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washing and streaks
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 11:49 AM
i am finishing my jagdtiger and i did the base coat in enamels and tried to do a wash with model masters acrylic's (burnt umber) but when i did it the paint didnt stick too well and didnt look like i did anything at all. did i thin it too much? also, i am trying to create a realistic rust/gunk trickle down off of the spare track holders on the hull sides. what is the best way to do that? airbrush, flatbrush, or thick wash that runs down? please advise. thanks.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 12:29 PM
About what ratio did you thin it down too??? A standard wash is about 90/10 or 80/20.... You probably ended up with a filter thats about 95/5 or less. Also It was discussed on another thread about washes with acrylics.... You should try adding a drop of dish soap to the mix. It retards the tendency to bead up and makes it react like an enamel or oil wash would.(thanks to Ed and others for clearing that up for me)

As far as the track crude. A thicker soupier wash that flows down from the rack out from under the links would work. Then go back and add some dirt and mud streaks. This might be a good time to experiment with pastle washes. Grind em up and mix with wather/soap or paint thinner for more permanant app. They work great for making dirt and grime...

Good luck pal
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 1:33 PM
dish soap? that sounds like an interesting idea, i have never heard of that one. anyone knoe the science behind it helping the acrylics lay?
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  • From: Minnetonka, MN
Posted by ewc2003 on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 1:41 PM
The dish soap in an acrylic wash reduces the surface tension of the water (that's what causes water to bead) and as such lets the wash flow into cracks and crevices....
Matt ------------------------------------------------- "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 1:51 PM
i will give it a try tonight!! thanks guys
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 4:39 PM
seems to be a good idea...Im going to use it on the Jagdpanzer 70 i'm constructing...thanx!!!
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  • From: West Grove, PA
Posted by wildwilliam on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 6:53 PM
hi!
i posted this fun experiment in another post on washes & dish detergent,
but here it is again:
the soap breaks the water's surface tension as Matt said.
if you wat to see what this 'means', try this -
put some water in a glass, and sprinkle some black pepper on the water.
(it should float - that is the surface tension at work)
drag your fingertip across the top of the dish soap bottle
(i am assuming there is a blob of soap goo on yours too!)
touch your finger to the water's surface.
and there you have it!
the water is now 'too thin' to support the pepper flakes.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 1, 2004 3:09 PM
did this 2 nights ago and it worked like a charm. thanks guys!!
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