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  • From: The Green "Mountains", Vermont
Posted by IanIsBored2000 on Tuesday, August 28, 2007 5:15 PM
 crockett wrote:

Doogster...all I can say is ...phenominal! A beautiful replica....congrats

 

Steve

 

A Dunkelgelb debate thread you said you want?  Nah.  We need a thread discussing different ways to say Doog, Crocketts got a good start.

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Posted by Richard_Craig on Tuesday, August 28, 2007 6:05 PM

Hey Doog ..this has got to be one of the nicest Hetzers I've seen ...Love the heavy weathering you've done a great job ...I did notice 2 things and in no way do they take away from the awesome build ,but I thought you'd like to know .. I built this kit a few years ago and during my research I could not find one early hetzer that was delivered to an SS unit, I mention that because the figure is dressed in an SS camo uniform ...the second is if you plan on leaving the roof off like that ..shouldn't the bolts be removed from around the edges? Just something to think about..

Like I said this is the best hetzer I've seen so far and congrats all around.

Rick

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Posted by the doog on Tuesday, August 28, 2007 6:44 PM
 Richard_Craig wrote:

Hey Doog ..this has got to be one of the nicest Hetzers I've seen ...Love the heavy weathering you've done a great job ...I did notice 2 things and in no way do they take away from the awesome build ,but I thought you'd like to know .. I built this kit a few years ago and during my research I could not find one early hetzer that was delivered to an SS unit, I mention that because the figure is dressed in an SS camo uniform ...the second is if you plan on leaving the roof off like that ..shouldn't the bolts be removed from around the edges? Just something to think about..

Like I said this is the best hetzer I've seen so far and congrats all around.

Rick

Thanks for the reply and opinion, Rich...the SS camo uniform is correct. The 8th SS Cavalry Division "Florian Geyer" was issued a small number of Hetzers in September of '44. In all, a total of 10 SS mostly-pzgrenadier divisions were issued with up to 200 Hetzers til the end of the war.

I deliberately left the markings vague, as I figured that a radio command vehicle might not want to "advertise" itself; many photos I've seen of Hetzers are mostly devoid of markings beyond the Balkenkreuz.

Your observation of the roof being removed is well-considered, however I did not intend the seperation to be literal; I only have displayed it in this unusual way so as to show off the wealth of detailing in the interior--here's a few shots in case you missed that post:

 

I appreciate your input! And the compliment! Big Smile [:D]

Ian...you're making me nervous! Laugh [(-D] Actually, my girlfriend has a hundred different ways to say "doog"-some of which are entirely unsuited for this site! LOL!Laugh [(-D]

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Posted by Richard_Craig on Tuesday, August 28, 2007 7:19 PM

  I do agree the SS got hetzers ..it's  the early type I couldn't find any references too, the 8 SS got their Hetzers on the 29th of August 44.. There were 283 built before that date ..but if you say so ...I can live with that..Make a Toast [#toast]

As for the roof I get the point ..thats cool with me .

Your interior looks awesome as well ..a build to be proud of sir !

Rick

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  • From: t.r.f. mn.
Posted by detailfreak on Tuesday, August 28, 2007 8:18 PM
ok doog there is one term that comes to my mind and that is;BOSS.no more needs to be said.thank you for sharing.greg

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Posted by IanIsBored2000 on Tuesday, August 28, 2007 8:30 PM
I don't doubt it fr a second! Doog is so much more amusing than Ian.  And thank god you had the courtesy to leave some of those "other" names out of the post. Sign - Off Topic!! [#offtopic] Ugh, first day of tenth grade tomorow....algebra II trigonometry, Experimental Biology, computer applicatios, American Experience, and Spanish III tomorow...that's rough.  Okay back to the hetzer now, I promise!
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Posted by Carves on Tuesday, August 28, 2007 9:28 PM

I'm speechless ...... Wow!! [wow]

I'm speechless ...... Thumbs Up [tup]

I'm speechless ...... Bow [bow]

I'm speechless ...... Shock [:O]

.... somebody, anybody, help find the correct word please ....

---
Ben

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Posted by the doog on Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:55 PM

Carves, and Greg; thank you for the kind compliments! I appreciate it, truly!

OK, wbill76....are ya out there?...I redid the antenna with another guitar string; now the diameters are the same! GOOD CALL!

Here's some shots!:

...and here's a comparison with the old antenna rod...

