i will check to tonight, which is deffinetly worth a look.

And if i can help in anyway, i will do my best.

 

 

 

The last one from FSM I think was Shep Paine's "Armor Modelers Guide". The one I remeber the most was "How to build a Diorama" (1980 or 1981). That was such a great book to look at as a boy.

 

 

 

 

Yep, thats the one. I only ended up getting a copy of that a couple of years ago. Wish i had got it sooner, would have saved me a lot of trial and error. Big Smile

 

LOL good ol' trial and error...woulda,coulda, shoulda as the old saying goesBig Smile. I wish I would have gained all of my grandfather's scale modeling books from the decades he spent scale model railroading and scale models. He had a nice library of "how-to" and informative books.

Chris

 

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, August 9, 2017 9:04 AM

Got Plastic?

 

 
Bish

I will second that about Mr Paine. He wrte a book which i think you can still buy through FSM, the btitle of which escapes me but i will check to tonight, which is deffinetly worth a look.

And if i can help in anyway, i will do my best.

 

 

 

The last one from FSM I think was Shep Paine's "Armor Modelers Guide". The one I remeber the most was "How to build a Diorama" (1980 or 1981). That was such a great book to look at as a boy.

 

 

Yep, thats the one. I only ended up getting a copy of that a couple of years ago. Wish i had got it sooner, would have saved me a lot of trial and error. Big Smile

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Got Plastic? on Wednesday, August 9, 2017 8:29 AM

Bish

I will second that about Mr Paine. He wrte a book which i think you can still buy through FSM, the btitle of which escapes me but i will check to tonight, which is deffinetly worth a look.

And if i can help in anyway, i will do my best.

 

The last one from FSM I think was Shep Paine's "Armor Modelers Guide". The one I remeber the most was "How to build a Diorama" (1980 or 1981). That was such a great book to look at as a boy.

Chris

 

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, August 9, 2017 2:05 AM

I will second that about Mr Paine. He wrte a book which i think you can still buy through FSM, the btitle of which escapes me but i will check to tonight, which is deffinetly worth a look.

And if i can help in anyway, i will do my best.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Got Plastic? on Tuesday, August 8, 2017 4:08 PM

Bish

Thanks Chris. I got into Dio's in the 80's after getting the monogram 48th B-17G and seeing pics of Shep Paines crashed B-17 Diorama. About 90% of my builds are dio's, both aircrfat and armour. For me, getting the composition right is the key. But at times i like to go for an orientation thats out of the norm. A lot of people would have had the building behind the E-100 to give it a backdrop. But i made the front the narrow end so your looking down the barrel with the vehicle framing the figures.

It also leads people to look round into the back of the house.

Just play with your layout until your happy with it.

 

That is the route I want to get to where most my builds are dio based. Accurate yes...but sometimes outside the box brings light to your subject. As stated, the above dio was well thought and built. And as far as Mr. Paines B-17 dio....I can't count how many times I just sat and reviewed the photos of that dio. Mr. Paine is definitely one of this century's greatest scale model artist. 

When the time comes I would love to pick your brian about dio's.

Chris

 

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, August 8, 2017 3:45 PM

Thanks Chris. I got into Dio's in the 80's after getting the monogram 48th B-17G and seeing pics of Shep Paines crashed B-17 Diorama. About 90% of my builds are dio's, both aircrfat and armour. For me, getting the composition right is the key. But at times i like to go for an orientation thats out of the norm. A lot of people would have had the building behind the E-100 to give it a backdrop. But i made the front the narrow end so your looking down the barrel with the vehicle framing the figures.

It also leads people to look round into the back of the house.

Just play with your layout until your happy with it.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Got Plastic? on Tuesday, August 8, 2017 3:32 PM

Bish

Thanks Chris. The building is plaster but ready made, come from a company in the UK called Great North Roads. Its the second of there i have used and the best plaster buildings i have tried.

