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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, September 4, 2017 7:27 PM

Well, I did get some bench time in today. I began adding parts to the top deck- some fender braces, the side armor beneath the turret ring, and some engine deck hatches

 

 

I also painted the lower hull sides and road wheels using Mission Models Faded Russian Olive, and then I assembled the lower track runs and formed them to the running gear. So far, so good...

 

 

 

Hopefully I can get more bench time in tomorrow...

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, August 31, 2017 6:26 PM

It was indeed. Something like 200,000 Warsaw Pact troops were involved. And my take is that they used the lessons learned from Hungary 1956 as a guide. The vehicles were distinctly marked in case of combat, and there was no half hearted first attempt. It was not "bloodless" as characterized by some, but casualties on both sides were minimal.

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, August 31, 2017 6:10 PM

I was away at Boy Scout camp at the time, but I always followed the news.

 

So I heard about it when we returned to civilization. It seemed to be a full scale Soviet Invasion.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, August 31, 2017 5:27 PM

Thank you my friend. I think in the West, this is a long forgotten event now, along with Hungary in 1956. 

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, August 31, 2017 5:22 PM

Way cool subject. 

But I really liked using Friuls on my Tiran 5. That long free return run hung down just right.

As for the AA, a couple of sites say it came back "after 1970". The reason for not having it sounds like what you said- useless against jets.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, August 31, 2017 4:56 PM

Bish

GRUNTs are much better at brute force and sweat Wink

Finesse however is another matter.

 

Finesse is only required for precision shooting on occasion... well, I suppose on the controls of certain anti tank missiles too... a very light touch there

 

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, August 31, 2017 1:08 PM

GRUNTs are much better at brute force and sweat Wink

Finesse however is another matter.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, August 31, 2017 1:06 PM

Bish, I honestly can't say which has more effort involved, scale tracks or the real ones.... LOL! One certainly requires more muscle, brute force, and sweat, while the other requires more fine motor skills and finesse. 

And yes, on those pin marks... my ESCI T-55s we're bad for that! Angry

 

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, August 31, 2017 9:14 AM

Bish

 

 
Gamera

Bish: Lol, and I guess you don't need to handle them with tweezers!

SP: That's great to hear. I've had to fill and sand pin marks in each and every track link with some kits- well isn't a hobby supposed to be fun and stress relieving!?!?! Indifferent

 

 

 

Certainly not, but use of a sledge hammer is highly recomended.

 

Lol, sounds about right! 

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, August 31, 2017 7:59 AM

Gamera

Bish: Lol, and I guess you don't need to handle them with tweezers!

SP: That's great to hear. I've had to fill and sand pin marks in each and every track link with some kits- well isn't a hobby supposed to be fun and stress relieving!?!?! Indifferent

 

Certainly not, but use of a sledge hammer is highly recomended.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, August 31, 2017 7:33 AM

Bish: Lol, and I guess you don't need to handle them with tweezers!

SP: That's great to hear. I've had to fill and sand pin marks in each and every track link with some kits- well isn't a hobby supposed to be fun and stress relieving!?!?! Indifferent

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, August 31, 2017 1:59 AM

Like the idea of the base Stik and nicework on those tracks.

personally, i find doing real tracks a lot easier than these kits ones. At least you don't have to paint and weather the real ones, and no glue involved Wink

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, August 30, 2017 3:30 PM

Hunter,,, Indy tracks like this remind me too much of doing that for real in the motor pool...

Gamera, it is a good track set. No ejection pin marks to worry about and they fit nicely. I've certainly encountered worse...

 

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N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, August 30, 2017 12:05 PM

Looks like a neat set, they're going to look cool on the tank. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Hunter on Wednesday, August 30, 2017 9:09 AM

Stik,

Thank you for the information, it's always nice to learn something new. Now...enjoy putting your tracks together one piece at a time LOL.

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, August 29, 2017 9:17 PM

Hunter, when you think of the design period for the T-55 onto an "atomic battlefield" the lack of a AA MG for the TC makes sense. The tank hunting helicopter was a few years off, and tactical air support at that time was fast movers volley firing rockets in a few seconds... dedicated mobile AA platforms like the ZSU 57-2 would give cover to the lead elements. Even Western designs for the most part were in similar straights with most NATO MBTs that were not US designed having only a 7.62mm MG.