 

You can definitely see the difference/similarity now! Big Smile [:D]Yeah!! [yeah]

To be honest, that's one thing that bugged me...thanks again for the "heads up"--I just became a better modeler! Thumbs Up [tup]

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  • From: Carmel, CA
Posted by bondoman on Wednesday, August 29, 2007 12:28 AM

I can't help but think, as I look at the model, that you show that less is more. It's a Hetzer, for god's sake, not a (insert 640 part trumpeter kit here, not that there's anything wrong with that and I'm sure you could knock one down) but care is time and every little piece of your 38 shows attention to detail. One of my favorite Tamiya 1:35's that I saw people build was the Pak 37, which always seemed to be a deal where if you build a jewel, it outshines alot of other things.

I paint icons for a religious vocation. A good trick with the eyes is to do the cornea which is the whole deal you see inside the eyelids, in a lightened skin tone, do the iris in the color of the subject which in your case is blue as a dot that spans top to bottom but not side to side, and then put three white dots- one on each side of the iris and one in the middle. Its not right but it looks right.

Keep the critters coming.

 

 

 

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  • From: The Buckeye State
Posted by Panther 44 on Wednesday, August 29, 2007 7:10 AM
 the doog wrote:
I just became a better modeler! Thumbs Up [tup]

 Well, that does it. I might as well take my kits and make a sacrifice to the fire gods. There's no hope left for me.

                                                                                                 Joe Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]

Just remember, ignorance is no excuse for the law. - Moe
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  • From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posted by zokissima on Wednesday, August 29, 2007 7:16 AM
Wow, this is really an overwhelming piece of work. There is so much to look at. Every single pic I looked at gave me an idea as to what to try on my own models. Definitely inspiring. I'm very curious and eager for you to release that painting and weathering document. It will be a pleasure to read, just as it was a pleasure to look at the finished work.
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Posted by wbill76 on Wednesday, August 29, 2007 9:57 AM
Very sharp doog, glad it helped. Thumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by the doog on Wednesday, August 29, 2007 10:33 AM
 bondoman wrote:

I can't help but think, as I look at the model, that you show that less is more. It's a Hetzer, for god's sake, not a (insert 640 part trumpeter kit here, not that there's anything wrong with that and I'm sure you could knock one down) but care is time and every little piece of your 38 shows attention to detail. One of my favorite Tamiya 1:35's that I saw people build was the Pak 37, which always seemed to be a deal where if you build a jewel, it outshines alot of other things.

I paint icons for a religious vocation. A good trick with the eyes is to do the cornea which is the whole deal you see inside the eyelids, in a lightened skin tone, do the iris in the color of the subject which in your case is blue as a dot that spans top to bottom but not side to side, and then put three white dots- one on each side of the iris and one in the middle. Its not right but it looks right.

Keep the critters coming.

 

 

 

bondoman, once again I must thank a fellow modeler for reminding me of a bone-headed mistake!

I just realized, after reading your post, that I FORGOT to paint in the pupils! I MEANT to do it, but apparently just overlooked it! Confused [%-)] DUUUUH!!!

I'll get right to it! Thanks for your sharp eyes! Bow [bow] And thank you for your very kind compliments!

And you too, zokissima! Smile [:)]

Joe! DON'T SACRFICE YOUR MODELS! SEND THEM TO ME!!! LOL!!!Laugh [(-D]

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  • From: The Buckeye State
Posted by Panther 44 on Wednesday, August 29, 2007 3:32 PM
 the doog wrote:

Joe! DON'T SACRFICE YOUR MODELS! SEND THEM TO ME!!! LOL!!!Laugh [(-D]

 First the fatal wound, and now for the salt.Boohoo [BH]Boohoo [BH]

 Will admit they would be in better hands Cool [8D]

                                                                                           Joe Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]

Just remember, ignorance is no excuse for the law. - Moe
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  • From: Katy, TX
Posted by jthurston on Wednesday, August 29, 2007 4:28 PM

I don't know too much about the categories for IPMS entries (it's been many years), but I personally think that it looks best on the base. If it were mine (if it were mine it wouldn't look nearly this good Thumbs Up [tup]) I'd enter it as a dio if I had to. Another thing to think about it the way you've got your mud and dirt blending so well with the weathering on the running gear. It's not something that just anyone can do, and it's not a given - so I'd want to show it off on the contest table.

