Pz IV madness!!

Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Pz IV madness!!

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 1:32 AM

Ok guys, so I have been secretly harboring all the Pz IV info, and kits I could get my hands on. For a long time, the Pz IV has been one of my favorite tanks and I think I have finally gotten enough info, and kits to begin. Tonight I ripped the cellophane off the first kit, and began cutting pieces from the spurs. I am actually going to hold off on any more cutting until I finish up some current builds, but so far these are the kits I have purchased and plan to build for my Pz IV adventure:

Tamiya Pz IV H with TigerModel Pz F1 backdate and Aber details

Tamiya Pz IV H with Aber details, Aber turret skirts and Eduard Schurzen

Tamiya Pz IV J with Aber details, Aber turret skirts (I hope to add Aber Schruzen)

Dragon Pz IV J with Eduard details (I don’t think this kit really needs any more detail added)

Dragon Pz IV F2 will be built OOTB (I thought it might be good for my sanity to leave one kit built out of the box)

I also have aquired some Friu tracks, Aber fenders, an Elefant barrel, and a JR barrel. I am not sure what kit these last details will get added to, but I also plan on picking up a few more sets to add to the pile.

I did not bother purchasing the Italeri Pz IV H because I have already built it. The same goes for the Tamiya Pz IV D and the Academy Pz IV. And just in case you are interested I consider the Italeri Pz IV a superb kit, while those last two leave a lot to be desired.

Anyway, I am planning to embark full throttle in a few weeks "hopefully". Wish me luck, and I would officially like to invite anyone who wishes to join me along for the ride. Big Smile [:D]

In other words, I would love to have someone to gripe with to help maintain my mental stability. Dunce [D)]

If we do get a group going, I would also be happy to get a group web page up.

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Foster7155

Member since
July 2003
From: Pensacola, FL

Posted by Foster7155 on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:20 AM

It's kind of cool to see someone else who's just as much of a "model packrat" as I am. I'm currently in the middle of a build-along in another forum, but if I can get it cleaned up fairly quickly, I'd be glad to join you in a little PzKpfw IV madness!

Here's a list of my stockpile:

Academy Pz IV Ausf H
DML Pz IV Ausf F2 with Aber details
DML Pz IV Ausf G (2 kits) one with Eduard details (incl turret) and JR barrel
DML Pz IV Ausf F1 DAK with Aber details and JR barrel
Italeri Pz IV Ausf F1/F2/G (there's an old kit!!!)
Tamiya Pz IV Ausf D with Eduard details and Verlinden interior

I also have a Tank Workshop Engine and Compartment set to go into one of these.

Let me know if you start a build-along.
Robert

Robert Foster

Pensacola Modeleers

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Dwight Ta-ala

Member since
July 2003
From: Philippines

Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:20 AM

Well, good luck!

Do you by any chance want your forum name changed to PanzerIVfreak or something that sounds like that? He-he-he.

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djmodels1999

Member since
December 2002
From: United Kingdom / Belgium

Posted by djmodels1999 on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:47 AM

Good luck! Looking forward to seeing progress done on those!

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ridleusmc

Member since
July 2003
From: Cincinnati, Ohio

Posted by ridleusmc on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 3:47 AM

Hey, My LHS has the Tamiya PzIV Ausf J w/ Zimmerit. I've been thinking about buying it, but it's kinda expensive. Do you have any thoughts about that kit?

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Dwight Ta-ala

Member since
July 2003
From: Philippines

Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 3:58 AM

I have seen it and it does look really good but I agree with you it is quite expensive. A Dragon Panzer 4 Ausf G (Kursk) sells for half the price of that Tamiya Kit.

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 4:32 AM

I wish you all the best Edog, you crazy wacko! Tongue [:P]

If you'll allow impurities, I have an Academy Wirbelwind in my pile. I was going to Zim it up, and put Academy's indys on there, but that was about it.

If you don't allow such blasphemy, I will just cheer you on from the sidelines!

Big Smile [:D]

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Build22

Member since
May 2003
From: Upstate NY

Posted by Build22 on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 6:24 AM

Edog,

Definetly an underated tank in WW II and as as a model too. Your right there is all kinds of aftermarket stuff for the PZ IV. You can dress those things up very nicely.

That's alot of road wheels if you are going to do them all at once.

Good luck with the build. Can we expect a full depth review of all the kits w/pictures ?

Jim [IMG]

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zokissima

Member since
July 2003
From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Posted by zokissima on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 8:18 AM

Wow, madness, all I can say to that. I hope you throughoutly enjoy it Smile [:)]

As for me, I've yet to get one. maybe...I do need something to build soon.

