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T-90MS camo
Posted by Tankluver on Sunday, March 22, 2020 1:53 PM

I just received the 1/35 Zvezda T-90MS, i notice it only calls for a desert camo pattern but is there any pictures showing it in a more green base pattern or a plain green pattern? It's my first modern kit in awhile.

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Sunday, March 22, 2020 4:36 PM

If you search for some of the Polish schemes or perhaps Malaysian schemes you might find some. It might be hard to find "non-desert" schemes since they are pushing the Middle Eastern market for these tanks. European countries are satisified with the Leopard series.

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Posted by Pawel on Sunday, March 22, 2020 6:53 PM

Hello!

Did Rob say Polish? One thing, though - let's not confuse the earlier PT-91 Twardy (which is a T-72 mod) with the new Russian T-90 - Poland doesn't use them. Desert schemes are just fashionable these days - but I'm sure if you look up some Russian sites, you'll find some schemes for more northern weather. The trich would be to go to google translate, let it translate "T-90 tank" into Russian, copy the Russian text and let google look for the Russian phrase. Sometimes you get extremely interesting results this way.

Here's what I found:

T-90 Tank

Hope it helps, have a nice day

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Posted by Tankluver on Sunday, March 22, 2020 8:35 PM

Pawel

Hello!

Did Rob say Polish? One thing, though - let's not confuse the earlier PT-91 Twardy (which is a T-72 mod) with the new Russian T-90 - Poland doesn't use them. Desert schemes are just fashionable these days - but I'm sure if you look up some Russian sites, you'll find some schemes for more northern weather. The trich would be to go to google translate, let it translate "T-90 tank" into Russian, copy the Russian text and let google look for the Russian phrase. Sometimes you get extremely interesting results this way.

Here's what I found:

T-90 Tank

Hope it helps, have a nice day

Paweł

 

I will say i do like that top right camo pattern. i think i may have just found My inspiration 

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Monday, March 23, 2020 10:30 AM

Pawel

Hello!

Did Rob say Polish? One thing, though - let's not confuse the earlier PT-91 Twardy (which is a T-72 mod) with the new Russian T-90 - Poland doesn't use them. Desert schemes are just fashionable these days - but I'm sure if you look up some Russian sites, you'll find some schemes for more northern weather. The trich would be to go to google translate, let it translate "T-90 tank" into Russian, copy the Russian text and let google look for the Russian phrase. Sometimes you get extremely interesting results this way.

To give him ideas for European camouflage patterns, not for "true to life" camouflage paint schemes. Like I said, that tank is being marketed to countries with arid temperatures, not European. Virtually any pattern you put on it falls into the "what if" category since they all appear to be demo vehicles as opposed to operational ones.

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, March 23, 2020 11:00 AM

Is the T-90MS in service anywhere? Or just being pitched to various countries?

 

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Monday, March 23, 2020 11:39 AM

stikpusher

Is the T-90MS in service anywhere? Or just being pitched to various countries?

As far as I know, just being demo'd to potential buyers. That's why I suggested looking for schemes for similar tanks.

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Posted by snapdragonxxx on Monday, March 23, 2020 1:00 PM

April 2019, India’s Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) has approved the INR134.48 billion (USD 1.93 billion) procurement of 464 Russian-made T-90MS main battle tanks (MBTs) for the Indian Army (IA), the New Delhi Times reports. According to a news released on November 8, 2019, to the official website of the "Times of India", the Indian Ministry of defense has signed a contract with with the Heavy Vehicles Factory at Avadi in Chennai to produce 469 Russian T-90 Main Battle Tanks (MBTs), that could be the MS version of the T-90 family.

Start looking at Indian Army PR Photos.

 

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Posted by Tankluver on Monday, March 23, 2020 3:22 PM

snapdragonxxx

April 2019, India’s Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) has approved the INR134.48 billion (USD 1.93 billion) procurement of 464 Russian-made T-90MS main battle tanks (MBTs) for the Indian Army (IA), the New Delhi Times reports. According to a news released on November 8, 2019, to the official website of the "Times of India", the Indian Ministry of defense has signed a contract with with the Heavy Vehicles Factory at Avadi in Chennai to produce 469 Russian T-90 Main Battle Tanks (MBTs), that could be the MS version of the T-90 family.

Start looking at Indian Army PR Photos.

 

 

Interesting to see them get the first batch. I wonder if this is just going to be an export vehicle or if the Russians will field them later. Like i stayed above I loke the look of that camo in the top right photo.

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Tuesday, March 24, 2020 12:32 PM

I have not been tracking this tank, but it looks like when we dolly up an old M60 series tank and try to sell them to other countries as a cheaper alternative that looks M1ish.

