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Dragon Sd.Kfz. 251/16 Ausf. C

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, December 5, 2017 4:16 AM

Rambo
Thanks for the info Bish. As for the tamiya 251 hanomag, that was just one of the companies building the 251. It's like most tamiya kits and builds real nice and easy but it does show its age and had alot of inaccuracies, the water tank being one of the big ones.
 

Ye, i did build it years ago. I don't know why Tamiya stuck the hanomag label to it, as i understand the Germans didn't and most troops would have associated the name with somthing else. As you say, it was just one of the companies involved in it.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Rambo on Tuesday, December 5, 2017 4:10 AM
Thanks for the info Bish. As for the tamiya 251 hanomag, that was just one of the companies building the 251. It's like most tamiya kits and builds real nice and easy but it does show its age and had alot of inaccuracies, the water tank being one of the big ones.

Clint

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, December 5, 2017 1:56 AM

M. Brindos

Bish, Hunter, you guys have me thinking I'm probably wrong about it being an Ausf A.

I'll double check now. :/

 

Mike, it should just be labeled Hanomag 251/1. There is some confusion as the outside is a C and the inside more like an A/B, plus it has the water container which should only be fitted to an Ambulance.

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, December 5, 2017 1:55 AM

Rambo

Bish I've looked at what afv club has over at spruebrothers I'm gonna add the /7 pioneer onto my next order I built the dragon /7 about 4 years ago so it will be a good comparison for me. Also will I need to order tracks or are they like the dragon tracks that you can make workable?

 

Most of the AFV Club tracks are like Tamiyas, the rubber band type. The only one i know that is not is the /4. AFV do sells indy link tracks as an AM set. I have a couple but not tried them yet.

 

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Posted by M. Brindos on Monday, December 4, 2017 9:14 PM

Bish, Hunter, you guys have me thinking I'm probably wrong about it being an Ausf A.

I'll double check now. :/

- Mike Brindos "Lost Boy"

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Posted by Rambo on Monday, December 4, 2017 4:26 PM

Bish I've looked at what afv club has over at spruebrothers I'm gonna add the /7 pioneer onto my next order I built the dragon /7 about 4 years ago so it will be a good comparison for me. Also will I need to order tracks or are they like the dragon tracks that you can make workable?

Clint

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Posted by Rambo on Monday, December 4, 2017 4:22 PM

Gamera

Looks good! 

Gosh I hate it when cement gets under a rubber band and leaved a great honkin' scar. 

 

Me too, It's not the first time (but I hope its the last) after some sanding it looks alot better I added the rivets back using dots of super glue so see where it's at after a primer coat.

Clint

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Posted by Hunter on Monday, December 4, 2017 2:51 PM

Bish

Really, i must have missed that one. Never heard of a Tamiya Ausf A, in fact i had not realised anyone had done one yet.

 

LOL....you're better than me Bish. I thought Mike was talking about the Ausf A Panther. I need to get my head out of the clouds. EmbarrassedWhistling

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, December 4, 2017 11:37 AM

Looks good! 

Gosh I hate it when cement gets under a rubber band and leaved a great honkin' scar. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Bish on Monday, December 4, 2017 8:45 AM

Really, i must have missed that one. Never heard of a Tamiya Ausf A, in fact i had not realised anyone had done one yet.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by M. Brindos on Monday, December 4, 2017 8:32 AM

No it's not the Ausf. C, it's the Ausf. A. I plan on using no AM except for some tracks. The rubber bands just look terrible lol.

Its just another decompression build anyways. I'm just not happy with the way the paint was turning out on that Tiger I was painting and I need to fix my armor bug for the immediate present lol.

So I'm not going crazy on a kit not worth the effort. Just building and enjoying it.

But yes, I need some tracks that are not toy-like.

- Mike Brindos "Lost Boy"

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Posted by Bish on Monday, December 4, 2017 8:25 AM

I did build that kit many years ago Mike. You are talking about the old AusfC right. Personally, i would not add any AM to that kit, but if you really wanted to, some AFV club tracks should do the job.

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Posted by M. Brindos on Monday, December 4, 2017 8:02 AM

I've got to get me one of those AFVC 251's. I'm working on the old Tamiya Ausf A and I grabbed a 3.7 anti tank gun to convert it into a /10. I was going to have it towed, but the kit comes with the mounting structures, so hey, why not?

How long has it been since anyone built this version by Tamiya anyways? Lol

Still having fun with it and I'm looking for some AM tracks still. Sprue Bros doesn't seem to have any in stock ATM. Any recommendations?

- Mike Brindos "Lost Boy"

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Posted by Hunter on Monday, December 4, 2017 7:28 AM

Bish

Nice fit between upper and lower hulls.

If you like the Dragon 251's, you should try the AFV club kits. Between the 2 of them, you can get a lot of the major variants of the Ausf C and D.

 

You are correct about that Bish. I have noticed that viewing all the different online stores. Also, you already mentioned they are lower in cost compared to Dragon. 

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Posted by Hunter on Monday, December 4, 2017 7:20 AM

Rambo

Thanks Hunter

I'm a big fan of these too, I've built two from the dragon 251 line and have another two in the stash. Wanting to pick up a couple of the cyber hobby boxings of the /3 and /6

 

I have 3 Tamiya, 2 Trumpeter and 1 Dragon in the stash. I have not built a Dragon kit yet. Again, very nice work.

