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"The Hunters GB" (2/1/08 to 6/1/08)

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  • Member since
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  • From: Eagle River, WI
Posted by PANZERJAGER on Thursday, January 31, 2008 9:49 PM

kinda sorta 38(t)...

if ya google "waffetrager" images, there are actualy a lot of pics on line.

i have pics showing 38(t) road wheels and no returne rollers, and smaller all steel road wheels with returne rollers.

if youre thinking about using 38(t) or hetzer tracks, i can check the stuff in my stash and get back to you tomorrow.

PANZERJEAGER 

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  • From: LaValle, Wisconsin
Posted by Hermesminiatures on Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:13 PM

The Krupp/Steyr Waffentrager is based on the RSO chassis, not the Panzer 38(t). It uses some late Hetzer suspension components or sometimes the RSO suspension with different wheels.

The steel-rimmed road wheels are unique Waffentrager components and are not 38(t) parts.

There were different types of Waffentrager, and the only one that used 38(t) wheels (they are actually late Hetzer wheels, there is a difference), is the 128mm version with the sharply sloped gun shield and perforated muzzle brake (the gun from the MAUS tank).

The vehicle represented in the Alan kit mounts an 88 and has only tracks and idlers from the 38(t). You'll have to use the kit wheels and sprockets.

Jonathan

For every modeling technique that works, I have three that don't.

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Posted by fantacmet on Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:15 PM
Ok ok ok, count me in with the M18 Hellcat by Academy, you twisted my leg and held a gun to my head.  I was stupid enough not to pull my own in my own defense(perhaps because I didn't want to?  LOL) so I'm in.  And I wanted to superdetail it.  Oh well.  I wonder if there are friuls for this thing.

    

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:28 PM

Hi all,

Been off the boards the last few days with this and that, and my Jap. Type 74 is still undergoing weathering (looking good, if a bit more field-used than I'd intended, what with it being a peacetime tank). I have an M18 in the mail from Hong Kong, and I just scored a late-tool Tamiya StuG III Ausf. G from the same part of the world that I know Cavalier make zim for. No matter what I build, I won't be able to order zim until March, the company is pretty much at a standstill until the boss gets back from China.

So I'm thinking of making a start on the Trumpeter Type 89 TD, now I've got the Chinese cammo colours tied down, and I'll keep the Italeri Jagdpanzer IV L/70 in mind if there are spare hours in a few months time... (That reminds me, I need to order Academy's PzKfw IV track sets and Tamiya's on-vehicle accessories...)

It's Friday February 1st down here in Australia... Don't worry, Tigerman, I'm not going to steal your thunder and say: "Gentlemen, start your (turbocharged 20-litre V-12 tank) engines!"

I'll be out with my fave band tonight and *maybe* helping out a ladyfriend tomorrow, but I'll be sure to glue something before the weekend is over.

Cheers,

TB379

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Posted by tigerman on Thursday, January 31, 2008 11:43 PM

It's all good T-bolt!

Since I'm turning in, it should be past midnight in the EST USA. So gentlemen, "ON YOUR MARK, GET SET, GLUE!"

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 Eric 

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Posted by PANZERJAGER on Friday, February 1, 2008 5:42 AM

ok TIGERMAN,

count me in with this one!!!!!

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PANZERJEAGER 

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  • From: Perth, Western Australia
Posted by madmike on Friday, February 1, 2008 5:57 AM

It is the eve of the 1st here in West Australia. Got out the kit and glued one part on just to start on "the day"

I still have to get an ancient Hasegawa MiG-17PF finished before the 23rd, so it is going to be a busy time Smile [:)]

Cheers

Mike 

"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." - Galileo Galilei
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Posted by tigerman on Friday, February 1, 2008 6:32 AM
 PANZERJEAGER wrote:

ok TIGERMAN,

count me in with this one!!!!!

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PANZERJEAGER 

That is where my schurzen came from, the A-0. My kit also includes the shorter 75. I think the kits have a lot of similar parts, except for the aluminum barrel in my Johann Huber.

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 Eric 

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Posted by ygmodeler4 on Friday, February 1, 2008 8:21 AM
 Hermesminiatures wrote:

The Krupp/Steyr Waffentrager is based on the RSO chassis, not the Panzer 38(t). It uses some late Hetzer suspension components or sometimes the RSO suspension with different wheels.

The steel-rimmed road wheels are unique Waffentrager components and are not 38(t) parts.

There were different types of Waffentrager, and the only one that used 38(t) wheels (they are actually late Hetzer wheels, there is a difference), is the 128mm version with the sharply sloped gun shield and perforated muzzle brake (the gun from the MAUS tank).

The vehicle represented in the Alan kit mounts an 88 and has only tracks and idlers from the 38(t). You'll have to use the kit wheels and sprockets.

Thanks Hermes, so the Alan kit has the 38(t) idler, but different road wheels and sprockets....but you said the tracks were 38(t) also, so does that mean I could buy some AM tracks for the 38(t) and replace those with the kit tracks?

