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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Monday, August 2, 2021 8:32 PM

RBaer

Pics soon, in green!

 

HURRAH!!! 

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Tuesday, August 3, 2021 9:48 AM

waynec

 

and we had M-219s and even some M-73 COAX. if you got one to shoot well you just passed it from tank to tank during gunnery.

 

The M219 coax was a pain in the butt. I had to deal with it on the CEV and later on the M48A5. I remember getting really good with the little cartridge ejector tool to pull a messed up casing out of the receiver.

I trained on the M1IP in AOB, but went to a unit in Germany that still had the M60A3TTS. I had no experience on that tank or with its fire control system, but enough was similar to the CEV and M48A5 that I was able to figure it out and shoot superior my first gunnery a month after I got into Germany.

Even in December 1987, there were still soldiers in the unit that had served on the M60A2 when the battalion was still 3/68 Armor.

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  • From: Dripping Springs, TX, USA
Posted by RBaer on Wednesday, August 4, 2021 9:14 AM

It looks kind of black here, my lighting and camera I think. The color is Rustoleum camo green.

 IMG_1328 by Russel Baer, on Flickr

I think I'm going to do the four color MERDC....  Academy had a pretty good four plan view in the instructions, and I'm told that the additional colors could be brushed on, good for me since that's how I'll be doing it.

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Wednesday, August 4, 2021 11:26 AM
Yes, we normally hand painted the additional colors. The tanks were spray painted the base color and the pattern chalked on and then hand painted black and sand squiggles. The "prettiness" depended on how much the crew cared about painting and how well they painted it. We used the same type of brushes you can buy to paint your house.
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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, August 4, 2021 11:30 AM

RBaer: Cool! Looks good and good luck with the MERDC!

Rob: Interesting, thanks! So I guess a hard-edge is perfectly okay.

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Posted by RBaer on Wednesday, August 4, 2021 3:13 PM

Thanks Rob! So, black and sand over the green?

Thanks G. I'll need a casual day I can dedicate to it......

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Posted by HeavyArty on Wednesday, August 4, 2021 3:46 PM

RBaer

Thanks Rob! So, black and sand over the green?

It is actually four colors.  The main two, dominant ones (Forest Green and Field Drab) were sprayed, with smaller squiggles of the sand and black done by hand.

1 Forest Green

2 Field Drab

3 Sand Squiggles

Black Squiggles

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Thursday, August 5, 2021 1:28 AM

RBaer

Thanks Rob! So, black and sand over the green?

Thanks G. I'll need a casual day I can dedicate to it......

 

No, green first, brown next and then the sand and black squiggles were added by brush. We didn't bother with road wheel painting. They were always mud colored and would get changed out too often to matter. They stayed green.

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Posted by RBaer on Thursday, August 5, 2021 12:49 PM

Gino, Rob: Thanks!

Gino, where did that diagram come from? I need to print that and keep it next to me......  large enough for my old eyes to be able to see it, lol.

Edit: Well heck, it's also in the Academy instructions, big enough to see.

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Thursday, August 5, 2021 11:21 PM

RBaer

Gino, Rob: Thanks!

Gino, where did that diagram come from? I need to print that and keep it next to me......  large enough for my old eyes to be able to see it, lol.

Edit: Well heck, it's also in the Academy instructions, big enough to see.

 

Now imagine using that paint scheme (from an Army Technical Bulletin) on an 8x10 piece of paper that's been photocopied a bunch of times, to actually chalk off the actual tank. No two tanks looked the same and the neatness depended on the crew.

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Posted by RBaer on Friday, August 6, 2021 5:27 PM

I'm covered then!

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Posted by Tojo72 on Sunday, August 8, 2021 7:54 PM
Looks good,looking foward to the camo

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  • From: Dripping Springs, TX, USA
Posted by RBaer on Sunday, August 22, 2021 3:33 PM

Some time ago I printed the same diagram Gino posted, full sized, so I figured I may as well nut up and do it. Progress so far:

 IMG_1477 by Russel Baer, on Flickr

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, August 22, 2021 9:10 PM

Nice work, the camo looks darn good! Yes

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Thursday, August 26, 2021 1:16 AM

Agreed, it looks good.

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, August 26, 2021 2:35 AM

This is a thread that needs to be saved.

