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Posted by wbill76
on Friday, August 13, 2004 7:31 PM
Originally posted by spector822002
One really has to wonder if weathering is getting overdone , serious most of these vehicles did not make it past thier first battle , and although some did , I think still the weathering is overdone , Blackwell is a genious , but I really have to wonder if he has a sense of reality as well ?! Look at any construction site sometime , now these machines get dirty and used often and hard , and yet some still look fairly clean in comparison , just something to think about .
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Spector,
I guess it depends on where that equipment is being used. We have a lot of highway/road construction going on close by and I get to pass by it ever day. Went out and looked at some of it as close as I could. All metal tracks, steel body construction exposed to dirt/rocks/wind/ etc. and it can get pretty beatup fast depending on the environment (mine's a desert). I agree with you that weathering can be overdone but you also have to keep in mind that most vehicles, especially places like Africa and the eastern front, were not bivouacked in an established area and the crews lived/travelled for long stretches with their vehicles. Combat was not a continuous thing in most areas depending on time of year, enemy activity, etc. so it's conceivable that vehicles could be exposed quite a bit before ever seeing combat.
I lean to the moderation side of weathering unless the kit is going into a dio that calls for muddy/dirty conditions or for things like abandoned/destroyed hulks. Some road dust, collected grime, exhaust/fuel stains, a little mud or rain streaking, that's realistic to me and the effect I usually strive for as opposed to the heavy rusty/battered look that others may prefer. Different schools of thought on this, but there has been a definite decline in the popularity of "clean" vs. "dirty" builds in the hobby over the last few years I think.
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Posted by Anonymous
on Friday, August 13, 2004 8:21 PM
Interesting article and discussion.
That technique is just a little beyond my skills and current airbrush. I am just getting used to preshading. I did find the brief discussion on artistic vs realistic very interesting though. Had to decide what camp I am in or will end up in as my skills improve.
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Posted by Anonymous
on Monday, August 16, 2004 10:30 AM
I'm not sure where I am either, Ed. I painted a Gothic Sci Fi APC (for guess-which game) and preshaded it with black. I then shot the grey basecoat over it, ad the preshading worked pretty well. Unfortunately, when I put the other two cam colors on (green and brown) it covered over most of the preshading, just as Mr. B. predicted it would. Thing is, I don't know if I have the airbrush skill or the patience to do post-shading. Maybe I'll try it on the next kit. I may buy a Leopard, or some other kit I couldn't care less about.
I'll post pics of the Space Marine Razorback APC when I get it a bit further along.
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Good article and tips.
QUOTE: Originally posted by spector822002
One really has to wonder if weathering is getting overdone , serious most of these vehicles did not make it past thier first battle , and although some did , I think still the weathering is overdone , Blackwell is a genious , but I really have to wonder if he has a sense of reality as well ?! Look at any construction site sometime , now these machines get dirty and used often and hard , and yet some still look fairly clean in comparison , just something to think about .
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Good point!
Being a civil engineer, I work with and around heavy equipment all the time and I share your observation.
Also an interesting note on T-34 tanks in a small reference book on WWII tanks said
It was just as well: in intense fighting, a new tank lasted an average of 7 days at the front...
But then again...personal preferences of modelers will still govern.
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