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Posted by Tankluver on Tuesday, March 24, 2020 1:26 PM

Rob Gronovius

I have not been tracking this tank, but it looks like when we dolly up an old M60 series tank and try to sell them to other countries as a cheaper alternative that looks M1ish.

 

 

Youre not wrong, I wasnt really aware of this vehicle either. it looks as if they just added more reactive armor 

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, March 24, 2020 2:04 PM

I think it looks pretty good in their Russian MERDC style camo

 

 

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Posted by HeavyArty on Tuesday, March 24, 2020 2:08 PM

Tankluver
Rob Gronovius

I have not been tracking this tank, but it looks like when we dolly up an old M60 series tank and try to sell them to other countries as a cheaper alternative that looks M1ish. 

Youre not wrong, I wasnt really aware of this vehicle either. it looks as if they just added more reactive armor 

Yup, it is basically an improved (maybe?) T-72.  I  personally saw how they fared in Iraq.  I was not impressed.

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, March 24, 2020 2:11 PM

HeavyArty

 

 
Tankluver
Rob Gronovius

I have not been tracking this tank, but it looks like when we dolly up an old M60 series tank and try to sell them to other countries as a cheaper alternative that looks M1ish. 

Youre not wrong, I wasnt really aware of this vehicle either. it looks as if they just added more reactive armor 

 

Yup, it is basically an improved (maybe?) T-72.  I  personally saw how they fared in Iraq.  I was not impressed.

 

Opened it up to see what was inside, did you?

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, March 24, 2020 2:22 PM

HeavyArty

 

 
Tankluver
Rob Gronovius

I have not been tracking this tank, but it looks like when we dolly up an old M60 series tank and try to sell them to other countries as a cheaper alternative that looks M1ish. 

Youre not wrong, I wasnt really aware of this vehicle either. it looks as if they just added more reactive armor 

 

Yup, it is basically an improved (maybe?) T-72.  I  personally saw how they fared in Iraq.  I was not impressed.

 

That is pretty much what it is. The T-90 designation came about for the latest model of T-72 after their dismal showing in Desert Storm. Nobody wanted to buy an export T-72. So rebrand it as a whole new improved tank, the T-90, and the sales markets opened up. 

 

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Posted by Tankluver on Tuesday, March 24, 2020 5:25 PM

stikpusher

I think it looks pretty good in their Russian MERDC style camo

 

 

That actually looks pretty good, maybe I'll paint it like that. Is there a paint set for this style of camo?

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, March 24, 2020 6:59 PM

AK Real Color makes Modern Russian Green 98 and Russian Grayish Yellow 99. Any flat black should do.

 

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Posted by Tankluver on Tuesday, March 24, 2020 10:21 PM

stikpusher

AK Real Color makes Modern Russian Green 98 and Russian Grayish Yellow 99. Any flat black should do.

 

Ill keep that in mind, I haven't used that paint brand yet. I usually use Ammo Mig.

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, March 24, 2020 11:21 PM

Real Color is pretty good. Very strong pigments. In formulation and consistency they remind me of Gunze.

 

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Posted by Tankluver on Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:41 AM

stikpusher

Real Color is pretty good. Very strong pigments. In formulation and consistency they remind me of Gunze.

 

Thank you I'll give it a shot

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Posted by Tankluver on Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:55 AM

stikpusher

Real Color is pretty good. Very strong pigments. In formulation and consistency they remind me of Gunze.

 


Would the modern Russian camo set colume 1 or 2 from ammo Mig work ? 

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:19 AM

Set 2 looks perfect. Set 1 is for export vehicles.

 

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:01 PM

GMorrison

Opened it up to see what was inside, did you?

We got a chance to operate with the Kuwait Army's M-84, a Yugoslavian produced variant of the T-72. It was brand new, and a POS. Renamed because of the poor reputation the T-72 earned during Desert Storm.

I had served on M48A5, M60A3TTS, M1IP, M1A1 and M1A1 heavies by then. My experience on tanks was nearly a decade at that time.

The tank I was on was made by the same country that made the Yugo. The quality was similar. Lots of gee whiz stuff that didn't work well, cheaply made controls and fittings, and I knew the armor couldn't take a hit from a US 105 mm or 120 mm tank round.

The entire T-90 series is just rebranded T-72s with some updated features. Chuck some more ERA and spaced armor to give it a more "modern" appearance, like being done with the M60A1/A3 series of tanks, and you still have a lesser tank that the more modern Abrams, Leopard 2, Challenger II series tanks.

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