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 8:47 AM

Mein Gott!, So it was you two who have all the PE and kits I was looking for.

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 9:07 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by Dwight Ta-ala

Well, good luck!

Do you by any chance want your forum name changed to PanzerIVfreak or something that sounds like that? He-he-he.

Or maybe PanzerIV-yoda Big Smile [:D]

I hope you will get a group going, I don't have a Pz IV and I have alot of other kits to finish so I won't be able to join you, but good luck.

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 9:13 AM

Wow, that's alot of Pz IV's!! Good luck. I have but one, a half completed 1/72 Italeri Panzer IV, who keeps looking at me with puppy eyes begging to be completed. After my M10 of course

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 9:53 AM

Dang edog I already promissed my IVJ for the Dday Build. I do have a IV D I can do with you. Actually I can do the J with you but will just be doing it for the DDay build as well. I have the Verlinden interior for it as well.

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tigerman

Member since
March 2003
From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA

Posted by tigerman on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 10:28 AM

I just got my Tamiya Panzer IV J in the mail. It's a very nice looking kit. Way better than their older H.

Eric

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fightnjoe

Member since
September 2011

Posted by fightnjoe on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 11:32 AM

you guys are too much. i have problems with one afv, you are way out of my league.

good luck to you.

joe

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Lufbery

Member since
December 2002
From: Harrisburg, PA

Posted by Lufbery on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 11:51 AM

Hey Edog,

I'm glad to read good things about the Italeri Pz IV H. I got that kit as a gift many years ago and it will probably end up being my first tank kit build.

Regards,

-Drew

Build what you like; like what you build.

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 12:00 PM

Thats alot of Pz IV ,So then I should go as the" Kingtiger freak" I have 2 of the ardennes, the henchel turret and porshe t(amiya's) then dragon's henchel and porche turrets of maybe even "panther freak" I have 6 of those as well or just german armor freak come to think of it looking at my kits they are just about all german I am now on the sherman hunt though got around 7 different ones but we all know "shrmanfreak" is already taken.
Ok edog let go for a name change....hehehehehehe Cool [8D]

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 1:13 PM

Hey,

I have a MkIV on the shelf and another in the box.... sounds like you beat me out in that catagory hands down! Have fun with your builds!

Ron

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 3:15 PM

WHAT? No flakpanzers? Shock [:O]

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renarts

Member since
April 2003
From: Sunny Florida

Posted by renarts on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 3:56 PM

Edog,
I have the Dragon Ausf. G and the Tamiya Ausf. D
Say when.

Mike

Mike "Imagination is the dye that colors our lives" Marcus Aurellius A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"

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Foster7155

Member since
July 2003
From: Pensacola, FL

Posted by Foster7155 on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 4:22 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by muzzleflash88

WHAT? No flakpanzers?

Oops,

I also have the Kugelblitz, Flakpanzer IV and a Jagdpanzer IV. Blush [:I]

Just didn't think they qualified. Big Smile [:D]

Robert

Robert Foster

Pensacola Modeleers

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 4:42 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by thundergod

Thats alot of Pz IV ,So then I should go as the" Kingtiger freak" I have 2 of the ardennes, the henchel turret and porshe t(amiya's) then dragon's henchel and porche turrets of maybe even "panther freak"

Oh please, you'd have to be "kingtigerfreak4569786" or something like that. Tongue [:P]

edog, I salute you for honoring the workhorse of the panzer force -- the Panzer IV.

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wipw

Member since
January 2003
From: Utah - USA

Posted by wipw on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 4:47 PM

Hey Erick! Quite a collection for sure!! I've got an ESCI 1/72 Jadgpanzer IV, Revell 1/72 IV J, and the "new" DML IV J. Thinking very hard about starting that kit!

Good luck with your motor pool!!

Bill ==========================================================

DML M4A2 Red Army ==========================================================

========================================================== -- There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness". (Author unknown)

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spector822002

Member since
December 2003
From: Southern Maine

In need of WWII German uniform decals

Posted by spector822002 on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 5:45 PM

That would be a fun GB subject for next winter , I would definately be up for that one , I have no panzer 4 in my cab yet , I will not be joining any GB's until the early fall , when the stug comes up , I am going to be wayyyyyyyyyyyy to busy to do anything until then . But anyways think about getting one of those going,(GB) , it looks like you have a nice wide range of choices there , and I seriously doubt you will get them all done by then , although you never know with you folks ! Cool [8D]

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tigerman

Member since
March 2003
From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA

Posted by tigerman on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 10:03 PM

I might be up for a group build in high winter, say after Christmas. After seeing my kit, I just wanted to rip them bags apart. Oh....so many Censored [censored]

wheels though.