Today was just working on the indy track links. I am using this Trumpeter set

 

 

I take the links and build small batches

 

 

And then build up long sections from the sub assemblies

 

 

I have built up the bottom runs for both sides now

 

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U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by Hunter on Sunday, August 27, 2017 9:56 AM

stikpusher
Hunter, I don't know what the exact reasoning was for the Soviets not to have the AA MG on the T-55 originally.  Supposedly they thought it would be useless against jets of the era. But then NATO started deploying helicopter tank hunters in large numbers, and in the 70's the T-55s and T-62s received the Dshk machine gun that they did not have originally have, but the older T-54s and T-10s had already. 

Stik,

That makes sense. I dug into it a little more and could not fing a solid answer as to why the Soviets left it off for that time period. The Dshk displaced a 12.7 x 108mm round. Until the late 1950's most AAMG's displaced a round between 20mm to 150mm. The Dshk has had a long history of seeing action from 1938 to Iraq. It is widely used by many countries i.e, Asia, Europe and the Middle East. Just curious if it was due to rushed production, economics or like you said just pointless for the time.

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, August 25, 2017 7:08 PM

Bish, from the photos of the real ones, you can see what I am aiming for. And just a nice simple city street base.

 

Gamera, no love for them here either. But just while working on the suspension and lower hull, I sure was thinking about the engineering of just that area on the real tank. Tamiya really did sweet work capturing the detail.

 

Bill, I'm with you on the T-54/55 family. It was a worthy successor to the T-34. I hope that you enjoy this build.

 

Mike, give yourself to the Dark Side... your Tiger is calling you...

 

Hunter, I don't know what the exact reasoning was for the Soviets not to have the AA MG on the T-55 originally.  Supposedly they thought it would be useless against jets of the era. But then NATO started deploying helicopter tank hunters in large numbers, and in the 70's the T-55s and T-62s received the Dshk machine gun that they did not have originally have, but the older T-54s and T-10s had already. 

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by Hunter on Friday, August 25, 2017 12:56 PM

Stik,

I was looking over your kit photo and the photos you posted and noticed that the T 55 did not have a antiaircraft machine gun mounted near the port opening. Was this something the Soviets felt unnecessary?

Hunter 

      

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Posted by M. Brindos on Friday, August 25, 2017 8:44 AM

I'm getting an armor itch, Stik. I'm blaming you and Baer.

Still have an incomplete Tiger waiting for some love....

- Mike Brindos "Lost Boy"

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Posted by warshipguy on Friday, August 25, 2017 8:36 AM

I have always liked the T-54 and T-55 line of tanks.  I will follow this thread with great interest!

Bill Morrison

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, August 25, 2017 7:31 AM

Looks great SP and you're making great progress. 

 

No love for the USSR or communism here but they built some badass looking tanks.

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Posted by Bish on Friday, August 25, 2017 6:31 AM

Will be looking forwardto see what you do with this.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, August 24, 2017 11:33 PM

Ok Hunter. I hope you like it.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by Hunter on Thursday, August 24, 2017 10:36 PM

Hey Stik,

Very cool subject for your charter GB. I will be along for the entire ride sir.

Hunter 

      

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, August 24, 2017 10:04 PM

All the photos that I can find of T-55s there are early model- flat loaders hatch, no AA MG, no anti radiation shielding visible, snorkel stowed with the fuel drums and not on the turret. I have some Trumpeter tracks that I will use. They won't fit my Trumpeter T-54s without narrowing the sprocket. Go figure. 

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by Griffin25 on Thursday, August 24, 2017 9:43 PM

Yes so many options to chose from. Are you going to do the A model with the anti radiation stuff or the standard version? I don't know which one they used in the quelling of that uprising. What AM tracks are you going to use? 

 

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, August 24, 2017 8:09 PM

Griffin, that is one reason we chose the T-54/T-55 family for our chapter GB. There were so many built and they have served in so many locations, for so many years, that the possibilities to build something different are vast. 

Aside from back dating mine to an earlier version, and replacing the kit tracks, the only add on I currently plan on is adding the plumbing for the external fuel tanks.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by Griffin25 on Thursday, August 24, 2017 7:21 PM

Very cool. I'll be watching. I have that kit with plans on making an Ethiopian version during the Ethiopian Eritrean war. I look forward to learning some tips! Smile

 

 

Griffin

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, August 24, 2017 6:51 PM

SprueOne

Yeah, those are nice color ref pictures. I'll be hangin around this thread, if you don't mind.

 

 

 

Please do!

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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