-Josiah

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Posted by bufflehead on Friday, February 1, 2008 10:45 AM

DARN!!  I tried, I tried to stay up to midnight and start my kit....but sleep and this Censored [censored] lingering cold got the better of me!!Dead [xx(]  I won't be able to start until I get home tonight.  At least the Pz IV G for the Winter Warriors GB is finally assembled.  I won't start painting that until tomorrow, so I can start the Jagd this evening....yippeee!!

To schurzen or not to schurzen, that is the question......

Ernest

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  • From: Coastal Maine
Posted by dupes on Friday, February 1, 2008 10:52 AM

Alright...I've had enough of this "work" crap. I'm outta here...gotta run into town for a minute (might be a pile of kits at the post office!) then I'm home to eat some lunch and start in on the ISU-152! Ha ahaaaa! Dinner [dinner]

Some days it pays to be the Vice President. Wink [;)]

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  • From: Reno, NV
Posted by espins1 on Friday, February 1, 2008 11:28 AM
 dupes wrote:

Alright...I've had enough of this "work" crap. I'm outta here...gotta run into town for a minute (might be a pile of kits at the post office!) then I'm home to eat some lunch and start in on the ISU-152! Ha ahaaaa! Dinner [dinner]

Some days it pays to be the Vice President. Wink [;)]

Awesome!  Lucky Censored [censored] Laugh [(-D] 

I've got my research materials with me at work to pour over during lunch.  Although I pretty much know the StuG III Ausf. G inside and out.  Propeller [8-]

The StuG III Ausf. G hits the bench this weekend.  I'll be building it along with my PzKpfw II Ausf. F and PzKpfw 38(t) for the Desert and Winter Warriors builds.  Cool [8D]

Scott Espin - IPMS Reno High Rollers  Geeked My Reviews 

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Posted by tigerman on Friday, February 1, 2008 11:36 AM
 bufflehead wrote:

To schurzen or not to schurzen, that is the question......

After looking at those tiny, tiny bolts and finding nothing other than Hermes photo, I'm going sans schurzen. 

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 Eric 

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Posted by tigerman on Friday, February 1, 2008 7:11 PM
Pieces are getting glued, but already I'm getting overwhelmed with cleanup. It seems each piece has 3-4 connectors. Yuck. The hull is already overcomplicated and requires putty. I guess this is the price we pay for detail. Evil [}:)]

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 Eric 

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  • From: Nanaimo, BC, Canada
Posted by Brews on Friday, February 1, 2008 8:33 PM

I've sprayed a coat of Testors Afrika Korps Yellow brown on the PzJg I.

The hull is 2.5cm wide and 6cm long.

 

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  • From: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Posted by T-rex on Friday, February 1, 2008 8:45 PM

Ha ah! I found tamiya's Hezert and two more, one made from a unknow company and another from edward for 89$ there must be lots of PE parts in that one, too hard for me.

I'll make a diffrent camo scheme.

Working on: Trumpeter SU-152 (1/35) Trumpeter E-10 (1/35) Heller Somua (1/35)

"The world is your enemy, prince of a thousand enemy. And when they'll find you, they will kill you... but they will have to catch you first ''

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  • From: LaValle, Wisconsin
Posted by Hermesminiatures on Friday, February 1, 2008 11:15 PM
 ygmodeler4 wrote:
 Hermesminiatures wrote:

The Krupp/Steyr Waffentrager is based on the RSO chassis, not the Panzer 38(t). It uses some late Hetzer suspension components or sometimes the RSO suspension with different wheels.

The steel-rimmed road wheels are unique Waffentrager components and are not 38(t) parts.

There were different types of Waffentrager, and the only one that used 38(t) wheels (they are actually late Hetzer wheels, there is a difference), is the 128mm version with the sharply sloped gun shield and perforated muzzle brake (the gun from the MAUS tank).

The vehicle represented in the Alan kit mounts an 88 and has only tracks and idlers from the 38(t). You'll have to use the kit wheels and sprockets.

Thanks Hermes, so the Alan kit has the 38(t) idler, but different road wheels and sprockets....but you said the tracks were 38(t) also, so does that mean I could buy some AM tracks for the 38(t) and replace those with the kit tracks?

Right, late Hetzer tracks should be right. Earlier 38(t) tracks won't do becuase they are a different pattern (...if you want to be picky.)

I (obviously) didn't kill myself skiing (despite playing around on the expert runs and the super park all day...) so I should be able to spend most of tomorrow on the Jagdpanzer. I hope to do the basic construction, Fruils, and fenders...gotta hustle to be done for that show on March 1!

Jonathan

For every modeling technique that works, I have three that don't.

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Posted by fantacmet on Friday, February 1, 2008 11:48 PM
WEll I started on mine a little bit earlier.  Already have the interior done for the main hull minus 4 parts(the seats) which will be painted a different color then the rest of it.