Eric

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 2:07 AM

Well guys, I was not expecting as many responses to this thread as I got. Let’s see…

A few thoughts about a group build:

I see no need to make this build a sticky. Anyone interested could bookmark the thread, or add it to their favorites.

If we do get a group going, I would like to try to keep the discussion limited to the actual Pz IV as much as possible. At the same time though, I would love to see any progress pics of Pz IVs, or variants that you guys might be building. I also would be more than happy to answer any questions about variants that I could.

As far as Pz IVs for other group builds, I see no problem with building them across both threads, but I guess that is more up to the other GBs. In any case I would love to help you guys out with any questions, or discussions you might have. Of course you will have to post as many pics as possible though.

As far as a timeline, if there are enough people to get a GB going, I will probably not be able to start for at least 2 weeks, I am thinking more like a month though. There are a few projects that I would like to finish up before I immerse myself in Pz IV insanity. Plus it would give guys who don’t have kits yet time to order what they need. Concerning kits that have already been started, I welcome them. If I don’t go insane, I will probably be working on my Pz’s for quite some time so I don’t see the need for a strict timeline. As far as already completed models, I would love to see any pics you guys have. It will be great for ideas, references and to get the discussion going strong.

I would love to get any references you guys have on the Pz IV, whether online, or printed, please let me know. If we get a group going, I will try to get a web page up with as much info as I can find.

Please, I would love to hear everyone’s comments on the GB guidelines so far.

People Interested in a Pz IV group:
myself
renarts
Foster7155

(please let me know if you want to be added, or taken off the list)

Foster, it is great to see that I am the only one with a pack rat problem concerning the Pz IV. I would love to hear how the TWS engine, and Verlinden interior fit. When I was ordering, they were out of the Dragon F1, and I guess the old Italeri F1/F2/G is OOP. Disapprove [V]

ridleusmc, I would suggest staying away from Tamiya kits with the PE zim. They are pretty pricey for what you get. The PE zim is rather hard to work with, and from what I hear, it does not look all that realistic. Just my humble opinion though.

Lufberym, the only gripe I have about the Italeri kit is the schurzen. The build is a little fussy, but I must admit that for such an old kit, it is quite detailed. I really enjoyed the kit and hope you do too.

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tigerman

Member since
March 2003
From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA

Posted by tigerman on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 9:58 AM

Whoa Edog. Are you talking of doing a build soon? There are so many builds going on and I'm finally realizing I can't do all of them. It would be nice to start this one up when there is a dead time in the group builds. That would maxamize members participation. I can only suggest this. I believe the Stug build ends in October. After that, nothing on the boards. Give it a thought. Smile [:)]

Eric

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renarts

Member since
April 2003
From: Sunny Florida

Posted by renarts on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 10:00 AM

No problems, on all points.
As for scheduling, I will try to fit it in as I can. I think it comes down to using the thread as a check in for mine and others progress. Sort of a Pzr IV repository. I will work on it as I can and finish when its done. I'll do my best to keep to an assigned schedule. But its a hobby not a contract. Wink [;)]

And I'll always be happy to contribute info, resources and help regardless.
As in the Sherman GB, it was very handy as well as interesting to see the different reviews and descriptions of each kit as it was built. All questions were relavent and provided useful resource info in their answers and helped the group as a whole. To be able to see (in the case of posted pics) or read how individuals tackled particular problems and what detailing they did (or not) became a very useful and constructive source of documentation and an enjoyable learning experience. And frankly, it was nice to sit down with everyone and gripe and brag about the progress and finished product.
As resources were posted and traded I know I developed a new interest in allied armor that I previously didn't have as well as a plethora of ideas for future projects. Hopefully we'll get the same out of this.
Good idea edog.

Mike

Mike "Imagination is the dye that colors our lives" Marcus Aurellius A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"

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tigerman

Member since
March 2003
From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA

Posted by tigerman on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 10:14 AM

I think there shouldn't be any crossover group builds. One model per build, otherwise, this Panzer IV build would work for two other builds at the same time. You gotta earn that patch.

Eric

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 20, 2004 8:58 AM

Renarts, you hit exactly the points that I was thinking of. So, it looks like there is only 3 of us interested in a Pz IV group. Personally, I see no problem with such a small group and I’m sure I will be building for a long time, so people can come and go as they like. Any suggestions as to when a “not so official” start date should be?

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