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PE tips please
Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 20, 2004 8:02 PM
Well, back when I used to do models, I never used PE (I don't even think it existed back then). Since I have started up again, I've stayed away from PE just to get my builds have decent enough to warrant the attempt. Now for the Tiger Build, I want to attempt it to keep up with all you prosWink [;)]........ I figure with the Tiger being a larger vehicle, maybe the PE would be easier to use........ So what is the best way to cut the metal parts from the sprues and if anyone knows of any links I can bookmark to, that would be great........

I saw the PE on tediam's jeep and I would go nuts trying PE on something that small to start outTongue [:P]

So any advice any of you guys can give me would be great.
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  • From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA
Posted by tigerman on Saturday, November 20, 2004 8:06 PM
I use a spruecutter to detach mine. Some modelers use a file or sandpaper to sand the rough edges. Hope I helped a bit.

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 Eric 

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 20, 2004 8:07 PM
will the regular small cutters I use for the sprues work alright on PE?
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Posted by gringe88 on Saturday, November 20, 2004 8:13 PM
ive talked around, and from what ive heard, and this is from a very reiable source, the best cutters are the xeron's. they're quote-unqoute "like little scissors." they're extremely fine, and you wouldn't want to use them with anything else, as they would get damaged. But, as for me, i just use wire cutters, or better yet a sharp new knife. cut the pieces so that they're secured, like in the bag they came in. glasses are always a good idea, as the pieces can srping off and hit you in the eye or face. if you've got any other questions, jsut give a buzz....
====================================== -Matt
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 20, 2004 8:18 PM
tankergeoff,

Here's the tools I use, i am no expert by far. Just patient I suppose. Also, if you email me with your address I will send you a UHMW cutting board. tedman111@adelphia.net That and an x-acto knife is what I use to cut PE parts. Also, get a 4-way emory board from Walmart. They are like $1.50. cleans up the parts better than anything. The pliers in the pics are cheap Chinese stuff and work better than anything. I use them to clean up parts and bend delicate parts. Also, buy the best pair of locking tweezers you can find. I got mine from the dentist, free. Don't buy the junk from Ebay, get german or US made tweezers. Once again, I am not an expert, but I have fooled with the PE enough to know that if you ain't got the tools, you might as well not even try. It's just an exercise in frustration.

Hope this helps.

Ted

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 20, 2004 8:21 PM
Oh, and get a roll of blue and purple painters tape. This is from Mo who is an expert. He uses it for holding delicate assemblies (like tool clamps) and also for cutting out parts so that they don't fly across the room into the carpet monster.

Ted
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 20, 2004 8:23 PM
Also, (sorry, I forgot earlier), anneal parts such as belt and round things. I am going to get a set of etchmate rollong things. Now I use tooth picks, turned dowels on my lathe, anything round to form round parts. And the Tiger has bunches.

Ted

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 20, 2004 8:25 PM
wow, everyones great help. thanxBig Smile [:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 21, 2004 1:18 PM
I am no expert by far either, but I used a photo-etched set on one of my smaller scale ships, and it was a pain. I am hoping it will be easier with the tiger kit I just order. I used a exacto knife to cut the pieces away from the sprue and sanded them down.
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  • From: Texas
Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, November 21, 2004 3:17 PM
Depends on the fret. Some frets have barely any clearance between the part and the fret, so sprue cutters or wire cutters have a hard time getting in to make the cut. For those, I have a sharp exacto knife that I don't use for anything else. Make the cut with the fret held done to the sticky side of masking tape, works like a charm. I also have a desk magnifier and use needle nose pliers and modelling tweezers to work with the smaller stuff. And of course, the best tool of all? Knowing when to leave the PE on the fret...most people believe that if it's PE, it has to be better, but this isn't always the case. Wink [;)]
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Posted by Strathcona on Sunday, November 21, 2004 4:49 PM
Thanks! "tankergeoff" , for asking the about PE parts , I have a hard time working with them!
Besides helping "tankergeoff ", you folks have given me more insight , into using PE parts. I normally tend to avoid the PE parts, except for larger parts like engine grills.
Thanks for the great advice! , Happy modelling !
Frank
"PERSEVERANCE"
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 21, 2004 8:29 PM
Iuse a set of small wire cutters I found in a dollar store. In fact I find most of my tools for my modelling at eather a dollar store or Harbor Freight. Finger Nail files work great for clean up also.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 21, 2004 8:40 PM
Feel free to give yourself permission to not use every last piece of PE. I have read a number of skilled modelers express this thought.

Glenn
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 22, 2004 7:16 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by 53ryder

Feel free to give yourself permission to not use every last piece of PE. I have read a number of skilled modelers express this thought.

Glenn


Hear, hear !!!

P/E should be used to enhance detail or correct an error.
Too many P/E parts do nothing but replace an OK or maybe too-thick kit part with a too-thin part -- ie, it is P/E for the sake of P/E.
Try sanding the kit part down, or replace with some Evergreen or card stock.

In many cases you are better off collecting P/E generic chains, flooring, etc, rather than specific sets.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 22, 2004 7:40 PM
well, hopefully i'll do okay. everyone was great help..... i saw a flak 88 with PE parts combined for next-to-nothing and so maybe I'll try it again
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