This was the first one i used last year, my first proper urban dio, so i'll be taking what i learnt doing that and hopfeully improving on it.

But making my own buildings is somthing i plan on trying at some point in the future.

 

Wow Bish, that is a beautiful dio...well thoughtout, planned and built. Great detail. I look forward to doing dio's. It is one of the main reason's for getting into scale modeling. Thank you for sharing your build. Top Notch sir!

Chris

 

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, August 8, 2017 9:20 AM

Thanks Razzle, if it turns out anything like the E-100 i'll be happy. Its getting there.

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Posted by Razzie43 on Tuesday, August 8, 2017 9:02 AM

Like that E-100 jagdpz alot.

Love the weathering on it,i hope your pzII become the same..

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Posted by Bish on Monday, August 7, 2017 1:47 PM

Thanks Chris. The building is plaster but ready made, come from a company in the UK called Great North Roads. Its the second of there i have used and the best plaster buildings i have tried.

This was the first one i used last year, my first proper urban dio, so i'll be taking what i learnt doing that and hopfeully improving on it.

But making my own buildings is somthing i plan on trying at some point in the future.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Got Plastic? on Monday, August 7, 2017 10:42 AM

Bish,

Great build subject. Your work on the armor and the blownout factory are solid. Beautiful job sir. Did you cast the factory from a lite plastor or foam? The detail is outstanding.

Chris

 

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Posted by Bish on Monday, August 7, 2017 5:15 AM

JohanT

Hello Bish,
How do you mean, " the paint reacted to the white spirits"
Not quite sure what I am looking for?

Thank you for sharing!

Johan 

 

It blistered up, like the effect you get when useing paint stripper.

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Posted by JohanT on Monday, August 7, 2017 4:51 AM

Hello Bish,
How do you mean, " the paint reacted to the white spirits"
Not quite sure what I am looking for?

Thank you for sharing!

Johan 

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Posted by Bish on Monday, August 7, 2017 4:21 AM

Thanks for the comments guys.

blackdog, when i did the E-100 last year, i was just learning as i went along with the building. But i was happy with it so i'll try and go into more detail on the progress on this one. Most of the comments i have had on that build have been about the building and rubble.hopefulkly ican carry it on with this one.

And ye, i like the early war stuff as well. I think it tends to get over looked, i know i do.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Bish on Monday, August 7, 2017 4:17 AM

disastermaster

 

 
Bish

 

 
disastermaster
 
disastermaster

This paint job should be interesting.

Save

 
Yes, this paint job is interesting.
 
I use acrylic future for a glosscoat ~ never gives me a problem.
                                               http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b232/gluetank/Animated/th_Disastermastermotion-3.gif?t=1303709089

Thanks DM, ye, is a bit different.

I only had problems with future a couple of times and i know that was user error. Which is why i can't figure out whats going on here, not 3 kits in a row. And each time i have been getting more careful about applying the Alclad. And it only happens in small areas.

 

Check below for some interesting suggestions.

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/tools_techniques_and_reference_materials/f/18/t/165803.aspx

                                                           http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b232/gluetank/Animated/th_Disastermastermotion-3.gif?t=1303709089

 

Thanks DM, will check that out.

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Posted by Mopar Madness on Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:20 PM

Wow, that bombed out building is superb!  Excellent attention to detail with the demolished brick and mortar. 

Chad

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Posted by blackdog62 on Sunday, August 6, 2017 7:46 PM

Hi bish looks like I have missed  this 1 everything looks great.

Im planing somthing like this for my stug4 build. Nothing at this lvl though. Im sure to learn somthing here. Thank for sharing pluss i really enjoy the early war panzers. 