    

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  • From: Coastal Maine
Posted by dupes on Saturday, February 2, 2008 8:33 AM

So yesterday ended up being a pretty productive day, got all prepped for some marathon modeling - had a half gallon of D+D coffee Propeller [8-] and the Ipod packed with a bunch of heavy metal Banged Head [banghead] for building some heavy metal. Started out like so:

and ended the night like so:

overall, construction has gone waaaaay better than I thought it would (for a Zvezda kit, anyway Wink [;)]). All of the roadwheels lined up without too much trouble, and the majority of the parts have fit pretty well...until I got to sprue C. Apparently the two halves of the mold didn't quite match up, EVERY single part has large mold lines, and flash everywhere. So there's going to be a bit of cleanup time there. Hopefully it won't take tooooo long, hope to have construction done (and a primer coat?) tonight! Big Smile [:D]

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  • From: N. Georgia
Posted by Jester75 on Saturday, February 2, 2008 8:51 AM

Holy smokes Dupes, now thats some marathon modeling!! I spent about 2 1/2 hours last night working on my Jagdpanzer and all I finished was the rear panel, and its not all the way done.

I have a question for all of you Pz IV experts out there. My Eduard PE set come with some straps, handles and a small "tray" with lightening holes in it for the wooden jack block. In my mind, this tray should be on the bottom of the block when it is installed in its final position but looking the the instructions, it appears to be on the top. Which place is correct??

If you need pics, I can post them. Thanks!

Eric

 

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Posted by Hermesminiatures on Saturday, February 2, 2008 9:06 AM
Top is correct...doesn't make much sense but it's right.

Jonathan

For every modeling technique that works, I have three that don't.

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Posted by Jester75 on Saturday, February 2, 2008 9:08 AM
Cool, thanks alot Hermes!

Eric

 

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Posted by Brews on Saturday, February 2, 2008 9:30 AM
 dupes wrote:

So yesterday ended up being a pretty productive day, got all prepped for some marathon modeling - had a half gallon of D+D coffee Propeller [8-] and the Ipod packed with a bunch of heavy metal Banged Head [banghead] for building some heavy metal. and ended the night like so:

Oooh, I'd still like to finish before you :)

I assembled the lower hull bits , superglued the idler and drive wheels, painted the tyres, resprayed Afrika Korps Brown (1942) as well as a bit of interior buff. I sprayed the brown over the buff, by the way. Logically, I should have sprayed the buff, then oversprayed with Panzer Grey, then oversprayed with AKB, but I wanted to have a lighter contrasting interior. The interior detail, by the way, isn't too bad. It includes a driver's seat, a transmission and drive shaft, as well as an engine compartment firewall. The floor has no treadplate, and I'm not going to indulge in PE for this, although I MIGHT drop in something ...

Anyway, after I finished up for the night, I realised that I maybe should have painted tyres on the idler wheel. I'd assumed that this would be steel-rimmed.

sigh.

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Posted by tigerman on Saturday, February 2, 2008 9:37 AM

Man, that is going to be tiny Brews. be sure to take pics under a magnifying-glass. Laugh [(-D]

Fantastic progress so far Dupes. It looks the part for sure. Nice weld seams.

Eric, don't feel alone, I got about as much done as you, on almost the same area. 

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 Eric 

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  • From: Gothenburg
Posted by JohanT on Saturday, February 2, 2008 10:02 AM

The plan is to build an Egyptian SU-100, turret number 1, captured by the Brittish 3'd Para at Pord Said early November 1956.
Hopefully I can get some very basic detail into the drivers area so that the Drivers and Gunners hatch can be left open.
The wagon has a Commanders cuppola that is not fully supported in Dragons # 6359, it seems as if a disc is missing from the sprues but I can scratch something.
The cuppola and the hatches are there but the cuppola does not fit to the casemate.
I might scratch off the small handles and replace them with wire.

The "goodies"



Any pictures of SU-100 interiors are greatly appreciated Tongue [:P]

Very Best Regards
Johan

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Posted by ygmodeler4 on Saturday, February 2, 2008 10:42 AM

Thanks again Hermes,,,, I am very appreciative

 On another note, great looking builds guys.

-Josiah

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Posted by tigerman on Saturday, February 2, 2008 10:49 AM

Johan, loving all that PE. Grateful I don't have to assemble it. LOL

Wish I could build today, but Super Bowl roadtrip with my homies.  Back to the bench probably Tuesday. 

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 Eric 

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Posted by Brews on Saturday, February 2, 2008 11:40 AM

Oooh! Look what I found!

Wartime pics

Museum Specimen

11 kill rings!?

I'm almost sorry I'm making mine as a DAK vehicle :)

 

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Posted by tigerman on Saturday, February 2, 2008 11:51 AM
 Brews wrote:

Oooh! Look what I found!

Wartime pics

Museum Specimen

11 kill rings!?

I'm almost sorry I'm making mine as a DAK vehicle :)

 

That's how I'd want to do one. 

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 Eric 

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Posted by Brews on Saturday, February 2, 2008 12:13 PM
 tigerman wrote:

That's how I'd want to do one. 

That's a tad ambiguous :)

You'd make one outside Moscow, with 11 kills, or as DAK? 

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