We try to do it over on "Ships".

Because the FSM search window doesn't go back into, well much.

I wish someone could set up a cloud account for best FSM threads ever.

I'd kick in $$.

 

Bill

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  • From: Dripping Springs, TX, USA
Posted by RBaer on Friday, August 27, 2021 11:48 AM

Thanks all.

All four colors on now, Tee Dee Us!

 IMG_1660 by Russel Baer, on Flickr

 IMG_1659 by Russel Baer, on Flickr

That's a first coat, gotta check for any visible brush strokes, clean that up, then clear flat and a VERY thin reapplication of camo colors.

 

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Posted by HeavyArty on Friday, August 27, 2021 12:21 PM
The MERDC paintjob is coming out great. Good job so far.

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Posted by RBaer on Friday, August 27, 2021 3:18 PM

Thanks Gino. 

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Posted by M1GarandFan on Saturday, August 28, 2021 1:04 PM

IDK. That paint job looks awfully good to me. Congrats on your patience and perseverance to get it to this point.

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, August 29, 2021 6:34 PM

Outstanding

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Monday, August 30, 2021 5:50 AM

Hello!

Lookin' good even without the shading and weathering... One of these days I have to build something MERDC coloured - I think a Gama Goat or something like that...

Have a nice day!

Paweł

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Monday, August 30, 2021 11:53 AM

Pawel

Hello!

Lookin' good even without the shading and weathering... One of these days I have to build something MERDC coloured - I think a Gama Goat or something like that...

Have a nice day!

Paweł

Since you're a Vietnam era armor modeler, you should do an M113 that was in OG with white stars that is being repainted with the MERDC camouflage scheme.

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Monday, August 30, 2021 12:57 PM

Hello Rob!

Sounds like a nice idea... One could show the white lines chalked in and a track in process with some privates and paint brushes...

Have a nice day!

Paweł

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Monday, August 30, 2021 6:50 PM

Pawel
Sounds like a nice idea... One could show the white lines chalked in and a track in process with some privates and paint brushes...

Hmm, really, three would be ideal.  One in OD, masked up and chalked for outlines.

A second with the two main colors sprayed on (it would be the hardest, too, as replicating bad solider over-spray and under-spray is complicated on a model).

The third could be getting the w & b brushed in.

And, each could be detailed that least bit individually--trim vane hanging straight down; folded, extended, and so on; with & w/o rubber skirts, and so forth.

Tracks & road wheels might still be stained with red mud, to give a connection for a unit rotating back to The World.

Not that I'm an enabler giving you an excuse to build three models instead of just one, or anything, I promise . . . Smile

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  • From: Dripping Springs, TX, USA
Posted by RBaer on Wednesday, September 1, 2021 10:07 AM

The painting diagram I used is off the IPMS website or magazine from about 13 years ago, and the intro page is a line drawing of two guys with brushes adding colors.....

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, September 1, 2021 8:29 PM

Beautiful job on the MERDC!!! 

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Sunday, September 5, 2021 11:37 AM

Gamera

Beautiful job on the MERDC!!! 

 

We need a MERDC group build. Weren't the Poles even using something akin to MERDC Pawel? I know the ROC and South Koreans were using something very similar.

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Sunday, September 5, 2021 5:04 PM

Rob Gronovius

 

 
Gamera

Beautiful job on the MERDC!!! 

 

 

 

We need a MERDC group build. Weren't the Poles even using something akin to MERDC Pawel? I know the ROC and South Koreans were using something very similar.

 

 

Sounds like a great idea! I'd thought about a M48/M60 or another Cold War Armour GB. Way too busy now but if someone throws one next year I'm in. 

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Sunday, September 5, 2021 5:26 PM

Rob - that's a very cool idea - also because there is such a big variety of machines that can be modelled...

Most people would say the Polish post war machines were mostly single-colour green. This is also because all the period photographs are black and white and this doesn't show camo well... But there are instructions for multi coloured camo schemes and the thing about them is in winter they prescribe painting some colours out with others - making this similar to MERDEC. Also the method with chalking the outlines out and then painting is mentioned there. But the shapes of the colour spots are different - tha camo is supposed to be painted in "rings" or "islands"... If you like I could post some scans.

Have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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