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Oh my darling ... Valentine

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  • Member since
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  • From: North East of England
Posted by Hutch6390 on Monday, November 23, 2020 7:34 AM

Thanks for the gen, whilst I don't have any MiniArt in the stash, I do have the AFV club Centurion Mk 3 (I'll be taking my time with that one!) and a Bronco Comet, which seems fairly straightforward except for the indy-link tracks...

So far I've built the Chieftain Mk 5 (or, possibly, 2?), Challenger 1, Churchill Mk VII, and Valentine - all Tamiya. I've got the aforementioned tanks in the stash, along with another Tamiya job - Challenger 2.  maybe after the Cent I'll get a bit more adventurous!

Keep us posted on your Valentine, and how you get on with the VMS glue.

Vell, Zaphod's just zis guy, you know?

   

TakkaTakkaTakkaTakkaTakkaTakka

 

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Monday, November 23, 2020 6:38 AM

I'm guessing that the cenrurion is an AFV club kit (glad they are finally expanding the range of British versions) in which case if your mainly used to tamiya kit, you might want to brace your self. AFV club kits are almost at the same level as Dragon when it comes to detail, though they are better engineered. The only thing i don't like about them is the rubber band tracks.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by Mopar Madness on Sunday, November 22, 2020 8:05 PM

The PE bender is a great investment.  I think I would've seen all those links on the sprues then slowly close the lid and slid the box back in the stash. Big Smile

Chad

God, Family, Models...

At the plate: 1/48 Airfix Bf109 & 1/35 Tamiya Famo

On deck: Who knows!

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Posted by Also known as Rob on Sunday, November 22, 2020 5:55 PM
Thank you Bish
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Posted by Also known as Rob on Sunday, November 22, 2020 5:51 PM

Hutch6390
Unfashionable though it might be, I prefer the vinyl tracks, they make life so much easier.

I understand what you mean. I made the Tamiya Matilda a couple of models ago. It comes with both links and vinyl tracks. I started with the links and made a complete balls up of it. I ended up using the vinyl tracks.

With the Matilda, I don't think it makes a lot of difference as the top run of the tracks is hidden. But I also made a Centaur and that could have done with a solution that sagged realistically. I tried cementing the tracks to the top of the wheels but that didn't work too well.

I watched the VMS youtube piece on making tracks and if that works it looks like a really good way of doing it. So I'm giving it a try ... when the slow cement arrives.

If it doesn't work, I think the next thing to try is metal tracks for tanks where the upper run is visible - which they will be for this Valentine.

Hutch6390
I am also building British tanks, my aim is to cover their history, but only with the most significant types, and not in any particular order.

Yes - that's pretty much what I'm doing too. Big Smile With one exception - My wife bought me a Centurion for my birthday. I think the Centurion is the ultimate British tank of World War II. It's the end point for the development of British tanks through the war. I was tempted to get a Mark 1 which would have made most sense, but there is a group of figures that I really like the look of, to go with an Israeli version, so I asked my wie to get me that one. That's going to be my next kit. It's my sequence of tanks - so I think I can bend the rules if I want to.

I've built: Churchill, Centaur, Matilda, Crusader IIII so far. So once the Valentine and Centurian are built things get interesting. A Comet would be good. After that I'll probably go for one of the early Cruiser - probabaly an A9 or A10. Alternatively I may go for tank used by the British - with a Sherman being top of the list.

Hutch6390
How are you finding the build process with MiniArt, compared to Tamiya (other than the PE, of course)?

The MiniArt is more difficult I think than the Tamiyas I've built so far - but not necesarily in a bad way. It's mainly the extra detail - the very small parts that are less common in a Tamiya kit. There have been a couple of instances were it wasn't clear where the small details go exactly - a couple of rivets on the front glacis for example. But generally everything is really well molded and fits together nicely.

It's difficult, as I'm in two minds as to why I'm finding this kit harder. The more I think about it, the more I think it's the photo-etch. I'm just not used to it - so out of my comfort zone. But the more I do it, the more comfortable I feel with it. I hope after this one my next photo-etch tank will compare more easily with non-photo-etch models.

I'd also state that there's some variance between Tamiya kits. The Crusader III definitely didn't go together as well as the other Tamiya kits I've made recently - though I'm pleased with the end results.

So I'd definitely recommend giving Miniart kits a go - but be prepared for them taking a little longer to build - and do a bit of research on tools, glues and techniques needed for photo-etch.

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Sunday, November 22, 2020 3:09 PM

Nice work on that so far, and the PE work looks nice. look forward to seeing more. I have not built a miniart armour kit yet, but they are coming out with some nice subjects and they make great figure set.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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  • From: North East of England
Posted by Hutch6390 on Sunday, November 22, 2020 2:59 PM

Looking good so far, Rob, and good on you for tackling PE - I haven't done that yet, but it's pretty inevitable, sooner or later, I upposeSmile

And good luck with the track-bashing!  Unfashionable though it might be, I prefer the vinyl tracks, they make life so much easier.  I am also building British tanks, my aim is to cover their history, but only with the most significant types, and not in any particular order.

How are you finding the build process with MiniArt, compared to Tamiya (other than the PE, of course)?

Vell, Zaphod's just zis guy, you know?

   

TakkaTakkaTakkaTakkaTakkaTakka

 

  • Member since
    November 2020
Oh my darling ... Valentine
Posted by Also known as Rob on Sunday, November 22, 2020 1:32 PM

My current build is a Miniart Valentine. I've taken up model making again after a break of 20-30 years as something to do in lockdown. I wanted to support the Tank Museum who had been putting so many intesting talks on Youtube, that were helping me get through the long hours. So bought a 1:35 Churchill from their online shop ... and haven't looked back. I'm trying to restrict myself to WWII British tanks, as there are so many models to choose, having a theme helps me break down the choices a lot.

After a run of Tamiya tanks I thought it time to try my hand with a model from one of the newer manufacturers. The Miniart Valentine looked just the ticket

Miniart Valentine cover art

I have to admit to my choice of which Miniart Valentine to choose was based on price. The Mark 6 Canadian one was the cheapest.

The start of the build was fairly straightforward, but even from the start it has been clear that the detail level is high. I was in two minds not to build the driver's seat and controls as I am not planning to have the drivers hatches open ... but it seemed churlish to start skipping steps so early in the build.

Valentine build - first stage

Spending an evening cutting track links off sprues and trimming them was .... interesting.

Valentine track links

Using a chisel knife blade made the process a lot easier.

Chisel knife blade

I've ordered some VMS slow setting cement to assemble the tracks, but this is taking a while to arrive, so assembling the tracks is on hold at the moment.

Which means I've moved onto the upper hull. And that's meant getting to grips with Photo-Etch for the first time. So far so good, but I've struggled with some of the very small parts. Old eyes and hands aren't great with them. Using PVA with the very small parts has been my salvation.

Valentine build - upper hull 1

Valentine - uppper hull build 2

I'm really glad I did some research before starting and invested in a couple of tools such as a bendng machine, as they've made the process a lot easier.

Photo etch bending machine

I've gone as far as I can with the upper hull without the tracks being assembled, so will move onto the turret next.

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