Hunter 

      

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Posted by Bish on Monday, December 4, 2017 6:53 AM

Well, it seems you choose the logical option. I am glad i saw that, i would have probably put the back on and then realised the error. Thanks.

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Posted by Rambo on Monday, December 4, 2017 6:49 AM
I would have but I knew the pump would get in the way. If this was a D I would have painted everything before assembly since the rear seem to fit together alot easier just being a flat.

Clint

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Posted by Bish on Monday, December 4, 2017 6:39 AM

No worries. And i will be posting a build log on the /4, so hopefully you will get some idea.

Look forward to seeing more of this /16. Was just looking at your first pics again and really impressed with the detail on the flame equipment and how you have painted that. Also noted you have left the lower back piece off. I usually fit that before painting, but i can see why you didn't, will have to remember that.

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Posted by Rambo on Monday, December 4, 2017 6:35 AM
Thanks for the info, I'll look into them see what they have.

Clint

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Posted by Bish on Monday, December 4, 2017 4:40 AM

So far i have built 2 Dragon kits, one C and one D, and an AFV D. Both build up very similar and the detail is about the same. I'll be doing the AFV /4 Ausf C early in the new year so looking forward to seeing how that compares, but so far i think the 2 brands are on the same level.

I have a bit of a 251 fetish with 30 kits so far, 4 of which are built, i have also done 1 Tamiya kit. AFV club kits are in the majority as i have tended to go for them over Dragon where they do the same version but thats largely down to price as the AFV kits tend to be cheaper but just as good.

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Posted by Rambo on Monday, December 4, 2017 4:19 AM
Bish I've been thinking about it, I never have built a afv kit I got two a 8rad and a British Dorchester captured by Rommel in africa they both are nicely molded but how do the 251s look?

Clint

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Posted by Bish on Monday, December 4, 2017 2:20 AM

Nice fit between upper and lower hulls.

If you like the Dragon 251's, you should try the AFV club kits. Between the 2 of them, you can get a lot of the major variants of the Ausf C and D.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Rambo on Sunday, December 3, 2017 5:30 PM

Thanks Hunter

I'm a big fan of these too, I've built two from the dragon 251 line and have another two in the stash. Wanting to pick up a couple of the cyber hobby boxings of the /3 and /6

Clint

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Posted by Hunter on Sunday, December 3, 2017 5:05 PM

Clint,

Great kit! I am a huge fan of the halftrack. The interior paint and weathering looks great. Minus the little issues, it's coming along nicely. I'll be along until you finish.

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Posted by Rambo on Sunday, December 3, 2017 4:28 PM

I got the hull closed up today needed some rubber band force in a few places and I ended up with a gap in the rear section thats going to need some filler work. But in the end it went togeather easier then I thought till I noticed I left the radio out so gona have some tricky work getting that in later but no big deal. The biggest thing is some glue got under a rubber band when it was sitting up and now there is a spot thats going to need some work. I've started some sanding already and I'll have to add the rivets back but it could have been worse

 

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Sd.Kfz 251.16 4

Clint

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Posted by Bish on Friday, December 1, 2017 1:44 PM

I wounder why i can't see them on IE. I use Flickr and have no issues and can see otehr who use it. Might be the way you have linked your pics.

Nice work there, like the results. Good to see the inside of this, i've got the /16 C and D from Dragon in the stash. Look forward to seeing more of this.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Rambo on Friday, December 1, 2017 1:25 PM

Bish try chrome ir Firefox I guess IE doesn't like photos from Flickr. Nope it's the old one bought it after it was released.

Clint

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Posted by RX7850 on Friday, December 1, 2017 1:12 PM

Coming along nice. Interior finish and details  look great.

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Posted by Bish on Friday, December 1, 2017 1:09 PM

Afraid i can't see your pics and i would love to see this.

Is this the new boxing of this kit.

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Dragon Sd.Kfz. 251/16 Ausf. C
Posted by Rambo on Friday, December 1, 2017 12:31 PM

Been working on this for the past week or so it's my first kit back into building. Picked it out of the stash because you can make the tracks workable and I didn't want to wait on a order to come in since I like to build the tracks first to make sure everything sits level with the road wheels and what not. But in doing that I forgot how it's a pain to get the side panels and floor to sit right on these halftracks. In the end I got them togeather and started painting. For the yellow color I take a entire new jar of Tamiya flat white XF-2 and a entire jar of dark yellow XF-60 then from that 50/50 mix I eyeball more dark yellow in to I get the color I want. Plus that jar will last for 3-4 builds. After the paint sat over night I started the weathering first with some Tamiya Hull Red Xf-9 dry brushed light in some spots and heavy in others to show the primer under the paint. Next I did a very very light dry brush of Vallejo oily steel just on the floor. After that was a dry brush and more like stabbing of Model Master burnt umber to show more wear and tear. Then went back with the base color and drybrushed it in to tie everything back togeather. Hand brushed the gasmask holder and radio Vallejo german field grey then picked out detail with black, also open up a hole for wire later. The seats where painted Vallejo german cam. black brown since to me looks alot like dark leather. The last thing to be done up to this point was to go over the entire inside with Mig The Filter Brown for Desert Yellow. For being gone for 3 years it feals really good to get back into things. Thanks for looking 

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