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  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by ajlafleche on Thursday, August 30, 2007 8:13 AM

Great looking Hetzer.

Now, to the category...It will be the head judge's call, but if that were me, I'd say this is NOT a diorama. There really is no story being told and the top has been removed and displayed separately (nice touch and technique with that.) Displaying it off the base with the top removed would look odd. There is an open top or with interior class listed on the flyer. That's where I'd place it and challenge it's being placed in the dio class. Any judge worth his salt is able to judge the model and not the "junk" next to it.

At the Nationals in VA Beach in 02, there was a Stug with 2 or 3 guys cranking the engine over and that remained in the regular armor category.

Remember, if the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy.

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Posted by the doog on Thursday, August 30, 2007 9:39 AM
 ajlafleche wrote:

Great looking Hetzer.

Now, to the category...It will be the head judge's call, but if that were me, I'd say this is NOT a diorama. There really is no story being told and the top has been removed and displayed separately (nice touch and technique with that.) Displaying it off the base with the top removed would look odd. There is an open top or with interior class listed on the flyer. That's where I'd place it and challenge it's being placed in the dio class. Any judge worth his salt is able to judge the model and not the "junk" next to it.

At the Nationals in VA Beach in 02, there was a Stug with 2 or 3 guys cranking the engine over and that remained in the regular armor category.

Sage advice, aj! I think I'll make an inquiry with the club before the contest; they meet at the LHS on thursdays. I'd like to display it AS IS, but I don't want to cause any rifts between myself and guys who might get irate that it beat their model just because it had an elaborate base...

Interesting about that StuG! Thanks for the advice and info!  

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  • From: beacon falls , Ct.
Posted by treadwell on Friday, August 31, 2007 6:23 PM

outstanding build,doogBig Smile [:D]--great tutorial on the weathering and congrats BIG TIME on getting published-- you deserve it man!!Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]-- sorry this post is a little late , i have been 'away'-- treadCool [8D]--- p.s. get a haircut, hippie-- lolLaugh [(-D]-

   

 

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Posted by the doog on Saturday, September 1, 2007 10:27 PM
 treadwell wrote:

outstanding build,doogBig Smile [:D]--great tutorial on the weathering and congrats BIG TIME on getting published-- you deserve it man!!Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]-- sorry this post is a little late , i have been 'away'-- treadCool [8D]--- p.s. get a haircut, hippie-- lolLaugh [(-D]-

Hey Treadwell! Cool Scooter!

Thanks for the compliments; glad you enjoyed the tutorial!

Nice to see another longhair on this site! Tongue [:P] Been away huh? Bet ya got some bugs in your teeth! Big Smile [:D] I have a '96 Custom Softtail, raked, with the throne seat and S&S carb, stroked and bored by Minneapolis Custom Cycle--but it's over in Europe for the last three years! Boohoo [BH]( I use it in my profession over there) I mostly ride my dual sport around up here in New York with my girlfriend on hers. Nothing like the open road huh?!Cool [8D]Yeah!! [yeah]

Thanks for the Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]!!!! Keep it on two wheels! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

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  • From: Rochester NY
Posted by mg42gunner on Sunday, September 2, 2007 12:01 PM
Wow! Thats a great looking hetzer! I have never liked that tank untill I saw yours, now I have to build one! Ive been away for about a week and a half now, so I didnt get a chance to comment on your tank, but it looks awesome. I really like how you were able to get the 'built up' look to your weathering, you can see dust, mud, then further down scratches and chips. Fantastic looking. Also the removable roof is great, you cant cover up that beautiful interior! All the detail is fantastic on that tank, great great job.
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Posted by the doog on Sunday, September 2, 2007 3:13 PM

 mg42gunner wrote:
Wow! Thats a great looking hetzer! I have never liked that tank untill I saw yours, now I have to build one! Ive been away for about a week and a half now, so I didnt get a chance to comment on your tank, but it looks awesome. I really like how you were able to get the 'built up' look to your weathering, you can see dust, mud, then further down scratches and chips. Fantastic looking. Also the removable roof is great, you cant cover up that beautiful interior! All the detail is fantastic on that tank, great great job.
Thanks, MG42...I felt the same way; never liked the Hetzer--until now!Whistling [:-^]Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

I think there was something Fruedian in my building of this tank and all the detail I put into it! (Gosh, I wonder what I could do with an airplane?!?!??? )Shock [:O]Laugh [(-D]

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