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, August 6, 2017 7:23 PM

Bish: Great job there on the panzer and figures but I really love the building. I too think the brickwork came out really well. Yes

 

Sucks about the gloss finish. Funny, I've used several glosses and never had issues with any of them, it's the final matte coat that gave me fits. Until I started using the Alclad product from the same line as the one that is acting up on you. Tongue Tied

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Posted by disastermaster on Sunday, August 6, 2017 5:34 PM

Bish

 

 
disastermaster
 
disastermaster

This paint job should be interesting.

Save

 
Yes, this paint job is interesting.
 
I use acrylic future for a glosscoat ~ never gives me a problem.
                                               http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b232/gluetank/Animated/th_Disastermastermotion-3.gif?t=1303709089

Thanks DM, ye, is a bit different.

I only had problems with future a couple of times and i know that was user error. Which is why i can't figure out whats going on here, not 3 kits in a row. And each time i have been getting more careful about applying the Alclad. And it only happens in small areas.

Check below for some interesting suggestions.

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/tools_techniques_and_reference_materials/f/18/t/165803.aspx

                                                           http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b232/gluetank/Animated/th_Disastermastermotion-3.gif?t=1303709089

 https://i.imgur.com/LjRRaV1.png

 

 

 
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Posted by Bish on Sunday, August 6, 2017 6:20 AM

templar1099
 
Bish
Which is why i can't figure out whats going on here, not 3 kits in a row. And each time i have been getting more careful about applying the Alclad. And it only happens in small areas.

 


Wondering if the 3 kits had anything in common? I've haven't used alcad but have found on a few kits that I too have had adhesion problems in small areas that I figured to be problems in the plastic itself.

 

Not that i can figure. One was Tamiya, one Trumpeter and this one Dragon. All painted with Xtracolour enamels. 2 in the 3 colour scheme and this in grey.

Funny thing is, the first time i used it, on an Italeri kit, it was fine. But the 3 since i have had problems. And on this one, it happened on one of the side bins, which is PE.

But after what you have just said, it has me woundering if its down to my handling. I don't wear gloves when i model, i am woundering if the Alclad is reacting to somthing from my fingurs left on small spots of the model after painting. My next armour build won't be until the start of next yera, but i wil make a note of that and be sure to wear clean gloves when handling, see what happens.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by templar1099 on Sunday, August 6, 2017 6:10 AM

Bish
Which is why i can't figure out whats going on here, not 3 kits in a row. And each time i have been getting more careful about applying the Alclad. And it only happens in small areas.


Wondering if the 3 kits had anything in common? I've haven't used alcad but have found on a few kits that I too have had adhesion problems in small areas that I figured to be problems in the plastic itself.

"le plaisir delicieux et toujours nouveau d'une occupation inutile"

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, August 6, 2017 4:55 AM

disastermaster
 
disastermaster

This paint job should be interesting.

Save

 

 

 
Yes, this paint job is interesting.
 
I use acrylic future for a glosscoat ~ never gives me a problem.
                                               http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b232/gluetank/Animated/th_Disastermastermotion-3.gif?t=1303709089
 

Thanks DM, ye, is a bit different.

I only had problems with future a couple of times and i know that was user error. Which is why i can't figure out whats going on here, not 3 kits in a row. And each time i have been getting more careful about applying the Alclad. And it only happens in small areas.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, August 6, 2017 4:53 AM

plasticjunkie

The building looks great Bish. I like to use unscented crushed kitty litter for rubble. What will you be using?

 

Thanks PJ. I'll use unpainted celluclay as the core of the rubble and then add bricks and various bits of debry along with brick and cement dust. Being only my second building dio.i'l be taking what i did on the E-100 dio and trying to improve on that.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by disastermaster on Sunday, August 6, 2017 12:33 AM

disastermaster

This paint job should be interesting.

Save

 

 
Yes, this paint job is interesting.
 
I use acrylic future for a glosscoat ~ never gives me a problem.
                                               http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b232/gluetank/Animated/th_Disastermastermotion-3.gif?t=1303709089

 https://i.imgur.com/LjRRaV1.png

 

 

 
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